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05-10-2004, 01:44 AM

Do you respect individuals with tons of cash and little to no drive, or individuals with enough capital to start something innovative and work their asses off?

I know most people love to kiss the ass of rich big wigs, but how is that practice any different than being a slave to corporate America? Are you an ass kisser or a person who roots for the hard workers?

Obviously a person with a ton of loot and a strong drive deserves respect, but it's not very often you'll come across this. To those individuals that are around, Cheers! However... It's very rare that you'll see a person in this situation who defines himself by his/her money. By the time you have time to gloat, there's others passing you, or waiting in the wings. What are you? An ass kisser hoping to have some money handed down to you, or a hard worker who respects those that have the same drive and motivation as themselves?

arial · 05-10-2004, 01:53 AM

I think you know my answer to this one. I respect anyone who likes to work hard at what they do. Just because they aren't successful at first or they don't catch on as fast as others doesn't mean they're a nobody just means they need more time. I've seen how hard you've worked for the few years I've known you, hell I've even done some work for you over the years. My respect lies within how hard someone is willing to work at something and not give up.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 05-10-2004, 01:54 AM

Money is a game that has the odd's against you if you have none.

For instance: No money means your only gonna be paid what "They give you".
"They" will only pay you enough to get by.

The idea is to keep you alive and dependent on the source of income.
You won't get out of it.
You never will.
You will live like your family lived.

When you decide to fight to get ahead, people might referr to you as arrogant, one not to be trusted, one that is off the cuff.
You will have everyone in the world telling you that you are an idiot and a fool.

When you decide to make your way, you are breaking from the things that bound you odd's are you still won't be rich norwealthy.

Money tends to stay with people that have it in the long run of things.

Sorry thats just the way it is.

Pleasurepays · 05-10-2004, 01:57 AM

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Originally posted by AlienQ
[B]Money is a game that has the odd's against you if you have none.

For instance: No money means your only gonna be paid what "They give you".
"They" will only pay you enough to get by.

The idea is to keep you alive and dependent on the source of income.
You won't get out of it.
You never will.
You will live like your family lived.

thats BS. people put themselves in the position of being "dependent" - not employers. people are retards.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 05-10-2004, 01:58 AM

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Originally posted by Pleasurepays
thats BS. people put themselves in the position of being "dependent" - not employers. people are retards.

Thats my point.

People are stupid and the clever ones have most of you running around chasing your tail's.

KRL · 05-10-2004, 02:02 AM

The people I respect the most are the ones who start from nothing and build up a nice business, and don't lose touch with the person they were before they had money, who stay humble, who put their money to good use, and who keep working hard even when they no longer have to.

The people I respect the least are the arrogant upper class types who inherited all their money, who think they are better than everyone else, who think their shit doesn't smell, who use their money for the good of themselves only and not others, and who look down on common people. I can't stand these types of stuck ups and I had to grow up with a lot of them in the suburbs of Philladelphia with all that old line WASP money.

05-10-2004, 02:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AlienQ
Money is a game that has the odd's against you if you have none.

For instance: No money means your only gonna be paid what "They give you".
"They" will only pay you enough to get by.

The idea is to keep you alive and dependent on the source of income.
You won't get out of it.
You never will.
You will live like your family lived.

When you decide to fight to get ahead, people might referr to you as arrogant, one not to be trusted, one that is off the cuff.
You will have everyone in the world telling you that you are an idiot and a fool.

When you decide to make your way, you are breaking from the things that bound you odd's are you still won't be rich norwealthy.

Money tends to stay with people that have it in the long run of things.

Sorry thats just the way it is.

Great points... On the other hand, I came into the biz with nothing, and I've amassed quite a savings since day 1. I've done what it takes to survive, learned more skills, took on more challenges and now I'm at a point where I'm on the verge of some success. There will always be a few that fall in the initial mode, then eventually break through.

05-10-2004, 02:05 AM

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Originally posted by KRL
The people I respect the most are the ones who start from nothing and build up a nice business, and don't lose touch with the person they were before they had money, who stay humble, who put their money to good use, and who keep working hard even when they no longer have to.

The people I respect the least are the arrogant upper class types who inherited all their money, who think they are better than everyone else, who think their shit doesn't smell, who use their money for the good of themselves only and not others, and who look down on common people. I can't stand these types of stuck ups and I had to grow up with a lot of them in the suburbs of Philladelphia with all that old line WASP money.

Nice summation KRL. You've always been a person with something useful to say, and networking skills that are quite remarkable. While I'm not quite sure what is is you do, I'm sure you do it to the best of your ability.

Roald · 05-10-2004, 02:06 AM

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Originally posted by KRL
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The people I respect the least are the arrogant upper class types who inherited all their money, who think they are better than everyone else, who think their shit doesn't smell, who use their money for the good of themselves only and not others, and who look down on common people. I can't stand these types of stuck ups and I had to grow up with a lot of them in the suburbs of Philladelphia with all that old line WASP money.

one name comes up to my mind

SomeCreep · 05-10-2004, 02:07 AM

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Originally posted by KRL
The people I respect the most are the ones who start from nothing and build up a nice business, and don't lose touch with the person they were before they had money, who stay humble, who put their money to good use, and who keep working hard even when they no longer have to.

The people I respect the least are the arrogant upper class types who inherited all their money, who think they are better than everyone else, who think their shit doesn't smell, who use their money for the good of themselves only and not others, and who look down on common people. I can't stand these types of stuck ups and I had to grow up with a lot of them in the suburbs of Philladelphia with all that old line WASP money.

Yes, well said.

WiredGuy · 05-10-2004, 02:08 AM

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Originally posted by KRL
The people I respect the most are the ones who start from nothing and build up a nice business, and don't lose touch with the person they were before they had money, who stay humble, who put their money to good use, and who keep working hard even when they no longer have to.

The people I respect the least are the arrogant upper class types who inherited all their money, who think they are better than everyone else, who think their shit doesn't smell, who use their money for the good of themselves only and not others, and who look down on common people. I can't stand these types of stuck ups and I had to grow up with a lot of them in the suburbs of Philladelphia with all that old line WASP money.

Very well said and with that, I totally agree. I respect intelligence above most things, people who used their knowledge to become successful. Not necessarily reflected by the size of one's bank account, but by their accomplishments in life.

WG

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 05-10-2004, 02:12 AM

Well just offering my best advice to some of you young bloods out there...

I been in this business for 10 years.
I am not a millionaire.

I have helped MANY other's to that status. Generally its upto you to decide whether your going to play a game on someones elses rules or you can play the game with your own.

Albeit playing with your own rules is not easy.

Loyalty is tough to come by and even then when money is put in the equation it becomes convoluted.

There was once upon a time an Internet Start up.
I helped it become somthing, I put my heart and soul into making and contributing. That company was bought for $10 Million.

I didnt get a fucken dime except my check after promises, promises. Tough lesson to learn indeed.
I was only 19 at the time.

Respect is forshit when $ is in the middle.

quiet · 05-10-2004, 02:15 AM

definitely tons of cash and little drive. even better, shitloads of cash and zero drive.

AWW - Kevin · 05-10-2004, 02:35 AM

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Originally posted by KRL

The people I respect the least are the arrogant upper class types who inherited all their money, who think they are better than everyone else, who think their shit doesn't smell, who use their money for the good of themselves only and not others, and who look down on common people. I can't stand these types of stuck ups and I had to grow up with a lot of them in the suburbs of Philladelphia with all that old line WASP money.

there seem to be a few of those on this board as well

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 05-10-2004, 02:39 AM

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Originally posted by AWW - Kevin
there seem to be a few of those on this board as well

A few?
Ahhaa

Try MOST all of them.

KRL · 05-10-2004, 02:48 AM

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Originally posted by AlienQ

There was once upon a time an Internet Start up.
I helped it become somthing, I put my heart and soul into making and contributing. That company was bought for $10 Million.

I didnt get a fucken dime except my check after promises, promises. Tough lesson to learn indeed.
I was only 19 at the time.

LOL I did the same thing once. This was in the early days of computers and I was about 24 and helped a guy develop a new computer printing technology. Worked my ass off with him, all for promises of stock and going public with it. Yeh right, I got totally reemed, never got my stock, he sold the company and made a killing and I got squat. It was a great experience though and I never repeated that mistake again.

I got all my stock upfront from there on out in any deal. No promises accepted.

GigaXXX · 05-10-2004, 02:53 AM

newsdude · 05-10-2004, 02:56 AM

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Originally posted by KRL
The people I respect the most are the ones who start from nothing and build up a nice business, and don't lose touch with the person they were before they had money, who stay humble, who put their money to good use, and who keep working hard even when they no longer have to.

The people I respect the least are the arrogant upper class types who inherited all their money, who think they are better than everyone else, who think their shit doesn't smell, who use their money for the good of themselves only and not others, and who look down on common people. I can't stand these types of stuck ups and I had to grow up with a lot of them in the suburbs of Philladelphia with all that old line WASP money.

Well said!

Mr. Marks · 05-10-2004, 02:58 AM

How about the broke guy with no motivation but EXTREMELY greedy? Like TOLIK or CAMOKAT hahahahahahah

Die, Russian Bastards!

Mr. Marks · 05-10-2004, 02:59 AM

Was the name of the Company... ADOBE?

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Originally posted by KRL
LOL I did the same thing once. This was in the early days of computers and I was about 24 and helped a guy develop a new computer printing technology. Worked my ass off with him, all for promises of stock and going public with it. Yeh right, I got totally reemed, never got my stock, he sold the company and made a killing and I got squat. It was a great experience though and I never repeated that mistake again.

I got all my stock upfront from there on out in any deal. No promises accepted.

KRL · 05-10-2004, 03:03 AM

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Originally posted by papichulo
Was the name of the Company... ADOBE?

LOL no not that big. We got it up to $3 Mil by the first year and then I asked for my back salary and stock that had been promised which he'd kept saying I'll get you it soon don't worry bs.

Lykos · 05-10-2004, 04:56 AM

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Originally posted by arial
I think you know my answer to this one. I respect anyone who likes to work hard at what they do. Just because they aren't successful at first or they don't catch on as fast as others doesn't mean they're a nobody just means they need more time. I've seen how hard you've worked for the few years I've known you, hell I've even done some work for you over the years. My respect lies within how hard someone is willing to work at something and not give up.

Very nice and good answer,i totally agree with u,i also give the most respect to people who are willing to work and learn about work

CuriousToyBoy2 · 05-10-2004, 05:03 AM

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Originally posted by arial
I think you know my answer to this one. I respect anyone who likes to work hard at what they do. Just because they aren't successful at first or they don't catch on as fast as others doesn't mean they're a nobody just means they need more time. I've seen how hard you've worked for the few years I've known you, hell I've even done some work for you over the years. My respect lies within how hard someone is willing to work at something and not give up.

I tip my hat to that.

And agree wholeheartedly.

maxjohan · 05-10-2004, 05:11 AM

Who deserves the most respect?...

It's health care all the way for me.

We are all needed, but those that help others get
my kudos.

05-10-2004, 01:44 AM	#1
shermo Guest Posts: n/a	Who deserves the most respect? Do you respect individuals with tons of cash and little to no drive, or individuals with enough capital to start something innovative and work their asses off? I know most people love to kiss the ass of rich big wigs, but how is that practice any different than being a slave to corporate America? Are you an ass kisser or a person who roots for the hard workers? Obviously a person with a ton of loot and a strong drive deserves respect, but it's not very often you'll come across this. To those individuals that are around, Cheers! However... It's very rare that you'll see a person in this situation who defines himself by his/her money. By the time you have time to gloat, there's others passing you, or waiting in the wings. What are you? An ass kisser hoping to have some money handed down to you, or a hard worker who respects those that have the same drive and motivation as themselves?

05-10-2004, 01:54 AM	#3
AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE best designer on GFY Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: IALIEN.COM - High Definition Video and Photographic Productions -ICQ 78943384 Posts: 30,307	Money is a game that has the odd's against you if you have none. For instance: No money means your only gonna be paid what "They give you". "They" will only pay you enough to get by. The idea is to keep you alive and dependent on the source of income. You won't get out of it. You never will. You will live like your family lived. When you decide to fight to get ahead, people might referr to you as arrogant, one not to be trusted, one that is off the cuff. You will have everyone in the world telling you that you are an idiot and a fool. When you decide to make your way, you are breaking from the things that bound you odd's are you still won't be rich norwealthy. Money tends to stay with people that have it in the long run of things. Sorry thats just the way it is. __________________ NAKED HOSTING FTW!11 I'm On The INSANE PLAN $9.95/mo! \| The Alien Blog Adult News Worth Reading Updated Daily \| Content For Sale! 641 PICS 216 MINUTES OF VIDEO $350.00 \|ICQ: 78943384 \|

05-10-2004, 02:02 AM	#6
KRL Entrepreneur Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: USA Posts: 31,429	The people I respect the most are the ones who start from nothing and build up a nice business, and don't lose touch with the person they were before they had money, who stay humble, who put their money to good use, and who keep working hard even when they no longer have to. The people I respect the least are the arrogant upper class types who inherited all their money, who think they are better than everyone else, who think their shit doesn't smell, who use their money for the good of themselves only and not others, and who look down on common people. I can't stand these types of stuck ups and I had to grow up with a lot of them in the suburbs of Philladelphia with all that old line WASP money. __________________ If you would like to develop your domains, you can lease inexpensive foreign labor from the leaders in the field at iWebmasters.com TO LOWER YOUR COSTS AND INCREASE YOUR PRODUCTION! * * * * * * * * * * * * Domains Adult News KRL's Newsletter Biz Tips Just Listed Domains

05-10-2004, 02:12 AM	#12
AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE best designer on GFY Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: IALIEN.COM - High Definition Video and Photographic Productions -ICQ 78943384 Posts: 30,307	Well just offering my best advice to some of you young bloods out there... I been in this business for 10 years. I am not a millionaire. I have helped MANY other's to that status. Generally its upto you to decide whether your going to play a game on someones elses rules or you can play the game with your own. Albeit playing with your own rules is not easy. Loyalty is tough to come by and even then when money is put in the equation it becomes convoluted. There was once upon a time an Internet Start up. I helped it become somthing, I put my heart and soul into making and contributing. That company was bought for $10 Million. I didnt get a fucken dime except my check after promises, promises. Tough lesson to learn indeed. I was only 19 at the time. Respect is forshit when $ is in the middle. __________________ NAKED HOSTING FTW!11 I'm On The INSANE PLAN $9.95/mo! \| The Alien Blog Adult News Worth Reading Updated Daily \| Content For Sale! 641 PICS 216 MINUTES OF VIDEO $350.00 \|ICQ: 78943384 \| Last edited by AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE; 05-10-2004 at 02:14 AM..

05-10-2004, 02:15 AM	#13
quiet we'll miss you our friend. RIP Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Fernie, BC Posts: 25,115	definitely tons of cash and little drive. even better, shitloads of cash and zero drive. __________________ we'll miss you our friend. RIP

05-10-2004, 01:53 AM	#2
arial Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Bay Area Posts: 4,012	I think you know my answer to this one. I respect anyone who likes to work hard at what they do. Just because they aren't successful at first or they don't catch on as fast as others doesn't mean they're a nobody just means they need more time. I've seen how hard you've worked for the few years I've known you, hell I've even done some work for you over the years. My respect lies within how hard someone is willing to work at something and not give up.

05-10-2004, 02:53 AM	#17
GigaXXX Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 872	hug __________________ Free Domain Analysis Tool @ WebBoar.com. Domain worth, Same IP Domains, Google Analytics etc

05-10-2004, 02:58 AM	#19
Mr. Marks Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Wherever I want Posts: 7,517	How about the broke guy with no motivation but EXTREMELY greedy? Like TOLIK or CAMOKAT hahahahahahah Die, Russian Bastards!

05-10-2004, 05:11 AM	#24
maxjohan Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Sweden Posts: 7,219	Who deserves the most respect?... It's health care all the way for me. We are all needed, but those that help others get my kudos. __________________ I went from 100 to 313,000 satoshis in 2 days! Lots of daily freerolls...