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Old 05-08-2004, 10:03 PM   #51
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Angle looks off, looks like he is aiming more at the bags.
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Old 05-08-2004, 10:16 PM   #52
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I have a softspot for kids.....


how much proof is there of suicide bomb babies?
Id like to see more if possible.
i hope its not your softspot that wants to see that

on a serious note i can't understand how anybody would use one of their own for bombs, especially the young.
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Old 05-08-2004, 10:26 PM   #53
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Old 05-08-2004, 10:29 PM   #54
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that's not pointed at the kid
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Old 05-08-2004, 10:32 PM   #55
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Finger off the trigger pointed down at the bags. Its a picture we have no idea what hes saying. He could be pointing his gun down at the bag saying whats in the bag as part of a security check.

Exactly what I was thinking. Or he could be moving them along moving it from side to side
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Old 05-08-2004, 10:33 PM   #56
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Fletch,
A couple of things...
The depth doesn't seem right for him to be aiming at the kid. Look how big the guy with the gun is and how small the kid and parents are. Plus any scenario I was ever in I wouldn't aim at the bags I'd aim at the fucker holding the bags. To me it looks like he's covering his buddy who's searchind someone on the ground in the foreground of the pic. That's why his finger is off the trigger.

Also... are you sure that's an American soldier... no kevlar cover and wearing some fucked up cold weather gear I've never seen before. US soldiers wear cutting edge GoreTex. I've never seen an M16 stock that looked like that. Also the bipod on the front of the rifle isn't US issue. There's other shit too but... that's enough for me to doubt it's an American.

Anyways... yea kids even having to see that shit is fuct up but I have to stick up for the joes!
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Old 05-08-2004, 10:34 PM   #57
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A couple of things...
The depth doesn't seem right for him to be aiming at the kid. Look how big the guy with the gun is and how small the kid and parents are. Plus any scenario I was ever in I wouldn't aim at the bags I'd aim at the fucker holding the bags. To me it looks like he's covering his buddy who's searchind someone on the ground in the foreground of the pic. That's why his finger is off the trigger.

Also... are you sure that's an American soldier... no kevlar cover and wearing some fucked up cold weather gear I've never seen before. US soldiers wear cutting edge GoreTex. I've never seen an M16 stock that looked like that. Also the bipod on the front of the rifle isn't US issue. There's other shit too but... that's enough for me to doubt it's an American.

Anyways... yea kids even having to see that shit is fuct up but I have to stick up for the joes!
Its not an American soldier, the pic was posted with the title to see who would react based on the image and who would look closer. Kinda like the test where the teaches sayd in the instructions (do not answer any of these questions) and the entire class does.

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Old 05-08-2004, 10:37 PM   #58
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Old 05-08-2004, 10:39 PM   #59
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why would you assume that he is aiming at anything? a soldier has his weapon in a normal ready position and is moving around as he watches people and a photo was taken.
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Ok if its a real pic its fucked up, but it looks sooo photoshoped......
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Old 05-08-2004, 10:46 PM   #61
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What you have to remember is,Israel was formed by terrorism, so they know all the tricks. They used to use them themselves.

Also the attrition on the Palestinians is to make them feel so intimidated and helpless they will just get up and walk out of the land they have lived in for thousands of years.The soldiers grandparents were probably born in Europe.


charly!

you so stupid taht i even dont want to answer you. if israel formed by terrorism so the usa too. it begins with terrorism against legal british regime.
dont forget - the islam is the world big problem.
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I think he's about to cap the bitch with the headdress in the knees!

for those that said ... it's war. OR that he is aiming at the bags. It's worth pointing out that neither the child nor the bags pose an immediate threat. Even if there were guns in the bags... it's not like the guns are going to fire all by themselves.

the lady with the black jacket, and the scowel is the most likely threat. followed by the man. then the lady with the head wrap. then the kid. then the bags
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you so stupid taht i even dont want to answer you. if israel formed by terrorism so the usa too. it begins with terrorism against legal british regime.
dont forget - the islam is the world big problem.
America was formed with more than just terrorism. ;)

They used biological warfare as well (they gave small pox infected blankets to the Native Americans) We were some of the early users of bio warefare, i forget who started it ;)

You might also want to consider, Charly isnt in the US, he is a Czech so call it like it is, dont knock America because of him ;)

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i like america its our best supporter in the world.
charly its not a big pride to be a chech. dont forget half of chechs collaborate with the nazis in the worl war ii
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Kidding?

Sorry, I have a softspot for kids, maybe thats why Im not a soldier out killing them or even *having to aim my gun at them or their bags*

how much proof is there of suicide bomb babies?

Id like to see more if possible.

I have a jewish buddy and this is his claim too, which he also says Palestenians arent really human so it doesnt matter, but hey Zionists are wacky folks, especially zionists who live in the US hahaha he talks about Palestenians like old racist whites do about blacks down south, its somewhat spooky.

But thats his claim, "theyll blow up their baby to kill a jew"

nonetheless, hate is hate right?
What a surprise, Fletch involved in a pro-palestinian (the poor, helpless, innocent victims) anti Israeli (the evil fire breathing, killing for no reason, real terrorists of the world, should be blamed for everything) thread.

Fletch, I hope you go to Israel one day and walk on a bus, and get blown up, but not killed, just a limb or something, and then preach to us on how innocent the Palestinians are. Or maybe get yourself arrested, even by the Palestinians, tell them you're an American, and we'll probably never see you again. But hey, you can tell them "look guys, I defend you on GFY, you can't do anything to me, I'm your friend!" and their response will be "You're an American? Let us accommodate you in a much nicer prison cell, because you'll be here for a long time." End of story.
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What a surprise, Fletch involved in a pro-palestinian (the poor, helpless, innocent victims) anti Israeli (the evil fire breathing, killing for no reason, real terrorists of the world, should be blamed for everything) thread.

Fletch, I hope you go to Israel one day and walk on a bus, and get blown up, but not killed, just a limb or something, and then preach to us on how innocent the Palestinians are. Or maybe get yourself arrested, even by the Palestinians, tell them you're an American, and we'll probably never see you again. But hey, you can tell them "look guys, I defend you on GFY, you can't do anything to me, I'm your friend!" and their response will be "You're an American? Let us accommodate you in a much nicer prison cell, because you'll be here for a long time." End of story.
i am glad you wish me to be blown up.

it shows your ignorance and has nothing to do with me.

my post had this in it: "without getting into the Palestinian vs Israel shit, GIVE ME ONE REASON for this?"

glad you missed it, and instead of READIng you wish more people to be blown up.

what a shame.

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Its not an American soldier, the pic was posted with the title to see who would react based on the image and who would look closer. Kinda like the test where the teaches sayd in the instructions (do not answer any of these questions) and the entire class does.

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KRL, a few more for your collection, hate is a learned behavour.











...and for Fletch to be wary of those "Rabbinical Students" that just don't look right for whatever reason.

These pictures are very interesting in that the explosives can be easily concealed. Also notice the nails and hardware added to the explosive devices and the cell phone in the brief case. Pictures of bombs currently being used by suicide bombers in Israel.

Below are a number of photos released by Israeli Anti-Terrorist personnel at the Worldwide Conference in Charleston, South Carolina. All photos depict the real stuff being used against Israel and through out the mid-east by terrorists.











There's others on my laptop, but I hope you are getting the point right about now. I know a little too much on the subject, I avoid taking the bus or the subway knowing these are prime targets and I want to avoid the carnage.
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He's not pointing at the kid...
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IDF stats on child suicide bombers

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_suicide_bomber
yikes, reading some of this is horrible.

"The IDF collected data over the involvement of Palestinian children in suicide bombings is grim, according to this data:

Since the beginning of the violence in 2000, 29 suicide attacks were carried out by youth under the age of 18.
Since May 2001, 22 shootings attacks and attacks using explosive devices were carried out by youth under the age of 18.
Since the beginning of 2001, more than 40 youth under the age of 18 were involved in attempted suicide bombings that were thwarted (of them, three during 2004).

The IDF does not, however, point out that since the beginning of the conflict:

The IDF has killed 550 children in the Palestinian territories during the intifada, compared to only 106 Israeli children killed by Palestinians. The ratio of wounded children is about 10 to 1.
They had also had arrested over 2,000 children by June 2003 alone.

Children in IDF custody report abuses (beatings, sleep deprivation, and humiliation such as being forced to strip naked, derogatory language, being forced to perform a variety of demeaning actions, etc) and said they were treated as adult Palestinians; this is backed up by numerous articles from Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch."
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I agree, no reason to ever do that, no matter what conceivable possible scenario.... there would never ever be a reason for it.

On a lighter note, that guy has a nice leather jacket.
Actually that's not true. One of my mother's best-friends son is over in Iraq. And, he said you can't trust the kids, because they'll come up to you with a brown bag or something and sometimes they'll be bombs, other times, a soda or something. Soldiers were also told to aim at anybody that runs up to a tank with a package in their hands. But one time on a convoy, he had like a 6 maybe 7 or 8 yr old kid come running up to the tank he was in, and he was the gunner on top, and he had to point the gun at the kid the whole time, but that kid had a brown bag in his hand, so he didn't know what it was.

Now this photo, this is totally different. It doesn't look like a threat, but you never know. Ofcourse, you don't know the full story and what was happening there, so you can't say that it wasn't right. What if the kid ran towards the soldier with something in his hand, and the photographer just took a snapshot right when the parents came and grabbed the kid?

You need to think of it in the soldiers view, it's either me or him. Me personally, I would try my hardest to not make it me that's laying on the ground! Just my

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one less future bomber, i could give 2 shits, if i were head of state i would have bombed the shit out of all those piles of shit they call countries.
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See his finger?

Not on trigger.

Still...

War is hell.

lol, tell the kid that..i love ya'll homos trying to justify this..i wonder what ya'll say he wasn't israeli ya be like it's fucked up..bitchmade fags
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maybe the same reason these retards drawn on their uniforms?

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perhaps it's the old "trust no one" theory

the terrorists don't play with rules
was thinking the same thing myself.. these motherfuckers are known to do crazy shit like strapping their kids down with explosives...

It looks like he is aiming the gun at the bags and not the kid. I wouldnt let my guard down for no one either..thats when you will die.
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Fucking idiot. I hope you get stabbed in the back by a kid.
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he's pointing it to the bags. so it's ok
what could be in that bags? that he need to point with his gun on it?
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He aint pointing at the kid. He's just finnished cleaning his rifle
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For a bunch of webmasters a lot of you sure are fucking stupid, what ever happened to "Think before you speak"

(1) This solider is clearly not aiming at the child
(2) His hand is clearly off the trigger with no intent of firing and probably doing this so that there is no accidental shots fired.
(3) Look at the position of his head/arms and body, why would a trained solider be standing in this position if he is infact trying to intimidate or do anything further to the family.

Basically what it probably all boils down to is that this picture was taken out of context and spread over the Internet to stir outrage among morons like some of the members on this board. Similar to these "torture" images released some of you never see the bigger picture or look at things from all possible angles
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yikes, reading some of this is horrible.

"The IDF collected data over the involvement of Palestinian children in suicide bombings is grim, according to this data:

Since the beginning of the violence in 2000, 29 suicide attacks were carried out by youth under the age of 18.
Since May 2001, 22 shootings attacks and attacks using explosive devices were carried out by youth under the age of 18.
Since the beginning of 2001, more than 40 youth under the age of 18 were involved in attempted suicide bombings that were thwarted (of them, three during 2004).

The IDF does not, however, point out that since the beginning of the conflict:

The IDF has killed 550 children in the Palestinian territories during the intifada, compared to only 106 Israeli children killed by Palestinians. The ratio of wounded children is about 10 to 1.
They had also had arrested over 2,000 children by June 2003 alone.

Children in IDF custody report abuses (beatings, sleep deprivation, and humiliation such as being forced to strip naked, derogatory language, being forced to perform a variety of demeaning actions, etc) and said they were treated as adult Palestinians; this is backed up by numerous articles from Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch."
Indeed. What a sad place to have your childhood. I can't even fathom what it must be like for all the kids on both sides of that fence.

Just terrible, just sad, just a sad commentary on how much more humanity we need to get this entire planet to a more peaceful state.


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