Are all designers complete fucking flaky deadbeats? - GoFuckYourself.com

jojojo · 05-11-2004, 11:23 AM

How come every time I hire a designer they fucking flake out and I never fucking hear from them again?

WHAT THE FUCK IS UP WITH THAT?

WHY CAN'T ANY OF THESE FUCKS EVER ACT PROFESSIONAL AND NOT WASTE MY TIME?

fuck I guess I need a new designer that can do a reality tour in exchange for SEO services.

I still have some on file but of course the guy who did the best work is the one that flaked out. No emails for weeks.

AMADude · 05-11-2004, 11:35 AM

Try this guy.....

www.sexymojo.com

jojojo · 05-11-2004, 11:37 AM

thanks I will talk to him...

eroswebmaster · 05-11-2004, 11:41 AM

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Originally posted by AMADude
Try this guy.....

www.sexymojo.com

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 05-11-2004, 11:48 AM

"How come every time I hire a designer they fucking flake out and I never fucking hear from them again?"

Ya probably didnt pay em enough for the effort.
I give cheap skates the cold shoulder as a policy.

CuriousToyBoy2 · 05-11-2004, 11:54 AM

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Originally posted by AlienQ
"How come every time I hire a designer they fucking flake out and I never fucking hear from them again?"
Ya probably didnt pay em enough for the effort. I give cheap skates the cold shoulder as a policy.

If they really did the wrong thing by you and you were not actually expecting miracles performed overnight with nothing while paying peanuts, how about sharing whom we should steer clear of so they have the opportunity to give their side of the story.

And there is ALWAYS 2 sides to every story.

iFliPcEss · 05-11-2004, 11:56 AM

why don't you try a dedicated designer...

please see sig

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 05-11-2004, 12:14 PM

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Originally posted by CuriousToyBoy
If they really did the wrong thing by you and you were not actually expecting miracles performed overnight with nothing while paying peanuts, how about sharing whom we should steer clear of so they have the opportunity to give their side of the story.

And there is ALWAYS 2 sides to every story.

If you really want to know the rules of engagement...

I do not open photoshop for 20 bucks.
Anything I do is immediatly at the least 1k in services.
I've heard every story/offer in the book, but it comes down to money.
If they do not have it I do not really bother. Clients with money do not mind the costs they mind the time of delivery more than anything else.

So really to cut the shit, the 1K fence is in place from con artists and shitsters with a "Plan".

I will admit I give slack for reputable companies to gain there business, what designer does not do that? We all want "The killer" client. However in an industry full of two bit hustlers and fly by nights ya goto put in place policies.

Designers in the busines if they are good control the vertical and the horizontal and over the years I do not understand why designers get dragged through the mud, especially by broke fucks that go out of there way to slam a designer for somthing or other in services that were on a cheap skate budget to begin with.

Always 2 sides to every story some designers are fuck faces have no doubts but the reality is most non design folks expect the world for 5 cents.

There are only a few reliable designers that operate professionally with a staying power and pro attitude, and a pro process, they can be found on my own design site. I do not mind giving business away if I can't take it, its no sweat off my shoulders.

Sarah_Jayne · 05-11-2004, 12:18 PM

no. Some design companies are very professional and take pride in being that way. You do get what you pay for and that that is reflected in more than just the actual design.

stevecore · 05-11-2004, 12:24 PM

flaky deadbeats are normally caused by you giving them money (normally half up front). think about if you paid half up front for anything else, do you think you would get the prompt service you expect?

Newton - XXXAmigoz · 05-11-2004, 12:24 PM

If you have a problem, name them and let them respond to defend themselves rather than making gross generalisations of the designers as a whole, that does nobody any good.

Good luck finding a designer

AkiraSS · 05-11-2004, 12:36 PM

If I understand the thread properly, you hired a designer in exchange for SEO services, no money involved?
SEO is a risky business and takes 4-5 months to see results and you expect your designer to respond immediately?

Why bash people if you don't post proof or at least point fingers...

Anyway, we don't trade services but we're reliable as hell. Check out our portfolio if you're interested in doing business:
http://www.byotdesignstudio.com

jojojo · 05-11-2004, 12:38 PM

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There are only a few reliable designers that operate professionally with a staying power and pro attitude

you hit the nail on the head 'a few'

Im not naming him just yet. Maybe he will see these posts or decide to answer and email or ICQ msg sometime this century.

Rictor · 05-11-2004, 12:39 PM

Most designers and content providers are flaky. Hell most people in this business in general are flaky if they work for themselves and not out of an office. Not enough people treat this like a business.

DreamCumTrue · 05-11-2004, 12:39 PM

Yes. I have never had a designer follow up on anything even if I got them to finish their work in the first place.

My fucking profile site still says Pickapal instead of Peekapal.

Fuckin a.

jojojo · 05-11-2004, 12:39 PM

I will name the first deadbeat I dealt with:

http://www.groovyadultdesign.com/

this guy we DID pay cash and he delivered 25% of the work then fucked off forever. His site is still up but not updated since last year.

jojojo · 05-11-2004, 12:41 PM

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SEO is a risky business and takes 4-5 months to see results and you expect your designer to respond immediately?

because he said 'great sounds good I'll start on it now and have it ready in about 6 days'

I said ok what site do you want SEO'd? He said 'I dunno yet, let me do your design first'

and again my original question was are all designers blah blah and the reply I am getting is .... MOST are

crockett · 05-11-2004, 12:42 PM

it's called designer's block.. which is why I've never started a design site. I can't ever finish my own site designs let alone anyone else's.

I give two

for designers that can finish something and be happy enough with it.. Myself I always want to change something or delete it because I'm not happy with it.

eroswebmaster · 05-11-2004, 12:45 PM

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Originally posted by stevecore
flaky deadbeats are normally caused by you giving them money (normally half up front). think about if you paid half up front for anything else, do you think you would get the prompt service you expect?

I've instituted the half up front deposit to get rid of the flakes on the other end.

I actually had a customer trying to put in an order the other day who asked me...."If I put in this order does that mean I have to follow through?"

stevecore · 05-11-2004, 12:55 PM

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Originally posted by eroswebmaster
I've instituted the half up front deposit to get rid of the flakes on the other end.

I actually had a customer trying to put in an order the other day who asked me...."If I put in this order does that mean I have to follow through?"

LOL, oh god. just reinforces the fact why i only work with people in the industry i know.

AkiraSS · 05-11-2004, 12:58 PM

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Originally posted by jojojo
I will name the first deadbeat I dealt with:

http://www.groovyadultdesign.com/

this guy we DID pay cash and he delivered 25% of the work then fucked off forever. His site is still up but not updated since last year.

jojojo, I know you from the ARS board, you're good people. Blackjack here,
contact me on icq - 17630227

shima · 05-11-2004, 01:03 PM

Shit, I gotta raise my prices, so I won't look like a deadbeat.

Sorry to hear that man, who else did fuck you up like this?

harvey · 05-11-2004, 01:27 PM

well, not everybody is the same, same as no all customers are the same, no all deals are the same and so on. For one, you can see what people says about us at http://www.fdsign.com/design/news.html pretty far from being flaky or whatever

Not to spam our services since we really cannot work for SEO, just to show you your question "Are all designers complete fucking flaky deadbeats?" has an answer and it's a big "NO!". In my experience, I know more bad stories in the customer side than the designer side, you just check the board.

And btw, there are several design firms or individuals I'm sure they're really straight, such as http://sexymojo.com, http://webinc.com, http://dickmansdesign.com, http://ialien.com and many more, sorry if I forgot any, I'm sure there are plenty more than those. I never heard a bad word against them, and I feel like I never will

okny · 05-11-2004, 01:28 PM

Deal with trusted companies and you wont have that problem again...

Amp · 05-11-2004, 01:33 PM

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Originally posted by stevecore
flaky deadbeats are normally caused by you giving them money (normally half up front). think about if you paid half up front for anything else, do you think you would get the prompt service you expect?

I find that line of reasoning to be very odd. Virtually EVERYTHING i want, I pay for IN FULL up front. None of this half crap, or as the case seems to be with designers, NONE up front.

Tell me what else you can buy and evaluate and decide if you want it or not, with NOTHING up front.

The answer is nothing. Designers should be no exception. You aren't buying a fucking package wrapped in plastic, and if you are, then it's a one time sale. Here's the price, pay it or go the fuck away. However usually, in the case of hiring a designer, you are buying their SERVICES. Not a package.

Would an architect come and draw up plans to remodel your house for nothing? So you could decide after he did his work whether or not you want to pay him?

I don't think so.

Give designers their due. Pay the fucking fees, and you get the fucking work. Simple. Reality. Deal with it.

Basic_man · 05-11-2004, 01:34 PM

I don't waste the time of any body !

05-11-2004, 11:23 AM	#1
jojojo Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 2,318	Are all designers complete fucking flaky deadbeats? How come every time I hire a designer they fucking flake out and I never fucking hear from them again? WHAT THE FUCK IS UP WITH THAT? WHY CAN'T ANY OF THESE FUCKS EVER ACT PROFESSIONAL AND NOT WASTE MY TIME? fuck I guess I need a new designer that can do a reality tour in exchange for SEO services. I still have some on file but of course the guy who did the best work is the one that flaked out. No emails for weeks. __________________ Learn SEO - make $$ residually - icq me 333485092

05-11-2004, 11:35 AM	#2
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iFliPcEss Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 3,087	why don't you try a dedicated designer... please see sig

05-11-2004, 12:18 PM	#9
Sarah_Jayne Now with more Jayne Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 40,077	no. Some design companies are very professional and take pride in being that way. You do get what you pay for and that that is reflected in more than just the actual design.

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stevecore Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 6,130	flaky deadbeats are normally caused by you giving them money (normally half up front). think about if you paid half up front for anything else, do you think you would get the prompt service you expect?

05-11-2004, 12:36 PM	#12
AkiraSS Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: ICQ: 17630227 Posts: 2,988	If I understand the thread properly, you hired a designer in exchange for SEO services, no money involved? SEO is a risky business and takes 4-5 months to see results and you expect your designer to respond immediately? Why bash people if you don't post proof or at least point fingers... Anyway, we don't trade services but we're reliable as hell. Check out our portfolio if you're interested in doing business: http://www.byotdesignstudio.com

05-11-2004, 12:39 PM	#14
Rictor Old Timer Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 12,208	Most designers and content providers are flaky. Hell most people in this business in general are flaky if they work for themselves and not out of an office. Not enough people treat this like a business.

05-11-2004, 12:39 PM	#15
DreamCumTrue Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 2,985	Yes. I have never had a designer follow up on anything even if I got them to finish their work in the first place. My fucking profile site still says Pickapal instead of Peekapal. Fuckin a.

05-11-2004, 12:42 PM	#18
crockett in a van by the river Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 76,806	it's called designer's block.. which is why I've never started a design site. I can't ever finish my own site designs let alone anyone else's. I give two for designers that can finish something and be happy enough with it.. Myself I always want to change something or delete it because I'm not happy with it. __________________ In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

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shima Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Location: Office, as usual Posts: 1,753	Shit, I gotta raise my prices, so I won't look like a deadbeat. Sorry to hear that man, who else did fuck you up like this?

05-11-2004, 01:27 PM	#23
harvey Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: 127.0.0.1 Posts: 9,266	well, not everybody is the same, same as no all customers are the same, no all deals are the same and so on. For one, you can see what people says about us at http://www.fdsign.com/design/news.html pretty far from being flaky or whatever Not to spam our services since we really cannot work for SEO, just to show you your question "Are all designers complete fucking flaky deadbeats?" has an answer and it's a big "NO!". In my experience, I know more bad stories in the customer side than the designer side, you just check the board. And btw, there are several design firms or individuals I'm sure they're really straight, such as http://sexymojo.com, http://webinc.com, http://dickmansdesign.com, http://ialien.com and many more, sorry if I forgot any, I'm sure there are plenty more than those. I never heard a bad word against them, and I feel like I never will __________________ This post is endorsed by CIA, KGB, MI6, the Mafia, Illuminati, Kim Jong Il, Worldwide Ninjas Association, Klingon Empire and lolcats. Don't mess around with it, just accept it and embrace the truth

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