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Old 05-04-2004, 08:45 PM   #1
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To the DUMB MOTHER FUCKERS complaining about CCBill Lately

Here's a repost of my reply to the whiners in THIS THREAD:

I am absolutely amazed at the lack of education in this industry. You mother fuckers are flat out stupid.

Consider a few things:

1. Dumb ass motherfuckers, have you noticed that the weather is getting VERY good lately? Surfers are going to the park, playing with their kids, fucking their girlfriends in the great outdoors. Does this mean traffic will go down? Not necessarily. Like you and I coming to GFY, surfers will still get their daily fix. But this time of year they're less likely to drag out their credit cards to join a site. It takes time to look through a member's area. A surfer may have a few minutes to click through to your site, but not as many are willing to spend the time looking at your member's section. Therefore, they're NOT joining, yet traffic may remain the same.

2. CCBill doesn't get paid the same amount of money when you DON'T make sales, now do they? Does it make ANY FUCKING SENSE to you that they'd purposely LOWER sales? You think Corvett takes a smaller paycheck this time of year? How about the other employees? Nope, they still need paychecks. The money to pay them is generated by YOUR site subscriptions.

3. I have some very powerful friends that do their own processing. THEIR sales are down right now too. And the funny thing is, their sales slumps just happen to follow the same "cycles" or "patterns" that mine do. One day sales ratios are FANTASTIC... the next day they're HORRIBLE. Again, consider the TIME OF YEAR.

The main reason you keep hearing: "CCBill ratios are way down for me" is really quite simple: EVERYONE WITH HALF A FUCKING BRAIN THAT'S WORTH A SHIT USES CCBILL!!

The losers that use other processors don't have enough affiliates to complain.
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Old 05-04-2004, 08:46 PM   #2
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Hmm, let me read this, then Ill get back to ya.
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Old 05-04-2004, 08:47 PM   #3
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Old 05-04-2004, 08:47 PM   #4
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Old 05-04-2004, 08:49 PM   #6
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Makes sense to me!
Already posted twice in a thread you didnt even read.

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Old 05-04-2004, 08:50 PM   #9
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donovan stop crying
I think you missed something, bro... I'm not crying... I'm telling those that ARE crying that they're stupid mother fuckers.
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Old 05-04-2004, 08:51 PM   #10
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Old 05-04-2004, 08:56 PM   #11
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2. CCBill doesn't get paid the same amount of money when you DON'T make sales, now do they? Does it make ANY FUCKING SENSE to you that they'd purposely LOWER sales? You think Corvett takes a smaller paycheck this time of year? How about the other employees? Nope, they still need paychecks. The money to pay them is generated by YOUR site subscriptions.
Now normally I dont jump into these things and Donovan generally knows his shit but this doesn't tell the whole story.

CCBill is a Merchant Processor acting on behalf of the webmaster. If their software does not REPORT a sale, they still receive funds into their accounts from the credit card companies. Hence CCBill gets richer at the expense of their clients.

Now I am not saying this is actually what is happening, but I think Donovan this is why many people are upset. CCBill needs to have immaculate software and procedure to ensure that software glitches do not occur. And I am sure they have them, but customer service is just another aspect of running their business, complaints can not simply be shrugged off. And as far as trends go, sure things can be good 1 day and bad the next.

But if you make 100 sales / day and average say 4 per hour. It doesn't make any sense to see 0 sales for 5 hours in a row. It sounds more like a processing error.
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Old 05-04-2004, 09:01 PM   #12
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Now normally I dont jump into these things and Donovan generally knows his shit but this doesn't tell the whole story.

CCBill is a Merchant Processor acting on behalf of the webmaster. If their software does not REPORT a sale, they still receive funds into their accounts from the credit card companies. Hence CCBill gets richer at the expense of their clients.

Now I am not saying this is actually what is happening, but I think Donovan this is why many people are upset. CCBill needs to have immaculate software and procedure to ensure that software glitches do not occur. And I am sure they have them, but customer service is just another aspect of running their business, complaints can not simply be shrugged off. And as far as trends go, sure things can be good 1 day and bad the next.

But if you make 100 sales / day and average say 4 per hour. It doesn't make any sense to see 0 sales for 5 hours in a row. It sounds more like a processing error.

I am a webmaster. I am also an affiliate to other webmasters. The slumps exist for both sides. Don't you think I'd notice more logins to the members area? Don't you think I'd notice NOT getting paid for new members?

I'm telling you, frustrating as it may be, CCBill isn't pulling any shady shit.

One more item to consider:

Do you think they'd risk losing their entire business to shave a few affiliates? Sorry, I don't think so.
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Old 05-04-2004, 09:03 PM   #13
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Here's a repost of my reply to the whiners in THIS THREAD:

I am absolutely amazed at the lack of education in this industry. You mother fuckers are flat out stupid.

Consider a few things:

1. Dumb ass motherfuckers, have you noticed that the weather is getting VERY good lately? Surfers are going to the park, playing with their kids, fucking their girlfriends in the great outdoors. Does this mean traffic will go down? Not necessarily. Like you and I coming to GFY, surfers will still get their daily fix. But this time of year they're less likely to drag out their credit cards to join a site. It takes time to look through a member's area. A surfer may have a few minutes to click through to your site, but not as many are willing to spend the time looking at your member's section. Therefore, they're NOT joining, yet traffic may remain the same.

2. CCBill doesn't get paid the same amount of money when you DON'T make sales, now do they? Does it make ANY FUCKING SENSE to you that they'd purposely LOWER sales? You think Corvett takes a smaller paycheck this time of year? How about the other employees? Nope, they still need paychecks. The money to pay them is generated by YOUR site subscriptions.

3. I have some very powerful friends that do their own processing. THEIR sales are down right now too. And the funny thing is, their sales slumps just happen to follow the same "cycles" or "patterns" that mine do. One day sales ratios are FANTASTIC... the next day they're HORRIBLE. Again, consider the TIME OF YEAR.

The main reason you keep hearing: "CCBill ratios are way down for me" is really quite simple: EVERYONE WITH HALF A FUCKING BRAIN THAT'S WORTH A SHIT USES CCBILL!!

The losers that use other processors don't have enough affiliates to complain.
Hey no fair making sense! You can get lynched for that around these parts I hear.
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Old 05-04-2004, 09:09 PM   #14
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Old 05-04-2004, 09:10 PM   #15
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Hey no fair making sense! You can get lynched for that around these parts I hear.
I know. People here prefer to remain ignorant. And to keep living with momma.
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Old 05-04-2004, 09:17 PM   #16
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just wait til summer tips
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sign ups have been good and solid here, and we send a lot thru ccbill
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Old 05-04-2004, 09:20 PM   #17
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......and does'nt that really cover it.


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Old 05-04-2004, 09:22 PM   #18
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CCBill is a Merchant Processor acting on behalf of the webmaster. If their software does not REPORT a sale, they still receive funds into their accounts from the credit card companies. Hence CCBill gets richer at the expense of their clients.

now i know you're an idiot who's full of shit - even speckulating that shows no brain.

if ccbill ever did that and got caught - which would be VERY easy to do checking passwords against verified users - it would be ALL over the boards. I've NEVER heard of that happening EVER - and i doubt it ever will.
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I might as repost what i posted in that thread.

I'm repostin in a repostin thread....HOw nice:

If you want to see whether or not CCbill scrubs too hard, just turn on the option where you will get an email everytime a card is denied....

It ain't the scrub, it's the sales. Say you have it set where you get email notifications for each sale and for each denial. If you normally do 10 sales a day, you'll be getting 10 email notifications a day. If all of a sudden, you're getting 2 sales a day with the same traffic, that means that you should be getting 8 denial emails if the scrub was up....Therefore you should be getting at least 10 email notifications a day regardless of the scrub...

Now if it ISN'T the scrub and you're not getting the equivalent amount of the denial emails, then it's the sales that are down.
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Old 05-04-2004, 09:33 PM   #21
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I might as repost what i posted in that thread.

I'm repostin in a repostin thread....HOw nice:

If you want to see whether or not CCbill scrubs too hard, just turn on the option where you will get an email everytime a card is denied....

It ain't the scrub, it's the sales. Say you have it set where you get email notifications for each sale and for each denial. If you normally do 10 sales a day, you'll be getting 10 email notifications a day. If all of a sudden, you're getting 2 sales a day with the same traffic, that means that you should be getting 8 denial emails if the scrub was up....Therefore you should be getting at least 10 email notifications a day regardless of the scrub...

Now if it ISN'T the scrub and you're not getting the equivalent amount of the denial emails, then it's the sales that are down.

I enjoy "scrubbing" when my little lady isn't in the mood.
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