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  • $5 submissions
    I help you SUCCEED
    • Nov 2003
    • 32189

    #1

    Making Money through SIG WHORING (article)

    By $5 Submissions aka Gene of http://www.webmasterlabor.com Outsourced solutions for Today?s online entrepreneur.

    All these articles are archived at http://www.webmasterlabor.com/articles/

    Not until recently, a message board poster?s methods of generating revenue either involved a) posting offers or deals on webmaster boards for direct transactions or b) flying a linked graphical button or text links on one?s signature. The latter almost always consisted of either the poster?s content provider shop, design shop, or your standard webmaster referral program.

    With the advent of high traffic adult webmaster chatboards like GFY, a new revenue model appeared for webmasters and/or avid board watchers/participants. This new model revolves around personally selling (either directly, through a broker or through outsource companies) one?s signature space or Sigs. Publicly, these are often sold in blocks of time similar to renting billboard space. Privately, this advertising form can revolve around a guaranteed number of posts for a block of time (usually monthly).

    Old strategies ? New impact

    Sig promotions? guiding philosophy is not different at all from the general aims of advertising: generating direct sales or building a brand identity. These often involve differing measures of success for a particular Sig promotion campaign. To sponsors who require direct and concrete results, sig campaigns are measured in terms of affiliate sign ups. To sponsors wishing to build brand recognition, Sig campaigns are measured in terms of banner impressions. Regardless of metric used, the number of clicks a Sig generates information an advertising campaign manager can take into consideration in determining success.

    One helpful tool in keeping track of the metrics above is AdultGods.Com?s Sig Monkey signature tracking system. You can download a copy by visiting: http://adultgods.com/sigmonkey.php This helpful tool keeps track of Sig views, sig clicks, and calculates a view to click ratio.

    While Sig promotions gives webmasters a new way of making money, there are quite a few webmasters who lament this recent development since, in their view, it devaluates the value of Sigs. Sigs originally were a great way to keep track of what other webmasters are doing, hear of new programs, and basically be updated about the latest trends and technologies in the industry. With the rise of PAID Sigs, a few webmasters complain that Sigs now reflect not necessarily what?s new or exciting about the industry but which sponsors have the funds to buy a campaign. In essence, the natural diversity of signatures has greatly diminished.

    Another common complaint about the paid Sig system is the quality of posts by webmasters who post for sig views (derisively called ?SigWhores?) tend to be very low because a) of pure volume or b) shock value. Many paid posters just post for sheer volume to create an IMMERSIVE branding effect. This is not too different from driving along a short stretch of highway with massive billboards advertising the same product ever 500 meters. This approach seeks to build brand identity and recognition.

    Other paid posters post for shock value. While they post less, the threads they create are quite eye-catching or preys on psychological triggers that they generate massive responses. Subjects involving one country?s superiority over others, ethnic pride, ethnic or religious divisions, sexual problems, or personal judgments rank among the most common ways of creating threads that have ?eyeball catching? value. Other variations of selective posting are posting jokes, interesting/quirky news, or personal stories.

    One thing is for sure, with the rise of Sig posters, chatboards such as GFY experience heavier page views. The name of the game has now focused on catching as many eyeballs as possible. Whether through VOLUME posting or SELECTIVE (aka Shock) posting.

    Spam Redux:

    Many critics of ?sig whores? would just say that they are not much better than spammers. However, there?s 2 ways to become a Sig whore?an obvious one or a creative one.
    The bottomline, like with spam, is not be so obvious.

    Obvious sig whoring would be to just crank up your posts without paying much attention to the topic of the conversation or the development of the thread. Other ways of obvious sig whoring are posting obviously incendiary threads crafted to get an ?emotional rise? out of readers. This generates quite a lot of eyeballs but also a lot of criticism.

    Some Creative topics/methods of posting that can avoid many of the more common complaints against Sigwhoring.

    1) Tag team posting: 1 user posts question, another posts "answer.? One variation of this is the artificial piss match.
    2) Long term poster aka BRAND poster: a person posts for a long period of time and has a track record of posting informative/helpful or just plain funny/entertaining posts.
    This establishes a BRAND and many board readers naturally gravitate towards his posts. Examples: (informative) KRL, (entertaining) Juicylinks, and (provocative) Dark Jedi.
    3) "Standards" poster: this person posts a list of quality control items re paysite design or traffic generation?establishes expertise and some sort of credibility. Great for targeted sig marketing (ie., graphics standards posters = design shop sig.)

    Bottomline: as long as your sigwhoring is subtle, meets a psychological need of the reader [entertainment, venting, aesthetics, etc], and generates eyeballs without generating too much complaints, you are accomplishing your objective.
  • Jer
    God is Brazilian
    • Feb 2001
    • 10601

    #2
    I read the article.

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    • RicardoB
      Confirmed User
      • Jan 2004
      • 2576

      #3
      Sums it up pretty well, though I think a lot of things are left out

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      • DR_PHIL
        Confirmed User
        • Oct 2002
        • 4099

        #4
        sigmonkey is cheatable..it shouldnt be mentioned

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        • RicardoB
          Confirmed User
          • Jan 2004
          • 2576

          #5
          Everything is cheatable it just takes a creative mind.

          That's no excuse

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          • Triple 6
            Confirmed User
            • Feb 2002
            • 5394

            #6
            interesting.
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            • Lykos
              Too lazy to set a custom title
              • Apr 2003
              • 31027

              #7
              I read it,good article btw

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              • SomeCreep
                :glugglug
                • Mar 2003
                • 26118

                #8
                nice article.

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                • TheMob?
                  Confirmed User
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 8584

                  #9
                  fuck sigwhores

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                  • $5 submissions
                    I help you SUCCEED
                    • Nov 2003
                    • 32189

                    #10
                    Originally posted by TheMob?
                    fuck sigwhores
                    "While Sig promotions gives webmasters a new way of making money, there are quite a few webmasters who lament this recent development since, in their view, it devaluates the value of Sigs. Sigs originally were a great way to keep track of what other webmasters are doing, hear of new programs, and basically be updated about the latest trends and technologies in the industry. With the rise of PAID Sigs, a few webmasters complain that Sigs now reflect not necessarily what?s new or exciting about the industry but which sponsors have the funds to buy a campaign. In essence, the natural diversity of signatures has greatly diminished."

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                    • Theo
                      HAL 9000
                      • May 2001
                      • 34515

                      #11
                      Originally posted by $5 submissions
                      Examples: (informative) KRL, (entertaining) Juicylinks, and (provocative) Dark Jedi.
                      darkjedi would love this part ;-)

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                      • lock
                        Confirmed User
                        • Jul 2003
                        • 5065

                        #12
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                        • Dildozer
                          Confirmed User
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 7519

                          #13
                          Fucking sigwhoring fucks.

                          Eat shit Tbabe and Oracle Porn and all the rest of you broke ass losers. You are the worst newbs board polluting fucks around.

                          GFY used to be so cool.
                          Fucktards
                          Spam link here

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                          • johnbosh
                            Confirmed User
                            • Aug 2002
                            • 8965

                            #14
                            fun article

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                            • pornstar2pac
                              Omaha Hi/Lo
                              • Nov 2003
                              • 17380

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Dildozer
                              Fucking sigwhoring fucks.

                              Eat shit Tbabe and Oracle Porn and all the rest of you broke ass losers. You are the worst newbs board polluting fucks around.

                              GFY used to be so cool.
                              Fucktards











                              yeah,Fuck sigwhores,














                              fucktards if you ask me
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                              • TurboAngel
                                H.B.I.C.
                                • Jun 2003
                                • 30122

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
                                darkjedi would love this part ;-)

                                You are sooooo right. LMFAO


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                                • cool1
                                  sex is good
                                  • Sep 2001
                                  • 24939

                                  #17
                                  Good article

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                                  • KRL
                                    Entrepreneur
                                    • Oct 2002
                                    • 31429

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by lock
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                                    • VicMartin
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Jun 2002
                                      • 887

                                      #19
                                      Thanks for the great post.
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                                      • body
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Oct 2002
                                        • 5016

                                        #20
                                        nice article!
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                                        • Firehorse
                                          Desire it and have it!!!
                                          • Apr 2002
                                          • 30767

                                          #21
                                          Good article and overall analysis!
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                                          • Corleone
                                            C.R.E.A.M
                                            • Apr 2003
                                            • 15262

                                            #22
                                            nice article

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                                            • Spunky
                                              I need a beer
                                              • Jun 2002
                                              • 133978

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by DR_PHIL
                                              sigmonkey is cheatable..it shouldnt be mentioned
                                              It should be to point out you can't rely on it for accuracy

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                                              • juicylinks
                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                • Apr 2001
                                                • 122992

                                                #24
                                                Very nice , i am bookmarking this....

                                                I like the 2 diff methods..... new aff signups and branding....

                                                Very nice I like

                                                SEE SIG

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                                                • GigaXXX
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Apr 2004
                                                  • 872

                                                  #25
                                                  it is interesting...
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                                                  • chemicaleyes
                                                    UNSTOPPABLE
                                                    • Aug 2003
                                                    • 11569

                                                    #26
                                                    nice article as usual Gene
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                                                    • Trax
                                                      [----------------------]
                                                      • Aug 2001
                                                      • 14486

                                                      #27
                                                      you should mention my solution towards nobody sig whores in your article
                                                      http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread...hreadid=282306

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                                                      • Rictor
                                                        Old Timer
                                                        • Jan 2001
                                                        • 12208

                                                        #28
                                                        Funny stuff.

                                                        I can sum up how to sell your sig in fewer words than that.

                                                        1. Speak English fluently.
                                                        2. Post on topic.
                                                        3. Post more than smilies or one and two word replies.
                                                        4. Don't start a hundred meaningless threads a day unless your name is Juicy or you will just piss people off.
                                                        5. Actually get off the boards and work, get yourself known in the industry and a company you work with might be more open to buying your sig.

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                                                        • kmanrox
                                                          aka K-Man
                                                          • Oct 2001
                                                          • 29295

                                                          #29
                                                          i'm a total sigwhore
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                                                          • jmarzlak
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Jan 2004
                                                            • 632

                                                            #30
                                                            so do you wanna buy my sig?
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                                                            • Floridiot
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Nov 2003
                                                              • 1346

                                                              #31
                                                              gfy bought my ferrarri


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                                                              • pornstar2pac
                                                                Omaha Hi/Lo
                                                                • Nov 2003
                                                                • 17380

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by juicylinks
                                                                Very nice , i am bookmarking this....

                                                                I like the 2 diff methods..... new aff signups and branding....

                                                                Very nice I like

                                                                SEE SIG


                                                                in your siggy there is says 6k-8k and up trades. is that per day or per month?
                                                                Trump haters gonna hate. that's all they can do

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                                                                • Headless
                                                                  Registered User
                                                                  • Jan 2001
                                                                  • 26727

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by pornstar2pac
                                                                  in your siggy there is says 6k-8k and up trades. is that per day or per month?

                                                                  If you have to ask then you dont need to know.

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                                                                  • EviLGuY
                                                                    So Fucking Banned
                                                                    • Apr 2003
                                                                    • 12745

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Good article as usual.

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                                                                    • KMR Stitch
                                                                      I am cool
                                                                      • Jul 2003
                                                                      • 14494

                                                                      #35
                                                                      I read the artlicle I don't see my self as a sig whore.

                                                                      No one has ever called me out for useless posts

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                                                                      • Basic_man
                                                                        Programming King Pin
                                                                        • Oct 2003
                                                                        • 27360

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Stop bitching the sig whore !
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                                                                        • MetaMan
                                                                          I AM WEB 2.0
                                                                          • Jan 2003
                                                                          • 28682

                                                                          #37
                                                                          YAAAAA lets bring more idiots out of the wood works and allow them to make rent money off stupidity, whoppy fucky doodle!

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                                                                          • Illicit
                                                                            wtf ?
                                                                            • Dec 2003
                                                                            • 11895

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by DR_PHIL
                                                                            sigmonkey is cheatable..it shouldnt be mentioned
                                                                            you got that right ! I disabled my click tracking because it is useless information, go ahead click my sig, see if moves beyond 3
                                                                            Insert Sig Here

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                                                                            • pornstar2pac
                                                                              Omaha Hi/Lo
                                                                              • Nov 2003
                                                                              • 17380

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by ajpiii
                                                                              you got that right ! I disabled my click tracking because it is useless information, go ahead click my sig, see if moves beyond 3

                                                                              i disagree
                                                                              Trump haters gonna hate. that's all they can do

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                                                                              • Illicit
                                                                                wtf ?
                                                                                • Dec 2003
                                                                                • 11895

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by pornstar2pac
                                                                                i disagree

                                                                                werent you the one saying click my sig 40 times and you can play gfy poker ? That kind of stunt is just as bad as clicking it yourself. Its not meaningful data for the person paying you for your sig.
                                                                                Insert Sig Here

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                                                                                • Devilporn
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Apr 2004
                                                                                  • 676

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  What? We can make money with sig?

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                                                                                  • Nicky
                                                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                    • Mar 2003
                                                                                    • 30071

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    I read the article, it was good, you have some very good points in there, as long as you stick to topic and have something to say with your posts it doesnt realy matter what sig you have.......

                                                                                    gfynicky @ gmail.com

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                                                                                    • $5 submissions
                                                                                      I help you SUCCEED
                                                                                      • Nov 2003
                                                                                      • 32189

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Thanks for the feedback, guys. Great tips/additional points, Trax & Rictor.

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                                                                                      • Mr. Marks
                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                        • Jun 2001
                                                                                        • 7517

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        All I gotta say is if you're going to SIG PROMO you better have a THICK SKIN.

                                                                                        Cuz there's tons of whining lil player haters and dick riders up in this mofo!

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                                                                                        • sexsup
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • Feb 2004
                                                                                          • 3004

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Good article, nothing new anyways

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                                                                                          • Alex Xe

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            nice article.

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                                                                                            • V_RocKs
                                                                                              Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
                                                                                              • Nov 2003
                                                                                              • 32448

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Great article bro. I have no idea why CumSensei isn't writting more of his own. He is suck a whore. So are you.

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                                                                                              • polish_aristocrat
                                                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                • Jul 2002
                                                                                                • 40377

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                This is a good article, but I don't see the point of it.
                                                                                                Do you suggest that selling your sig in going to be a permanent solution for webmasters> I would rather think it is temporary.
                                                                                                The article is written in formal language - i like that - but it somehow justifies sig whoring and portraits it as just another long term money making solution for webmasters.

                                                                                                Webmaster A is doing SEO work and building AVS sites.
                                                                                                Webmaster B is submitting galleries and sig whoring.

                                                                                                I don't think it should be put like that.
                                                                                                I don't use ICQ anymore.

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                                                                                                • TheFrog
                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                  • Jan 2004
                                                                                                  • 4095

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by DR_PHIL
                                                                                                  sigmonkey is cheatable..it shouldnt be mentioned
                                                                                                  you being the one who cheated it

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                                                                                                  • polish_aristocrat
                                                                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                    • Jul 2002
                                                                                                    • 40377

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    BTW, Lensman suggested few months ago that he will make some new sig selling rules ( something like an auction system ) and perhaps disable the possibility to disable sigs ( nowadays 30% surf GFY with signatures turned off ! ) but it also hasn't been done.

                                                                                                    I know Lensman doesn't seem to care about this board so much, ( one thing that counts for him is that it is probably making more and more money each year ), but perhaps the fact that he hasn't modified the sig market and / or GFY in regards to sigs, indicates that he believes the sig market is almost dead.
                                                                                                    I don't use ICQ anymore.

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