The reason the US is no 1

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  • Matt 26z
    So Fucking Banned
    • Apr 2002
    • 18481
    #101
    Originally posted by jayeff
    The separation of rich and poor in the US has passed most of Europe and the gap is still widening.
    You can't look at America's poor when judging America. Most of those people are of not only a different economic class but also a different social class that does not change with their income. That's why they remain failures.

    Poor people are less likely to move up economically in the US because of what's going on in those neighborhoods that has NOTHING to do with anyone but themselves. 30% and higher high school dropout rates. Crime for sport. Gang activity for the hell of it. etc... MOST of America does not get caught up in that mess.

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      • jayeff
        Confirmed User
        • May 2001
        • 2944
        #102
        Originally posted by Matt 26z
        You can't look at America's poor when judging America. Most of those people are of not only a different economic class but also a different social class that does not change with their income. That's why they remain failures.
        I wasn't looking only at America's poor although it is a fact that very few indeed make it to the the middle class and you may be right as to why. But the statement that you are "3-4 times more likely to slip down the economic ladder" (in relation to your parents' economic status) refered solely to the middle class. And it is the middle class which is shrinking.

        You can consider it good, bad, or of no consequence, but one of the differences between the US and Europe is not the divide between the wealthiest and the poorest (those stats are similar), but that a much higher ratio of people in the US are poor. Thus the middle class is smaller, but wealthier on a per head basis. That could be part of the reason why it is taking so long for the "work hard my son and you can be anything you want" myth to die.

        Of course some individuals do go from rags to riches. But the US is no longer the entrepreneur-friendly country it once was and overall, the statistics for upward movement are now pretty much in line with other developed countries.

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          • Pics Traffic
            Confirmed User
            • Jun 2004
            • 3055
            #103
            In the US people are very competive and they work hard.


            ever been in US?

            latisha johnson puts about 30 minutes a day ans still gets her paycheck....

            get real !!!!
            My Network Is Waiting For Your Fuckin' Trade!

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              • EZRhino
                Confirmed User
                • Jul 2003
                • 6258
                #104
                Originally posted by Odin88
                Alot of America's great scientists, etc that took the risks and catapualted the USA into world domination post-WWII where not American at all - but German.
                But they all became American citizens

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                  • Corleone
                    C.R.E.A.M
                    • Apr 2003
                    • 15262
                    #105

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                      • EZRhino
                        Confirmed User
                        • Jul 2003
                        • 6258
                        #106
                        Originally posted by =^..^=
                        The reason US is number 1 is because they have corrupt leaders who bash smaller economies into submission.
                        End of story
                        I dont see anything wrong with that.

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                          • flashfire
                            ICQ 1 6 7 8 5 3 4 9 2
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 13098
                            #107
                            Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
                            It is often hard to understand for people outside the US, but following this board closely gives you a good picture of that.
                            In the US people are very competive and they work hard.
                            In rest of the world, people don't like taking risk, they want safety most of all and prefer to have more spare time rather than making more money.
                            Furthermore, in the US, someone who is succesfull is admired by other people. They work hard and want to achieved what he had achieved.
                            In the rest of the world, people who are succesfull are often perceived as thiefes and in some countries you even feel guilty if you make lots of money.
                            Just an observation - these are good known facts but this board proves them.

                            posts like this are why the US isnt no 1

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                              • baddog
                                So Fucking Banned
                                • Apr 2001
                                • 107089
                                #108
                                Originally posted by RicardoB
                                Need an example? I give you two The Hun and Worldsex the 2 biggest TGP's online both owned by Dutch people.

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                                  • reynold
                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                    • Oct 2002
                                    • 51271
                                    #109
                                    the reason the US is no 1 ia because all the great hackers and wise businessman is here...
                                    man wake up...come live up here a while and you'll realize that US is just like ever country out there...full of shit

                                    it does not really make it that commendable

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                                      • ramtar
                                        Registered User
                                        • Aug 2002
                                        • 117
                                        #110
                                        Originally posted by Corleone


                                        proof that you dont have to be fat to be succesful
                                        bill gates is not the best example, he only proof that american only cares about money no matter if it works or not, which is not 100% true in all the areas of researching, so get a better example, because this one destroy your theory

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                                          • EviLSuperstaR
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • May 2004
                                            • 804
                                            #111
                                            Originally posted by =^..^=
                                            The reason US is number 1 is because they have corrupt leaders who bash smaller economies into submission.
                                            End of story

                                            So true

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