Are all designers complete fucking flaky deadbeats?

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  • jojojo
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Mar 2002
    • 2318
    #1

    Are all designers complete fucking flaky deadbeats?

    How come every time I hire a designer they fucking flake out and I never fucking hear from them again?

    WHAT THE FUCK IS UP WITH THAT?

    WHY CAN'T ANY OF THESE FUCKS EVER ACT PROFESSIONAL AND NOT WASTE MY TIME?

    fuck I guess I need a new designer that can do a reality tour in exchange for SEO services.

    I still have some on file but of course the guy who did the best work is the one that flaked out. No emails for weeks.
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    • AMADude
      Confirmed User
      • Apr 2004
      • 3875
      #2
      Try this guy.....

      www.sexymojo.com

      No sig, just here to fuck around.

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        • jojojo
          Too lazy to set a custom title
          • Mar 2002
          • 2318
          #3
          thanks I will talk to him...
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            • eroswebmaster
              March 1st, 2003
              • Jul 2001
              • 20295
              #4
              Originally posted by AMADude
              Try this guy.....

              www.sexymojo.com
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                • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
                  best designer on GFY
                  • Mar 2003
                  • 30307
                  #5
                  "How come every time I hire a designer they fucking flake out and I never fucking hear from them again?"

                  Ya probably didnt pay em enough for the effort.
                  I give cheap skates the cold shoulder as a policy.

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                    • CuriousToyBoy2
                      So Fucking Banned
                      • Apr 2004
                      • 707
                      #6
                      Originally posted by AlienQ
                      "How come every time I hire a designer they fucking flake out and I never fucking hear from them again?"
                      Ya probably didnt pay em enough for the effort. I give cheap skates the cold shoulder as a policy.
                      If they really did the wrong thing by you and you were not actually expecting miracles performed overnight with nothing while paying peanuts, how about sharing whom we should steer clear of so they have the opportunity to give their side of the story.

                      And there is ALWAYS 2 sides to every story.

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                        • iFliPcEss
                          Registered User
                          • Dec 2003
                          • 3087
                          #7
                          why don't you try a dedicated designer...


                          please see sig

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                            • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
                              best designer on GFY
                              • Mar 2003
                              • 30307
                              #8
                              Originally posted by CuriousToyBoy
                              If they really did the wrong thing by you and you were not actually expecting miracles performed overnight with nothing while paying peanuts, how about sharing whom we should steer clear of so they have the opportunity to give their side of the story.

                              And there is ALWAYS 2 sides to every story.
                              If you really want to know the rules of engagement...

                              I do not open photoshop for 20 bucks.
                              Anything I do is immediatly at the least 1k in services.
                              I've heard every story/offer in the book, but it comes down to money.
                              If they do not have it I do not really bother. Clients with money do not mind the costs they mind the time of delivery more than anything else.

                              So really to cut the shit, the 1K fence is in place from con artists and shitsters with a "Plan".

                              I will admit I give slack for reputable companies to gain there business, what designer does not do that? We all want "The killer" client. However in an industry full of two bit hustlers and fly by nights ya goto put in place policies.

                              Designers in the busines if they are good control the vertical and the horizontal and over the years I do not understand why designers get dragged through the mud, especially by broke fucks that go out of there way to slam a designer for somthing or other in services that were on a cheap skate budget to begin with.

                              Always 2 sides to every story some designers are fuck faces have no doubts but the reality is most non design folks expect the world for 5 cents.

                              There are only a few reliable designers that operate professionally with a staying power and pro attitude, and a pro process, they can be found on my own design site. I do not mind giving business away if I can't take it, its no sweat off my shoulders.

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                                • Sarah_Jayne
                                  Now with more Jayne
                                  • Dec 2002
                                  • 40077
                                  #9
                                  no. Some design companies are very professional and take pride in being that way. You do get what you pay for and that that is reflected in more than just the actual design.

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                                    • stevecore
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • May 2003
                                      • 6130
                                      #10
                                      flaky deadbeats are normally caused by you giving them money (normally half up front). think about if you paid half up front for anything else, do you think you would get the prompt service you expect?

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                                        • Newton - XXXAmigoz
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Feb 2004
                                          • 1026
                                          #11
                                          If you have a problem, name them and let them respond to defend themselves rather than making gross generalisations of the designers as a whole, that does nobody any good.

                                          Good luck finding a designer
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                                            • AkiraSS
                                              Wemaxa.com
                                              • Jan 2003
                                              • 2989
                                              #12
                                              If I understand the thread properly, you hired a designer in exchange for SEO services, no money involved?
                                              SEO is a risky business and takes 4-5 months to see results and you expect your designer to respond immediately?

                                              Why bash people if you don't post proof or at least point fingers...

                                              Anyway, we don't trade services but we're reliable as hell. Check out our portfolio if you're interested in doing business:
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                                                • jojojo
                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                  • Mar 2002
                                                  • 2318
                                                  #13
                                                  There are only a few reliable designers that operate professionally with a staying power and pro attitude
                                                  you hit the nail on the head 'a few'

                                                  Im not naming him just yet. Maybe he will see these posts or decide to answer and email or ICQ msg sometime this century.
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                                                    • Rictor
                                                      Old Timer
                                                      • Jan 2001
                                                      • 12208
                                                      #14
                                                      Most designers and content providers are flaky. Hell most people in this business in general are flaky if they work for themselves and not out of an office. Not enough people treat this like a business.

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                                                        • DreamCumTrue
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Nov 2003
                                                          • 2985
                                                          #15
                                                          Yes. I have never had a designer follow up on anything even if I got them to finish their work in the first place.

                                                          My fucking profile site still says Pickapal instead of Peekapal.

                                                          Fuckin a.

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                                                            • jojojo
                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                              • Mar 2002
                                                              • 2318
                                                              #16
                                                              I will name the first deadbeat I dealt with:

                                                              http://www.groovyadultdesign.com/

                                                              this guy we DID pay cash and he delivered 25% of the work then fucked off forever. His site is still up but not updated since last year.
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                                                                • jojojo
                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                  • Mar 2002
                                                                  • 2318
                                                                  #17
                                                                  SEO is a risky business and takes 4-5 months to see results and you expect your designer to respond immediately?
                                                                  because he said 'great sounds good I'll start on it now and have it ready in about 6 days'

                                                                  I said ok what site do you want SEO'd? He said 'I dunno yet, let me do your design first'

                                                                  and again my original question was are all designers blah blah and the reply I am getting is .... MOST are
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                                                                    • crockett
                                                                      in a van by the river
                                                                      • May 2003
                                                                      • 76818
                                                                      #18
                                                                      it's called designer's block.. which is why I've never started a design site. I can't ever finish my own site designs let alone anyone else's.

                                                                      I give two for designers that can finish something and be happy enough with it.. Myself I always want to change something or delete it because I'm not happy with it.
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                                                                        • eroswebmaster
                                                                          March 1st, 2003
                                                                          • Jul 2001
                                                                          • 20295
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by stevecore
                                                                          flaky deadbeats are normally caused by you giving them money (normally half up front). think about if you paid half up front for anything else, do you think you would get the prompt service you expect?

                                                                          I've instituted the half up front deposit to get rid of the flakes on the other end.

                                                                          I actually had a customer trying to put in an order the other day who asked me...."If I put in this order does that mean I have to follow through?"
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                                                                            • stevecore
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • May 2003
                                                                              • 6130
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by eroswebmaster
                                                                              I've instituted the half up front deposit to get rid of the flakes on the other end.

                                                                              I actually had a customer trying to put in an order the other day who asked me...."If I put in this order does that mean I have to follow through?"
                                                                              LOL, oh god. just reinforces the fact why i only work with people in the industry i know.

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                                                                                • AkiraSS
                                                                                  Wemaxa.com
                                                                                  • Jan 2003
                                                                                  • 2989
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by jojojo
                                                                                  I will name the first deadbeat I dealt with:

                                                                                  http://www.groovyadultdesign.com/

                                                                                  this guy we DID pay cash and he delivered 25% of the work then fucked off forever. His site is still up but not updated since last year.

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                                                                                    • shima
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • May 2003
                                                                                      • 1753
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Shit, I gotta raise my prices, so I won't look like a deadbeat.

                                                                                      Sorry to hear that man, who else did fuck you up like this?

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                                                                                        • harvey
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • Jul 2001
                                                                                          • 9266
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          well, not everybody is the same, same as no all customers are the same, no all deals are the same and so on. For one, you can see what people says about us at http://www.fdsign.com/design/news.html pretty far from being flaky or whatever

                                                                                          Not to spam our services since we really cannot work for SEO, just to show you your question "Are all designers complete fucking flaky deadbeats?" has an answer and it's a big "NO!". In my experience, I know more bad stories in the customer side than the designer side, you just check the board.

                                                                                          And btw, there are several design firms or individuals I'm sure they're really straight, such as http://sexymojo.com, http://webinc.com, http://dickmansdesign.com, http://ialien.com and many more, sorry if I forgot any, I'm sure there are plenty more than those. I never heard a bad word against them, and I feel like I never will
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                                                                                            • okny
                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                              • Aug 2002
                                                                                              • 5761
                                                                                              #24
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                                                                                                • Amp
                                                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                  • Nov 2001
                                                                                                  • 1661
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Originally posted by stevecore
                                                                                                  flaky deadbeats are normally caused by you giving them money (normally half up front). think about if you paid half up front for anything else, do you think you would get the prompt service you expect?
                                                                                                  I find that line of reasoning to be very odd. Virtually EVERYTHING i want, I pay for IN FULL up front. None of this half crap, or as the case seems to be with designers, NONE up front.

                                                                                                  Tell me what else you can buy and evaluate and decide if you want it or not, with NOTHING up front.

                                                                                                  The answer is nothing. Designers should be no exception. You aren't buying a fucking package wrapped in plastic, and if you are, then it's a one time sale. Here's the price, pay it or go the fuck away. However usually, in the case of hiring a designer, you are buying their SERVICES. Not a package.

                                                                                                  Would an architect come and draw up plans to remodel your house for nothing? So you could decide after he did his work whether or not you want to pay him?

                                                                                                  I don't think so.

                                                                                                  Give designers their due. Pay the fucking fees, and you get the fucking work. Simple. Reality. Deal with it.

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                                                                                                      • Oct 2003
                                                                                                      • 27360
                                                                                                      #26
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