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DrewKole · 04-21-2004, 10:23 AM

It seems both Epoch and CCBill are out to fuck over me right now.

Jettis any better?

I need to switch all my promotion away from these 2 cockknockers for now.

m00d · 04-21-2004, 10:25 AM

Have scrubs gone insane for everyone? What's up CCbill? Help a brother out . .

TheDoc · 04-21-2004, 10:29 AM

aye its fucking nuts..

78% denials today
34% yesterday
36% on the 19th

What is fucking nuts is I have a .09% CB ratio, hell my refunds are under 1% and yet I still get my balls scrubed with a brilo pad.

m00d · 04-21-2004, 10:30 AM

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Originally posted by TheDoc
aye its fucking nuts..

78% denials today
34% yesterday
36% on the 19th

What is fucking nuts is I have a .09% CB ratio, hell my refunds are under 1% and yet I still get my balls scrubed with a brilo pad.

oh my god

LadyMischief · 04-21-2004, 10:31 AM

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Originally posted by TheDoc
aye its fucking nuts..

78% denials today
34% yesterday
36% on the 19th

What is fucking nuts is I have a .09% CB ratio, hell my refunds are under 1% and yet I still get my balls scrubed with a brilo pad.

Yeah, seems the more sales you make with less chargebacks or refunds, the harder they scrub you.

DreamCumTrue · 04-21-2004, 10:32 AM

Jettis is a great company!

Rankings · 04-21-2004, 10:33 AM

good luck with that buddy

DrewKole · 04-21-2004, 10:33 AM

Someone needs to get their shit together, this is completely unacceptable...

Best part is, no CCBill or Epoch rep ever bothers to respond to these threads... which they are bound to fucking read.

These guys piss me off to no end.

TheDoc · 04-21-2004, 10:34 AM

Maybe I should set-up each site with 2 different VISA contacts, split the joins up so it lowers the total sales and maybe I can slip under the RAPE-o-meter some.

GoGoBar · 04-21-2004, 10:35 AM

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TheDoc · 04-21-2004, 10:36 AM

I use NATS

Epoch, to CCbill, CC for both and checking and Web900..

If Epoch kick'em, only about 10% will make it through CCbill.

TaDoW · 04-21-2004, 10:39 AM

I don't know, CCbill has been good to us lately ... some wonkey #'s over the past 2 weeks, and vastly changing polarity of "popular" join times ... (for example, this week it seems way more joins come in between 10 am and 2 pm, and last week the more popular time was late late evening/early morngin, and before that we hardly had any joins before noon, and all of a sudden they'd come pouring in) I can understand trends, but they usually change slowly over a period of weeks or months, not days ...

Epoch, on the other hand, has taken 24 hours to respond to a password request by me, and their call in "support" staff is next to worthless, all they say is "send an email" ... wtf? Ain't nuthin but love guys - but that seriously has to be taken care of. CCbill's support staff will pick their nose and eat it for you if you want them to.

corvette · 04-21-2004, 10:40 AM

Drew, im here

we had some intermittent network issues yesterday, not sure if that is what you may be referring to?

if you would like your declines looked at over a certain period of time, icq me and I will make sure that this gets done

Nothing has recently changed anywhere as far as scrubbing goes

45471840

TheDoc · 04-21-2004, 10:41 AM

Good'ol CCbill steps up the plate

Va2k · 04-21-2004, 10:44 AM

Yea I've gotten alot of declines to day and failed rebills... Hope they fix this shit asap...

TOM

m00d · 04-21-2004, 10:44 AM

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Originally posted by corvett

Nothing has recently changed anywhere as far as scrubbing goes

ace0r · 04-21-2004, 10:45 AM

may want to look into adult merchant accts

corvette · 04-21-2004, 10:46 AM

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Originally posted by m00d

what can i help with?

Trax · 04-21-2004, 10:47 AM

whoever says that there are no changes is not telling thruth

scrubbing has been way worse during the last days

corvette · 04-21-2004, 10:49 AM

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Originally posted by Trax
whoever says that there are no changes is not telling thruth

scrubbing has been way worse during the last days

im saying it and i try to be truthful; if you want to talk about your declines, icq me

TaDoW · 04-21-2004, 10:51 AM

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Originally posted by Trax
whoever says that there are no changes is not telling thruth

scrubbing has been way worse during the last days

I'd at least talk with corvett first before making statements like that. he's a very knowledgable guy and can help you out a lot. It never hurts to have a good relationship with your processor.

Va2k · 04-21-2004, 10:54 AM

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Originally posted by TaDoW

I'd at least talk with corvett first before making statements like that. he's a very knowledgable guy and can help you out a lot. It never hurts to have a good relationship with your processor.

I agree but ass kissing just sucks

J/k just having a little fun

fletcher · 04-21-2004, 10:57 AM

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Originally posted by TaDoW

I'd at least talk with corvett first before making statements like that. he's a very knowledgable guy and can help you out a lot. It never hurts to have a good relationship with your processor.

Agreed, Mark is a great guy and has always been more than helpful.

TaDoW · 04-21-2004, 10:57 AM

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Originally posted by va2k

I agree but ass kissing just sucks

J/k just having a little fun

hehe =) I've always been an ass kisser .... helped get me 4.0's in a lot of college classes when I deserved like a 3.5 ... helps me out every day in business ... saved me twice from being canned in middle school. that in itself is worth it

LadyMischief · 04-21-2004, 10:58 AM

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Originally posted by DrewKole
Someone needs to get their shit together, this is completely unacceptable...

Best part is, no CCBill or Epoch rep ever bothers to respond to these threads... which they are bound to fucking read.

These guys piss me off to no end.

Yeah they do hide from it, or make excuses

LadyMischief · 04-21-2004, 10:59 AM

Except corvett, he's brave

TaDoW · 04-21-2004, 11:02 AM

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Originally posted by LadyMischief
Except corvett, he's brave

tee hee =)

Va2k · 04-21-2004, 11:03 AM

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Originally posted by TaDoW

hehe =) I've always been an ass kisser .... helped get me 4.0's in a lot of college classes when I deserved like a 3.5 ... helps me out every day in business ... saved me twice from being canned in middle school. that in itself is worth it

See that is why I like you, you can take a joke and laugh at it

TheDoc · 04-21-2004, 11:04 AM

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Originally posted by TaDoW

tee hee =)

Are you a guy? If so you can't say tee hee.. It's just not right.

notjoe · 04-21-2004, 11:07 AM

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Originally posted by DrewKole
It seems both Epoch and CCBill are out to fuck over me right now.

Jettis any better?

I need to switch all my promotion away from these 2 cockknockers for now.

Not me, I use someone other than anyone you've listed for my credit card processing.... want to give my Pay Per View site a shot and see how well it does?

Hit me up on ICQ at 5956902

DrewKole · 04-21-2004, 11:07 AM

I just think the whole mentality of the processors in general is stupid.

Im sorry, but when you're used to doing 1:150, day in and day out, and then a couple days pop up at 0:4000. Something is wrong, and someone is doing their job wrong.

To say, everything is running fine, etc. etc. is an insult to our intelligence.

How bout someone actually cough up some fucking truth around here, and say something like

"Well, we've been getting alot of fraud on some of our accounts, and in order to keep ourselves under the Visa radar, we decided to go ahead and just deny 90% of all transactions for the next two days. That will go ahead and give us a little bit better daily average of chargebacks."

And don't even bother to quote me the law of averages.

Those 3 words are severely played out.

Im just venting, my foodstamps are a week late here in Texas. =(

TaDoW · 04-21-2004, 11:08 AM

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Originally posted by TheDoc

Are you a guy? If so you can't say tee hee.. It's just not right.

lol =) the pillsbury dough boy is a guy and he says it all the time!

TheDoc · 04-21-2004, 11:18 AM

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Originally posted by DrewKole
I just think the whole mentality of the processors in general is stupid.

Im sorry, but when you're used to doing 1:150, day in and day out, and then a couple days pop up at 0:4000. Something is wrong, and someone is doing their job wrong.

To say, everything is running fine, etc. etc. is an insult to our intelligence.

How bout someone actually cough up some fucking truth around here, and say something like

"Well, we've been getting alot of fraud on some of our accounts, and in order to keep ourselves under the Visa radar, we decided to go ahead and just deny 90% of all transactions for the next two days. That will go ahead and give us a little bit better daily average of chargebacks."

And don't even bother to quote me the law of averages.

Those 3 words are severely played out.

Im just venting, my foodstamps are a week late here in Texas. =(

I agree 100%...

No way in gods earth that nobody changes anything and declines go from 3-10% all the way up to 30%+ and in a few days it will drop back down as if nothing happened.

I'm starting to think scrub is 100% chance on 'possible good' transactions. Of course known bad or blocked countries are dropped from the start. The rest is a random role of the dice, you either crap out or keep going. Sometimes it's all CRAP!

TheDoc · 04-21-2004, 11:20 AM

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Originally posted by TaDoW

lol =) the pillsbury dough boy is a guy and he says it all the time!

Do you look like him?

TaDoW · 04-21-2004, 11:22 AM

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Originally posted by TheDoc

Do you look like him?

hmm... I'm ghostly white because I live in seattle ... and a little pudgy around the mid section ... but although BrettJ likes to poke me in the tummy (NOT LIKE THAT!) until I say "Tee Hee" I don't think I'm that pudgy

fletcher · 04-21-2004, 11:50 AM

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Originally posted by TaDoW

hmm... I'm ghostly white because I live in seattle ... and a little pudgy around the mid section ... but although BrettJ likes to poke me in the tummy (NOT LIKE THAT!) until I say "Tee Hee" I don't think I'm that pudgy

"Not like that" my ass.

TheDoc · 04-21-2004, 11:58 AM

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Originally posted by fletcher

"Not like that" my ass.

You mean "his" ass, right?

BradM · 04-21-2004, 11:59 AM

corvette · 04-21-2004, 12:14 PM

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Originally posted by DrewKole
"Well, we've been getting alot of fraud on some of our accounts, and in order to keep ourselves under the Visa radar, we decided to go ahead and just deny 90% of all transactions for the next two days. That will go ahead and give us a little bit better daily average of chargebacks."

drew, contrary to popular belief, at least with CCBill, we do not adjust the scrubbing on a daily basis to help alleviate chargebacks that may come in a few weeks or months later.

And I do agree with you, if a ratio suddenly drops, then I think that it would become a priority to investigate it; absolutely

However, by investigate, I don?t mean to stop at the processor, I mean to look at your server traffic logs to see if your hits to the ?join? page decreased, or are the # or percentage of declines up or down, or is there a specific decline reason, does your card go through, etc?.continue the troubleshooting rather than stop at ?must be the scrub?

The process is completely auditable, every decline and the reason for which can be retrieved

icq me

Ray@TastyDollars · 04-21-2004, 12:16 PM

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Originally posted by TheDoc
aye its fucking nuts..

78% denials today
34% yesterday
36% on the 19th

What is fucking nuts is I have a .09% CB ratio, hell my refunds are under 1% and yet I still get my balls scrubed with a brilo pad.

Fuck!

04-21-2004, 10:23 AM	#1
DrewKole Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 5,193	Who's scrubbing the least right now? It seems both Epoch and CCBill are out to fuck over me right now. Jettis any better? I need to switch all my promotion away from these 2 cockknockers for now.

04-21-2004, 10:29 AM	#3
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04-21-2004, 10:34 AM	#9
TheDoc Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Currently Incognito Posts: 13,827	Maybe I should set-up each site with 2 different VISA contacts, split the joins up so it lowers the total sales and maybe I can slip under the RAPE-o-meter some. __________________ ~TheDoc - ICQ7765825 It's all disambiguation

04-21-2004, 10:36 AM	#11
TheDoc Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Currently Incognito Posts: 13,827	I use NATS Epoch, to CCbill, CC for both and checking and Web900.. If Epoch kick'em, only about 10% will make it through CCbill. __________________ ~TheDoc - ICQ7765825 It's all disambiguation

04-21-2004, 10:25 AM	#2
m00d So Fucking Banned Join Date: May 2002 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 3,129	Have scrubs gone insane for everyone? What's up CCbill? Help a brother out . .

04-21-2004, 10:32 AM	#6
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04-21-2004, 10:39 AM	#12
TaDoW Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Where It Rains Posts: 3,875	I don't know, CCbill has been good to us lately ... some wonkey #'s over the past 2 weeks, and vastly changing polarity of "popular" join times ... (for example, this week it seems way more joins come in between 10 am and 2 pm, and last week the more popular time was late late evening/early morngin, and before that we hardly had any joins before noon, and all of a sudden they'd come pouring in) I can understand trends, but they usually change slowly over a period of weeks or months, not days ... Epoch, on the other hand, has taken 24 hours to respond to a password request by me, and their call in "support" staff is next to worthless, all they say is "send an email" ... wtf? Ain't nuthin but love guys - but that seriously has to be taken care of. CCbill's support staff will pick their nose and eat it for you if you want them to. __________________ -TaDoW I've Upped My Standards, Up Yours! Last edited by TaDoW; 04-21-2004 at 10:40 AM..

04-21-2004, 10:40 AM	#13
corvette Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: scottsdale Posts: 7,880	Drew, im here we had some intermittent network issues yesterday, not sure if that is what you may be referring to? if you would like your declines looked at over a certain period of time, icq me and I will make sure that this gets done Nothing has recently changed anywhere as far as scrubbing goes 45471840 __________________ If you need a good company for check writing services, then check out checkissuing, and for webhosting, check out Phoenix NAP

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TheDoc Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Currently Incognito Posts: 13,827	Good'ol CCbill steps up the plate __________________ ~TheDoc - ICQ7765825 It's all disambiguation

04-21-2004, 10:44 AM	#15
Va2k I’m still alive barley. Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Va Posts: 10,060	Yea I've gotten alot of declines to day and failed rebills... Hope they fix this shit asap... TOM __________________

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04-21-2004, 10:47 AM	#19
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04-21-2004, 11:07 AM	#31
DrewKole Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 5,193	I just think the whole mentality of the processors in general is stupid. Im sorry, but when you're used to doing 1:150, day in and day out, and then a couple days pop up at 0:4000. Something is wrong, and someone is doing their job wrong. To say, everything is running fine, etc. etc. is an insult to our intelligence. How bout someone actually cough up some fucking truth around here, and say something like "Well, we've been getting alot of fraud on some of our accounts, and in order to keep ourselves under the Visa radar, we decided to go ahead and just deny 90% of all transactions for the next two days. That will go ahead and give us a little bit better daily average of chargebacks." And don't even bother to quote me the law of averages. Those 3 words are severely played out. Im just venting, my foodstamps are a week late here in Texas. =( Last edited by DrewKole; 04-21-2004 at 11:08 AM..

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