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Old 05-03-2004, 02:55 AM   #1
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Sending Our Troops Out In Un-Armored Humvees

WTF? Just watching ABC news and they're interviewing a soldier whose speaking out and blasting the military leadership saying one of the reasons so many guys are getting killed now is because they're sent out in un-armored Humvees.

Apparently the army never installed the armor plating on the vehicles. So while they're cruising around they don't even have protection against small arms let alone the RPG's. Stupid idiots also sent home the M1A1 tanks too early and there aren't enough of them now and they're flying in more from Europe.

These Generals running the show over there are a bunch of ass clowns.

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Old 05-03-2004, 03:01 AM   #2
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Theres something happening here
What it is aint exactly clear
There's a man with a gun over there
Telling me I got to beware
I think its time we stop, children, what's that sound......

Everybody look what's going down..
Theres battle lines being drawn
Nobodys right if everybody's wrong
Young people speaking their minds
Getting so much resistance from behind
I think its time we stop, hey, what's that sound.....

Everybody look what's going down
What a field-day for the heat...
A thousand people in the street
Singing songs and carrying signs
Mostly say, hooray for our side.
It's time we stop, hey, what's that sound

Everybody look whats going down....

Paranoia strikes deep
Into your life it will creep
It starts when you're always afraid
You step out of line, the man come and take you away....

We better stop, hey, what's that sound
Everybody look whats going down
Stop, hey, what's that sound...
Everybody look what's going down
Stop, now, what's that sound...
Everybody look what's going down
Stop, children, what's that sound...

Everybody look whats going down...
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Old 05-03-2004, 03:10 AM   #3
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This whole Iraq thing has slowly been turning into a nuclear sized assfuck.
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Old 05-03-2004, 03:12 AM   #4
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Theres something happening here
What it is aint exactly clear
There's a man with a gun over there
Telling me I got to beware
I think its time we stop, children, what's that sound......

Everybody look what's going down..
Theres battle lines being drawn
Nobodys right if everybody's wrong
Young people speaking their minds
Getting so much resistance from behind
I think its time we stop, hey, what's that sound.....

Everybody look what's going down
What a field-day for the heat...
A thousand people in the street
Singing songs and carrying signs
Mostly say, hooray for our side.
It's time we stop, hey, what's that sound

Everybody look whats going down....

Paranoia strikes deep
Into your life it will creep
It starts when you're always afraid
You step out of line, the man come and take you away....

We better stop, hey, what's that sound
Everybody look whats going down
Stop, hey, what's that sound...
Everybody look what's going down
Stop, now, what's that sound...
Everybody look what's going down
Stop, children, what's that sound...

Everybody look whats going down...
Are you one of Fletch's cousins?

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Old 05-03-2004, 03:17 AM   #5
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KRL, just remember, "military intelligence" is an oxymoron.
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Old 05-03-2004, 03:20 AM   #6
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KRL, just remember, "military intelligence" is an oxymoron.
There is often something wrong with the picture!
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Old 05-03-2004, 03:20 AM   #7
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Old 05-03-2004, 03:22 AM   #8
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That is so fucked up, maybe the leaders should try driving around in Hummers with no armour plating!
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Old 05-03-2004, 03:38 AM   #9
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i was reading this shit online. 9 americans died sunday. can we either flatten these cities or get the fuck out of there? they already hate us now that they see american soldiers treating prisoners like animals. might as well turn these areas of resistance into a parking lot at this point, or, get these kids the fuck home and let iraqi's figure it out.

this whole thing stinks to high heaven. we have americans that cant eat but this is first priority? a heaping dose of shit from our gov't.
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Old 05-03-2004, 03:41 AM   #10
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i was reading this shit online. 9 americans died sunday. can we either flatten these cities or get the fuck out of there? they already hate us now that they see american soldiers treating prisoners like animals. might as well turn these areas of resistance into a parking lot at this point, or, get these kids the fuck home and let iraqi's figure it out.

this whole thing stinks to high heaven. we have americans that cant eat but this is first priority? a heaping dose of shit from our gov't.
I'd be going totally nutzo and ballistic right now if my son was over there in such a fucked up situation.

I don't know how the parents, wives, and husbands of these soldiers can even sleep at night knowing their loved ones are literally sitting ducks.

These Generals are fucking idiots. Especially that General Sanchez. He's an arrogant looking prick.
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Old 05-03-2004, 04:06 AM   #11
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That is so fucked up, maybe the leaders should try driving around in Hummers with no armour plating!

Now there's an idea!
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Old 05-03-2004, 04:16 AM   #12
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I must agree. Things have been done in such a loosely thought out way. Some of the logic this administration uses is shockingly simple. Most of their messages are like:
"Sadaam is bad. We captured him."
"Gay people should not have rights"
"Afghanistan has terrorists responsible for 9-11. Let's go to Iraq."
"Mars is fun. Let's go there."
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Old 05-03-2004, 04:27 AM   #13
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What do you mean unarmoured?


Whoohoo!!!

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Old 05-03-2004, 04:29 AM   #14
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What do you mean unarmoured?


Whoohoo!!!

how will it look like after landing? ;)
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Old 05-03-2004, 04:34 AM   #15
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What do you mean unarmoured?


Whoohoo!!!

totaly different vehicle than what the military uses

you may as well posted a pic of a mazda
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Old 05-03-2004, 07:08 AM   #16
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WTF? Just watching ABC news and they're interviewing a soldier whose speaking out and blasting the military leadership saying one of the reasons so many guys are getting killed now is because they're sent out in un-armored Humvees.

Apparently the army never installed the armor plating on the vehicles. So while they're cruising around they don't even have protection against small arms let alone the RPG's. Stupid idiots also sent home the M1A1 tanks too early and there aren't enough of them now and they're flying in more from Europe.

These Generals running the show over there are a bunch of ass clowns.

Humvees...are not APC's...and any armor they may carry would be negligible.
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Old 05-03-2004, 07:34 AM   #17
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just calm your ass down !

in no time at all they are going to start up the draft and all you brave fuckers will get your chance.


just remember................sit on your flak vest and helmet.

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There was a heated discussion about this already months ago, when US Today released an article, saying that only roughly 10-15% of all Humvees stationed in Iraq were equipped with some sort of basic armor that would protect the passengers from harm caused by mortars or bullets. I don't remember the numbers anymore, but I remember being shocked over what crappy vehicles the soldiers drove through the battle field.
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Armor is for pussies and women. Real men go to war butt naked with a knife or club. Pussy.
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Humvees...are not APC's...and any armor they may carry would be negligible.
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might as well turn these areas of resistance into a parking lot at this point, or, get these kids the fuck home and let iraqi's figure it out.
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Whoohoo!!!

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Armor is for pussies and women. Real men go to war butt naked with a knife or club. Pussy.
So why aren't you out there, Buff? Ohhh....wait... Americans aren't worth risking your life for? :P
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WTF? Just watching ABC news and they're interviewing a soldier whose speaking out and blasting the military leadership saying one of the reasons so many guys are getting killed now is because they're sent out in un-armored Humvees.

Apparently the army never installed the armor plating on the vehicles. So while they're cruising around they don't even have protection against small arms let alone the RPG's. Stupid idiots also sent home the M1A1 tanks too early and there aren't enough of them now and they're flying in more from Europe.

These Generals running the show over there are a bunch of ass clowns.



OK, heres where you need to think before you get pissed at what you see on the biased ass stupid media... The Humvees were a replacement for the "JEEP" not an "Armored Personel Carrier"... That would be a "Stryker" now... If they were still in jeeps noone would have any expectation of armor protection... but because the Humvee looks so "protective" they assume things that are incorrect.


While I'm ranting a bit... If you look at the scale of fighting in Falujah, this is not "MAJOR COMBAT" as the media would have you believe... Christ, Israel deals with that level of fighting on a daily basis... Do I think it was a bad politcal move for the president to do his stupid speech on the Carrier a year ago? Sure I do, but that does not mean he was incorrect in his statement.

One more thing before I bail on this...

Who could possibly be surprised at the level of resistance the soldiers are finding in these towns? They estimated as many as 60% of the elite troops melted into the country side a year ago...

They have no jobs and this is something they can do well. Even some of the paperwork we got from the "deck of cards" dudes including Saddam himself outlined sitting and waiting until things quieted down them attacking when folks least expected it.




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the secret to the ragheads success is the Armor plated camel.



gets great gas milage too.
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So why aren't you out there, Buff? Ohhh....wait... Americans aren't worth risking your life for? :P
I fought in Iraq in 1990-1991. Why should I have to do all the fighting everytime a war comes up?
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