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Matt 26z · 07-08-2004, 01:51 PM

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Originally posted by jayeff
The separation of rich and poor in the US has passed most of Europe and the gap is still widening.

You can't look at America's poor when judging America. Most of those people are of not only a different economic class but also a different social class that does not change with their income. That's why they remain failures.

Poor people are less likely to move up economically in the US because of what's going on in those neighborhoods that has NOTHING to do with anyone but themselves. 30% and higher high school dropout rates. Crime for sport. Gang activity for the hell of it. etc... MOST of America does not get caught up in that mess.

jayeff · 07-08-2004, 03:35 PM

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Originally posted by Matt 26z
You can't look at America's poor when judging America. Most of those people are of not only a different economic class but also a different social class that does not change with their income. That's why they remain failures.

I wasn't looking only at America's poor although it is a fact that very few indeed make it to the the middle class and you may be right as to why. But the statement that you are "3-4 times more likely to slip down the economic ladder" (in relation to your parents' economic status) refered solely to the middle class. And it is the middle class which is shrinking.

You can consider it good, bad, or of no consequence, but one of the differences between the US and Europe is not the divide between the wealthiest and the poorest (those stats are similar), but that a much higher ratio of people in the US are poor. Thus the middle class is smaller, but wealthier on a per head basis. That could be part of the reason why it is taking so long for the "work hard my son and you can be anything you want" myth to die.

Of course some individuals do go from rags to riches. But the US is no longer the entrepreneur-friendly country it once was and overall, the statistics for upward movement are now pretty much in line with other developed countries.

Pics Traffic · 07-08-2004, 03:46 PM

In the US people are very competive and they work hard.

ever been in US?

latisha johnson puts about 30 minutes a day ans still gets her paycheck....

get real !!!!

EZRhino · 07-08-2004, 03:56 PM

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Originally posted by Odin88
Alot of America's great scientists, etc that took the risks and catapualted the USA into world domination post-WWII where not American at all - but German.

But they all became American citizens

Corleone · 07-08-2004, 03:57 PM

EZRhino · 07-08-2004, 03:58 PM

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Originally posted by =^..^=
The reason US is number 1 is because they have corrupt leaders who bash smaller economies into submission.
End of story

I dont see anything wrong with that.

flashfire · 07-08-2004, 04:10 PM

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Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
It is often hard to understand for people outside the US, but following this board closely gives you a good picture of that.
In the US people are very competive and they work hard.
In rest of the world, people don't like taking risk, they want safety most of all and prefer to have more spare time rather than making more money.
Furthermore, in the US, someone who is succesfull is admired by other people. They work hard and want to achieved what he had achieved.
In the rest of the world, people who are succesfull are often perceived as thiefes and in some countries you even feel guilty if you make lots of money.
Just an observation - these are good known facts but this board proves them.

posts like this are why the US isnt no 1

baddog · 07-08-2004, 04:37 PM

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Originally posted by RicardoB
Need an example? I give you two The Hun and Worldsex the 2 biggest TGP's online both owned by Dutch people.

reynold · 07-09-2004, 12:29 AM

the reason the US is no 1 ia because all the great hackers and wise businessman is here...
man wake up...come live up here a while and you'll realize that US is just like ever country out there...full of shit

it does not really make it that commendable

ramtar · 07-09-2004, 12:35 AM

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Originally posted by Corleone

proof that you dont have to be fat to be succesful

bill gates is not the best example, he only proof that american only cares about money no matter if it works or not, which is not 100% true in all the areas of researching, so get a better example, because this one destroy your theory

EviLSuperstaR · 07-09-2004, 02:11 AM

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Originally posted by =^..^=
The reason US is number 1 is because they have corrupt leaders who bash smaller economies into submission.
End of story

So true

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07-09-2004, 12:29 AM	#109
reynold Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Global Traveler Posts: 51,271	the reason the US is no 1 ia because all the great hackers and wise businessman is here... man wake up...come live up here a while and you'll realize that US is just like ever country out there...full of shit it does not really make it that commendable