Making Money through SIG WHORING (article) - GoFuckYourself.com

$5 submissions · 05-06-2004, 04:12 AM

By $5 Submissions aka Gene of http://www.webmasterlabor.com Outsourced solutions for Today?s online entrepreneur.

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Not until recently, a message board poster?s methods of generating revenue either involved a) posting offers or deals on webmaster boards for direct transactions or b) flying a linked graphical button or text links on one?s signature. The latter almost always consisted of either the poster?s content provider shop, design shop, or your standard webmaster referral program.

With the advent of high traffic adult webmaster chatboards like GFY, a new revenue model appeared for webmasters and/or avid board watchers/participants. This new model revolves around personally selling (either directly, through a broker or through outsource companies) one?s signature space or Sigs. Publicly, these are often sold in blocks of time similar to renting billboard space. Privately, this advertising form can revolve around a guaranteed number of posts for a block of time (usually monthly).

Old strategies ? New impact

Sig promotions? guiding philosophy is not different at all from the general aims of advertising: generating direct sales or building a brand identity. These often involve differing measures of success for a particular Sig promotion campaign. To sponsors who require direct and concrete results, sig campaigns are measured in terms of affiliate sign ups. To sponsors wishing to build brand recognition, Sig campaigns are measured in terms of banner impressions. Regardless of metric used, the number of clicks a Sig generates information an advertising campaign manager can take into consideration in determining success.

One helpful tool in keeping track of the metrics above is AdultGods.Com?s Sig Monkey signature tracking system. You can download a copy by visiting: http://adultgods.com/sigmonkey.php This helpful tool keeps track of Sig views, sig clicks, and calculates a view to click ratio.

While Sig promotions gives webmasters a new way of making money, there are quite a few webmasters who lament this recent development since, in their view, it devaluates the value of Sigs. Sigs originally were a great way to keep track of what other webmasters are doing, hear of new programs, and basically be updated about the latest trends and technologies in the industry. With the rise of PAID Sigs, a few webmasters complain that Sigs now reflect not necessarily what?s new or exciting about the industry but which sponsors have the funds to buy a campaign. In essence, the natural diversity of signatures has greatly diminished.

Another common complaint about the paid Sig system is the quality of posts by webmasters who post for sig views (derisively called ?SigWhores?) tend to be very low because a) of pure volume or b) shock value. Many paid posters just post for sheer volume to create an IMMERSIVE branding effect. This is not too different from driving along a short stretch of highway with massive billboards advertising the same product ever 500 meters. This approach seeks to build brand identity and recognition.

Other paid posters post for shock value. While they post less, the threads they create are quite eye-catching or preys on psychological triggers that they generate massive responses. Subjects involving one country?s superiority over others, ethnic pride, ethnic or religious divisions, sexual problems, or personal judgments rank among the most common ways of creating threads that have ?eyeball catching? value. Other variations of selective posting are posting jokes, interesting/quirky news, or personal stories.

One thing is for sure, with the rise of Sig posters, chatboards such as GFY experience heavier page views. The name of the game has now focused on catching as many eyeballs as possible. Whether through VOLUME posting or SELECTIVE (aka Shock) posting.

Spam Redux:

Many critics of ?sig whores? would just say that they are not much better than spammers. However, there?s 2 ways to become a Sig whore?an obvious one or a creative one.
The bottomline, like with spam, is not be so obvious.

Obvious sig whoring would be to just crank up your posts without paying much attention to the topic of the conversation or the development of the thread. Other ways of obvious sig whoring are posting obviously incendiary threads crafted to get an ?emotional rise? out of readers. This generates quite a lot of eyeballs but also a lot of criticism.

Some Creative topics/methods of posting that can avoid many of the more common complaints against Sigwhoring.

1) Tag team posting: 1 user posts question, another posts "answer.? One variation of this is the artificial piss match.
2) Long term poster aka BRAND poster: a person posts for a long period of time and has a track record of posting informative/helpful or just plain funny/entertaining posts.
This establishes a BRAND and many board readers naturally gravitate towards his posts. Examples: (informative) KRL, (entertaining) Juicylinks, and (provocative) Dark Jedi.
3) "Standards" poster: this person posts a list of quality control items re paysite design or traffic generation?establishes expertise and some sort of credibility. Great for targeted sig marketing (ie., graphics standards posters = design shop sig.)

Bottomline: as long as your sigwhoring is subtle, meets a psychological need of the reader [entertainment, venting, aesthetics, etc], and generates eyeballs without generating too much complaints, you are accomplishing your objective.

Jer · 05-06-2004, 04:16 AM

I read the article.

RicardoB · 05-06-2004, 04:41 AM

Sums it up pretty well, though I think a lot of things are left out

DR_PHIL · 05-06-2004, 05:03 AM

sigmonkey is cheatable..it shouldnt be mentioned

RicardoB · 05-06-2004, 05:05 AM

Everything is cheatable it just takes a creative mind.

That's no excuse

Triple 6 · 05-06-2004, 05:06 AM

interesting.

Lykos · 05-06-2004, 05:08 AM

I read it,good article btw

SomeCreep · 05-06-2004, 05:11 AM

nice article.

TheMob · 05-06-2004, 05:13 AM

fuck sigwhores

$5 submissions · 05-06-2004, 05:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheMob?
fuck sigwhores

"While Sig promotions gives webmasters a new way of making money, there are quite a few webmasters who lament this recent development since, in their view, it devaluates the value of Sigs. Sigs originally were a great way to keep track of what other webmasters are doing, hear of new programs, and basically be updated about the latest trends and technologies in the industry. With the rise of PAID Sigs, a few webmasters complain that Sigs now reflect not necessarily what?s new or exciting about the industry but which sponsors have the funds to buy a campaign. In essence, the natural diversity of signatures has greatly diminished."

Theo · 05-06-2004, 05:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by $5 submissions
Examples: (informative) KRL, (entertaining) Juicylinks, and (provocative) Dark Jedi.

darkjedi would love this part ;-)

lock · 05-06-2004, 05:37 AM

I own sigmoney.com if anyone wishes to buy it i will accept offers or insults to [email protected]

Dildozer · 05-06-2004, 05:46 AM

Fucking sigwhoring fucks.

Eat shit Tbabe and Oracle Porn and all the rest of you broke ass losers. You are the worst newbs board polluting fucks around.

GFY used to be so cool.
Fucktards

johnbosh · 05-06-2004, 05:49 AM

fun article

pornstar2pac · 05-06-2004, 05:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dildozer
Fucking sigwhoring fucks.

Eat shit Tbabe and Oracle Porn and all the rest of you broke ass losers. You are the worst newbs board polluting fucks around.

GFY used to be so cool.
Fucktards

yeah,Fuck sigwhores,

fucktards if you ask me

TurboAngel · 05-06-2004, 05:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
darkjedi would love this part ;-)

You are sooooo right. LMFAO

cool1 · 05-06-2004, 05:59 AM

Good article

KRL · 05-06-2004, 06:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by lock
I own sigmoney.com if anyone wishes to buy it i will accept offers or insults to [email protected]

How much?

Want to do a barter deal for some space in my sig?

VicMartin · 05-06-2004, 06:02 AM

Thanks for the great post.

body · 05-06-2004, 06:02 AM

nice article!

Firehorse · 05-06-2004, 06:04 AM

Good article and overall analysis!

Corleone · 05-06-2004, 06:28 AM

nice article

Spunky · 05-06-2004, 06:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DR_PHIL
sigmonkey is cheatable..it shouldnt be mentioned

It should be to point out you can't rely on it for accuracy

Juicy D. Links · 05-06-2004, 07:02 AM

Very nice , i am bookmarking this....

I like the 2 diff methods..... new aff signups and branding....

Very nice I like

SEE SIG

GigaXXX · 05-06-2004, 07:05 AM

it is interesting...

chemicaleyes · 05-06-2004, 07:09 AM

nice article as usual Gene

Trax · 05-06-2004, 07:11 AM

you should mention my solution towards nobody sig whores in your article
http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread...hreadid=282306

Rictor · 05-06-2004, 10:51 AM

Funny stuff.

I can sum up how to sell your sig in fewer words than that.

1. Speak English fluently.
2. Post on topic.
3. Post more than smilies or one and two word replies.
4. Don't start a hundred meaningless threads a day unless your name is Juicy or you will just piss people off.
5. Actually get off the boards and work, get yourself known in the industry and a company you work with might be more open to buying your sig.

kmanrox · 05-06-2004, 11:05 AM

i'm a total sigwhore

jmarzlak · 05-06-2004, 11:07 AM

so do you wanna buy my sig?

Floridiot · 05-06-2004, 11:11 AM

gfy bought my ferrarri

pornstar2pac · 05-06-2004, 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by juicylinks
Very nice , i am bookmarking this....

I like the 2 diff methods..... new aff signups and branding....

Very nice I like

SEE SIG

in your siggy there is says 6k-8k and up trades. is that per day or per month?

dropped9 · 05-06-2004, 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by pornstar2pac
in your siggy there is says 6k-8k and up trades. is that per day or per month?

If you have to ask then you dont need to know.

EviLGuY · 05-06-2004, 11:37 AM

Good article as usual.

KMR Stitch · 05-06-2004, 11:42 AM

I read the artlicle I don't see my self as a sig whore.

No one has ever called me out for useless posts

Basic_man · 05-06-2004, 11:49 AM

Stop bitching the sig whore !

MetaMan · 05-06-2004, 11:51 AM

YAAAAA lets bring more idiots out of the wood works and allow them to make rent money off stupidity, whoppy fucky doodle!

Illicit · 05-06-2004, 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DR_PHIL
sigmonkey is cheatable..it shouldnt be mentioned

you got that right ! I disabled my click tracking because it is useless information, go ahead click my sig, see if moves beyond 3

pornstar2pac · 05-06-2004, 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ajpiii
you got that right ! I disabled my click tracking because it is useless information, go ahead click my sig, see if moves beyond 3

i disagree

Illicit · 05-06-2004, 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by pornstar2pac
i disagree

werent you the one saying click my sig 40 times and you can play gfy poker ? That kind of stunt is just as bad as clicking it yourself. Its not meaningful data for the person paying you for your sig.

Devilporn · 05-06-2004, 12:02 PM

What? We can make money with sig?

Nicky · 05-06-2004, 12:08 PM

I read the article, it was good, you have some very good points in there, as long as you stick to topic and have something to say with your posts it doesnt realy matter what sig you have.......

$5 submissions · 05-06-2004, 07:19 PM

Thanks for the feedback, guys. Great tips/additional points, Trax & Rictor.

Mr. Marks · 05-07-2004, 04:28 AM

All I gotta say is if you're going to SIG PROMO you better have a THICK SKIN.

Cuz there's tons of whining lil player haters and dick riders up in this mofo!

sexsup · 05-07-2004, 08:24 AM

Good article, nothing new anyways

05-07-2004, 08:47 AM

nice article.

V_RocKs · 05-07-2004, 09:02 AM

Great article bro. I have no idea why CumSensei isn't writting more of his own. He is suck a whore. So are you.

polish_aristocrat · 05-07-2004, 09:07 AM

This is a good article, but I don't see the point of it.
Do you suggest that selling your sig in going to be a permanent solution for webmasters> I would rather think it is temporary.
The article is written in formal language - i like that - but it somehow justifies sig whoring and portraits it as just another long term money making solution for webmasters.

Webmaster A is doing SEO work and building AVS sites.
Webmaster B is submitting galleries and sig whoring.

I don't think it should be put like that.

TheFrog · 05-07-2004, 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DR_PHIL
sigmonkey is cheatable..it shouldnt be mentioned

you being the one who cheated it

polish_aristocrat · 05-07-2004, 09:11 AM

BTW, Lensman suggested few months ago that he will make some new sig selling rules ( something like an auction system ) and perhaps disable the possibility to disable sigs ( nowadays 30% surf GFY with signatures turned off ! ) but it also hasn't been done.

I know Lensman doesn't seem to care about this board so much, ( one thing that counts for him is that it is probably making more and more money each year ), but perhaps the fact that he hasn't modified the sig market and / or GFY in regards to sigs, indicates that he believes the sig market is almost dead.

05-06-2004, 04:12 AM	#1
$5 submissions I help you SUCCEED Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: The Pearl of the Orient Seas Posts: 32,195	Making Money through SIG WHORING (article) By $5 Submissions aka Gene of http://www.webmasterlabor.com Outsourced solutions for Today?s online entrepreneur. All these articles are archived at http://www.webmasterlabor.com/articles/ Not until recently, a message board poster?s methods of generating revenue either involved a) posting offers or deals on webmaster boards for direct transactions or b) flying a linked graphical button or text links on one?s signature. The latter almost always consisted of either the poster?s content provider shop, design shop, or your standard webmaster referral program. With the advent of high traffic adult webmaster chatboards like GFY, a new revenue model appeared for webmasters and/or avid board watchers/participants. This new model revolves around personally selling (either directly, through a broker or through outsource companies) one?s signature space or Sigs. Publicly, these are often sold in blocks of time similar to renting billboard space. Privately, this advertising form can revolve around a guaranteed number of posts for a block of time (usually monthly). Old strategies ? New impact Sig promotions? guiding philosophy is not different at all from the general aims of advertising: generating direct sales or building a brand identity. These often involve differing measures of success for a particular Sig promotion campaign. To sponsors who require direct and concrete results, sig campaigns are measured in terms of affiliate sign ups. To sponsors wishing to build brand recognition, Sig campaigns are measured in terms of banner impressions. Regardless of metric used, the number of clicks a Sig generates information an advertising campaign manager can take into consideration in determining success. One helpful tool in keeping track of the metrics above is AdultGods.Com?s Sig Monkey signature tracking system. You can download a copy by visiting: http://adultgods.com/sigmonkey.php This helpful tool keeps track of Sig views, sig clicks, and calculates a view to click ratio. While Sig promotions gives webmasters a new way of making money, there are quite a few webmasters who lament this recent development since, in their view, it devaluates the value of Sigs. Sigs originally were a great way to keep track of what other webmasters are doing, hear of new programs, and basically be updated about the latest trends and technologies in the industry. With the rise of PAID Sigs, a few webmasters complain that Sigs now reflect not necessarily what?s new or exciting about the industry but which sponsors have the funds to buy a campaign. In essence, the natural diversity of signatures has greatly diminished. Another common complaint about the paid Sig system is the quality of posts by webmasters who post for sig views (derisively called ?SigWhores?) tend to be very low because a) of pure volume or b) shock value. Many paid posters just post for sheer volume to create an IMMERSIVE branding effect. This is not too different from driving along a short stretch of highway with massive billboards advertising the same product ever 500 meters. This approach seeks to build brand identity and recognition. Other paid posters post for shock value. While they post less, the threads they create are quite eye-catching or preys on psychological triggers that they generate massive responses. Subjects involving one country?s superiority over others, ethnic pride, ethnic or religious divisions, sexual problems, or personal judgments rank among the most common ways of creating threads that have ?eyeball catching? value. Other variations of selective posting are posting jokes, interesting/quirky news, or personal stories. One thing is for sure, with the rise of Sig posters, chatboards such as GFY experience heavier page views. The name of the game has now focused on catching as many eyeballs as possible. Whether through VOLUME posting or SELECTIVE (aka Shock) posting. Spam Redux: Many critics of ?sig whores? would just say that they are not much better than spammers. However, there?s 2 ways to become a Sig whore?an obvious one or a creative one. The bottomline, like with spam, is not be so obvious. Obvious sig whoring would be to just crank up your posts without paying much attention to the topic of the conversation or the development of the thread. Other ways of obvious sig whoring are posting obviously incendiary threads crafted to get an ?emotional rise? out of readers. This generates quite a lot of eyeballs but also a lot of criticism. Some Creative topics/methods of posting that can avoid many of the more common complaints against Sigwhoring. 1) Tag team posting: 1 user posts question, another posts "answer.? One variation of this is the artificial piss match. 2) Long term poster aka BRAND poster: a person posts for a long period of time and has a track record of posting informative/helpful or just plain funny/entertaining posts. This establishes a BRAND and many board readers naturally gravitate towards his posts. Examples: (informative) KRL, (entertaining) Juicylinks, and (provocative) Dark Jedi. 3) "Standards" poster: this person posts a list of quality control items re paysite design or traffic generation?establishes expertise and some sort of credibility. Great for targeted sig marketing (ie., graphics standards posters = design shop sig.) Bottomline: as long as your sigwhoring is subtle, meets a psychological need of the reader [entertainment, venting, aesthetics, etc], and generates eyeballs without generating too much complaints, you are accomplishing your objective. __________________ Need a NON-ADULT income stream? We build your YOUTUBE CHANNEL for only $20 per video! For Hire: $3/hour or $400 per month Marketing Specialist Virtual Assistants

05-06-2004, 04:41 AM	#3
RicardoB Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 2,576	Sums it up pretty well, though I think a lot of things are left out __________________ Let Me Show Ya How I Really Feel Ricardo's Rants

05-06-2004, 05:05 AM	#5
RicardoB Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 2,576	Everything is cheatable it just takes a creative mind. That's no excuse __________________ Let Me Show Ya How I Really Feel Ricardo's Rants

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05-06-2004, 05:08 AM	#7
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05-06-2004, 04:16 AM	#2
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05-06-2004, 05:03 AM	#4
DR_PHIL Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Never visits the same thread twice Posts: 4,099	sigmonkey is cheatable..it shouldnt be mentioned

05-06-2004, 05:11 AM	#8
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05-06-2004, 05:13 AM	#9
TheMob Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: 2006 Posts: 8,584	fuck sigwhores

05-06-2004, 05:37 AM	#12
lock Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 5,065	I own sigmoney.com if anyone wishes to buy it i will accept offers or insults to [email protected] __________________ Traffic.Tools - 40+ Free Tools Free.Marketing - 150+ Free Tools Submission.Tools - 20+ Free Tools

05-06-2004, 05:46 AM	#13
Dildozer Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Montreal Posts: 7,519	Fucking sigwhoring fucks. Eat shit Tbabe and Oracle Porn and all the rest of you broke ass losers. You are the worst newbs board polluting fucks around. GFY used to be so cool. Fucktards __________________ Spam link here

05-06-2004, 05:49 AM	#14
johnbosh Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: The Netherlands, Rotterdam Posts: 8,965	fun article

05-06-2004, 05:59 AM	#17
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05-06-2004, 06:02 AM	#20
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05-06-2004, 06:04 AM	#21
Firehorse Desire it and have it!!! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: www.fuckwithfire.com ICQ 512915 Posts: 30,767	Good article and overall analysis! __________________ MySweetEbony

05-06-2004, 06:28 AM	#22
Corleone C.R.E.A.M Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 15,262	nice article

05-06-2004, 07:02 AM	#24
Juicy D. Links So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: N.Y. -Long Island -- Posts: 122,992	Very nice , i am bookmarking this.... I like the 2 diff methods..... new aff signups and branding.... Very nice I like SEE SIG

05-06-2004, 07:05 AM	#25
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05-06-2004, 07:09 AM	#26
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05-06-2004, 07:11 AM	#27
Trax [----------------------] Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 14,486	you should mention my solution towards nobody sig whores in your article http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread...hreadid=282306

05-06-2004, 10:51 AM	#28
Rictor Old Timer Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 12,208	Funny stuff. I can sum up how to sell your sig in fewer words than that. 1. Speak English fluently. 2. Post on topic. 3. Post more than smilies or one and two word replies. 4. Don't start a hundred meaningless threads a day unless your name is Juicy or you will just piss people off. 5. Actually get off the boards and work, get yourself known in the industry and a company you work with might be more open to buying your sig.

05-06-2004, 11:05 AM	#29
kmanrox aka K-Man Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: The Gutter Posts: 29,292	i'm a total sigwhore __________________ Crypto HODLr Crypto mining Angel investor

05-06-2004, 11:07 AM	#30
jmarzlak Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 632	so do you wanna buy my sig? __________________ Promote Nikki and Teen Kelly

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05-06-2004, 11:37 AM	#34
EviLGuY So Fucking Banned Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: malta Posts: 12,745	Good article as usual.

05-06-2004, 11:42 AM	#35
KMR Stitch I am cool Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 14,494	I read the artlicle I don't see my self as a sig whore. No one has ever called me out for useless posts

05-06-2004, 11:49 AM	#36
Basic_man Programming King Pin Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Montreal Posts: 27,360	Stop bitching the sig whore ! __________________ UUGallery Builder - automated photo/video gallery plugin for Wordpress! Stop looking! Checkout Naked Hosting, online since 1999 !

05-06-2004, 11:51 AM	#37
MetaMan I AM WEB 2.0 Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 28,682	YAAAAA lets bring more idiots out of the wood works and allow them to make rent money off stupidity, whoppy fucky doodle!

05-06-2004, 12:02 PM	#41
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05-06-2004, 12:08 PM	#42
Nicky Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sweden Posts: 30,069	I read the article, it was good, you have some very good points in there, as long as you stick to topic and have something to say with your posts it doesnt realy matter what sig you have....... __________________ gfynicky @ gmail.com

05-06-2004, 07:19 PM	#43
$5 submissions I help you SUCCEED Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: The Pearl of the Orient Seas Posts: 32,195	Thanks for the feedback, guys. Great tips/additional points, Trax & Rictor. __________________ Need a NON-ADULT income stream? We build your YOUTUBE CHANNEL for only $20 per video! For Hire: $3/hour or $400 per month Marketing Specialist Virtual Assistants

05-07-2004, 04:28 AM	#44
Mr. Marks Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Wherever I want Posts: 7,517	All I gotta say is if you're going to SIG PROMO you better have a THICK SKIN. Cuz there's tons of whining lil player haters and dick riders up in this mofo!

05-07-2004, 08:24 AM	#45
sexsup Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,004	Good article, nothing new anyways

05-07-2004, 08:47 AM	#46
Alex Xe Guest Posts: n/a	nice article.