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SteveLightspeed · 04-05-2004, 09:59 AM

.... looks alot like the OLD Ibill.

Met with them at the Phoenix Forum this week. Here is a sample of the conversation:

me: "Is there ANY CHANCE that I will be paid the money you owe me?"

Garrett Bender: "No."

Well, thanks "New Ibill" for the "New buttfucking"... It feels a lot like the "Old buttfucking".

When I'm asked which processor I trust and recommend, you can be sure I won't say Ibill.

Steve Lightspeed

JFK · 04-05-2004, 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lightspeed
.... looks alot like the OLD Ibill.

Met with them at the Phoenix Forum this week. Here is a sample of the conversation:

me: "Is there ANY CHANCE that I will be paid the money you owe me?"

Garrett Bender: "No."

Well, thanks "New Ibill" for the "New buttfucking"... It feels a lot like the "Old buttfucking".

When I'm asked which processor I trust and recommend, you can be sure I won't say Ibill.

Steve Lightspeed

Sorry to hear that Steve............

Webasic · 04-05-2004, 10:03 AM

you have to admit...they are good at buttfucking though

Corleone · 04-05-2004, 10:14 AM

that sucks

NaughtyJenn · 04-05-2004, 10:16 AM

that takes balls walking up to someone u owe money to and pitch them an idea..

jimmyf · 04-05-2004, 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lightspeed
.... looks alot like the OLD Ibill.

Met with them at the Phoenix Forum this week. Here is a sample of the conversation:

me: "Is there ANY CHANCE that I will be paid the money you owe me?"

Garrett Bender: "No."

Well, thanks "New Ibill" for the "New buttfucking"... It feels a lot like the "Old buttfucking".

When I'm asked which processor I trust and recommend, you can be sure I won't say Ibill.

Steve Lightspeed

Why did you even meet with them. I'd gave' em a

from across the room.

Huggles · 04-05-2004, 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lightspeed
.... looks alot like the OLD Ibill.

Met with them at the Phoenix Forum this week. Here is a sample of the conversation:

me: "Is there ANY CHANCE that I will be paid the money you owe me?"

Garrett Bender: "No."

Well, thanks "New Ibill" for the "New buttfucking"... It feels a lot like the "Old buttfucking".

When I'm asked which processor I trust and recommend, you can be sure I won't say Ibill.

Steve Lightspeed

Hahahaha.... fuuuuck

I got fucked on Website Billing back in the day...

tbabe · 04-05-2004, 10:25 AM

thats from the web900 fucking a while back?

waterboy · 04-05-2004, 10:39 AM

Waaaaaa Waaaaaa Waaaaaaa

Hank_Heartland · 04-05-2004, 10:40 AM

This thread cracks me up...Tooo funny

SteveLightspeed · 04-05-2004, 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by tbabe
thats from the web900 fucking a while back?

Yeah, and their reasoning for not paying me was:

"But then we'd have to pay everyone."

oh no, not that!

Can't wait to see Ibill at the next convention

tbabe · 04-05-2004, 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lightspeed

Yeah, and their reasoning for not paying me was:

"But then we'd have to pay everyone."

oh no, not that!

Can't wait to see Ibill at the next convention

LOL

If i give one to you, i have to give one to everyone.

There was a great chip commercial few years ago in canada with that line.

Trax · 04-05-2004, 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lightspeed

Yeah, and their reasoning for not paying me was:

"But then we'd have to pay everyone."

oh no, not that!

Can't wait to see Ibill at the next convention

now that arguement convinced me

TheDoc · 04-05-2004, 10:48 AM

Fuck'em, exactly why you will never see them on my join pages.

JFK · 04-05-2004, 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lightspeed

Yeah, and their reasoning for not paying me was:

"But then we'd have to pay everyone."

oh no, not that!

Can't wait to see Ibill at the next convention

Can You persue the matter legally ? For Defrauding you ?

tony286 · 04-05-2004, 10:52 AM

Ibill has done right by us and I expect that to continue

SteveLightspeed · 04-05-2004, 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by tony404
Ibill has done right by us and I expect that to continue

So you're the one! We found him! Here's the guy that Ibill has done right by!

Good luck, I hope for you that you are never in my spot with them.

Steve Lightspeed

msg · 04-05-2004, 11:03 AM

no problems here either.. sorry about your luck.

turbomax · 04-05-2004, 11:05 AM

fuckin sucks I just submitted to them also

magicmike · 04-05-2004, 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lightspeed

So you're the one! We found him! Here's the guy that Ibill has done right by!

What a find.

Had a great time in Phoenix, thanks for the hospitality suite parties Steve, too bad you had those fuckers crashing it.

KRL · 04-05-2004, 11:13 AM

Time to call Shapiro.

Hanging Judge · 04-05-2004, 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by tony404
Ibill has done right by us and I expect that to continue

Too funny! I love good sarcasm....

High Quality · 04-05-2004, 11:50 AM

Ibill sucks, always have.

Hanging Judge · 04-05-2004, 11:52 AM

As an aside....

HUGE Thanks Steve for the Trampoline and hospitality...you guys always rock Phoenix, but really out did yourself this year....

Hank_Heartland · 04-05-2004, 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lightspeed
.... looks alot like the OLD Ibill.

Met with them at the Phoenix Forum this week. Here is a sample of the conversation:

me: "Is there ANY CHANCE that I will be paid the money you owe me?"

Garrett Bender: "No."

Well, thanks "New Ibill" for the "New buttfucking"... It feels a lot like the "Old buttfucking".

When I'm asked which processor I trust and recommend, you can be sure I won't say Ibill.

Steve Lightspeed

Steve I have only one thing to add...checks go bounce....bounce...bounce

Rich · 04-05-2004, 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lightspeed

So you're the one! We found him! Here's the guy that Ibill has done right by!

Good luck, I hope for you that you are never in my spot with them.

Steve Lightspeed

lol

SleazyDream · 04-05-2004, 12:33 PM

now that's a bitch slap.

i love it when the big boys play rough.

noice.

chowda · 04-05-2004, 12:36 PM

just ask them to shave 1% off everyone's processing and they can pay off what they owe u.

tony286 · 04-05-2004, 04:19 PM

They didnt get paid on the 900 number , so how do you expect them to pay you? When I was in sales until the check came in I didnt get paid, the check didnt come my check didnt come. Also its common sense, you do 900 and then stop getting paid , the first time that happens you take that option off. I never understand people that dont get paid and continue offering that service and complain they didnt get paid . lol They pay on time every time, the first rep we had sucked .We now have Bari and she is great, gave us her ICQ . She is right on any problem or question that comes up. Ibill was the only one to do a web meeting when the Mastercard thing came up and answer any questions posed to them.

Raven · 04-05-2004, 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lightspeed
.... looks alot like the OLD Ibill.

Met with them at the Phoenix Forum this week. Here is a sample of the conversation:

me: "Is there ANY CHANCE that I will be paid the money you owe me?"

Garrett Bender: "No."

Well, thanks "New Ibill" for the "New buttfucking"... It feels a lot like the "Old buttfucking".

When I'm asked which processor I trust and recommend, you can be sure I won't say Ibill.

Steve Lightspeed

I was truly surprised to see them there, Steve.

They pretty much sounded like the same IBill people who were in Vancouver, back in October.

So, if it looks like a rat and talks like a rat......

Good seeing you, Steve!

Ic3m4nZ · 04-05-2004, 04:55 PM

Ibill rocks for me checks are always on time can't complain

doober · 04-05-2004, 05:29 PM

my own ibill experience is that its been 2 + weeks they are trying to setup billing for one of my paysites....
not impressive thats for sure

Doctor Dre · 04-05-2004, 05:53 PM

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Originally posted by Webasic
you have to admit...they are good at buttfucking though

Definitly

So many bad stories about them !

Doctor Dre · 04-05-2004, 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lightspeed

Yeah, and their reasoning for not paying me was:

"But then we'd have to pay everyone."

oh no, not that!

Can't wait to see Ibill at the next convention

hahahahha ! Don't make something when you're not gonna pay . I'm sure they lost more business then they would have done paying every1

Doctor Dre · 04-05-2004, 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by tony404
Ibill has done right by us and I expect that to continue

Who are you ? An affiliate getting checks ?

Sly_RJ · 04-05-2004, 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by tony404
They didnt get paid on the 900 number , so how do you expect them to pay you?

So you're saying iBill hasn't been paid in years? They're making no money? They shut down operations years ago?

BuckLover · 04-05-2004, 06:01 PM

I used I bill! the ratios suck but they seem to pay on time!

quiet · 04-05-2004, 06:10 PM

ibill helped to make me a multi-millionaire. they've continued to send beautiful wires to me, every two weeks, since 1997. there were some rough times, but i never missed a payment. and things have been very smooth as of late.

SteveLightspeed · 04-05-2004, 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet
ibill helped to make me a multi-millionaire. they've continued to send beautiful wires to me, every two weeks, since 1997. there were some rough times, but i never missed a payment. and things have been very smooth as of late.

With stories like this, it makes it hard to understand why they would be so tight with a relatively small amount of money?

quiet · 04-05-2004, 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lightspeed

With stories like this, it makes it hard to understand why they would be so tight with a relatively small amount of money?

i agree, it was a bad move on their part. i lost some 900 money, but it was a joke, because we did not push 900 at all.

i definitely feel for those who lost substantial 900 revenue.

Giorgio_Xo · 04-05-2004, 06:23 PM

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss

Giorgio_Xo · 04-05-2004, 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet
ibill helped to make me a multi-millionaire. they've continued to send beautiful wires to me, every two weeks, since 1997. there were some rough times, but i never missed a payment. and things have been very smooth as of late.

You don't advantage of that and move to warmer climes!

LadyTiger1969 · 04-05-2004, 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lightspeed

Yeah, and their reasoning for not paying me was:

"But then we'd have to pay everyone."

oh no, not that!

Can't wait to see Ibill at the next convention

OMG! Are you serious? They said that! I thought they were trustworthy and stuff!

Lace · 04-05-2004, 06:35 PM

Wow, looks like im pulling links to sponsers who use Ibill.

quiet · 04-05-2004, 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BMI Lace
Wow, looks like im pulling links to sponsers who use Ibill.

lol the web900 thing went down a LONG time ago. but pull those links...

jimmyf · 04-05-2004, 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet
ibill helped to make me a multi-millionaire. they've continued to send beautiful wires to me, every two weeks, since 1997. there were some rough times, but i never missed a payment. and things have been very smooth as of late.

you are next. Be reading your ibill post one day.

icedemon · 04-05-2004, 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by tony404
They didnt get paid on the 900 number , so how do you expect them to pay you? When I was in sales until the check came in I didnt get paid, the check didnt come my check didnt come. Also its common sense, you do 900 and then stop getting paid , the first time that happens you take that option off. I never understand people that dont get paid and continue offering that service and complain they didnt get paid . lol They pay on time every time, the first rep we had sucked .We now have Bari and she is great, gave us her ICQ . She is right on any problem or question that comes up. Ibill was the only one to do a web meeting when the Mastercard thing came up and answer any questions posed to them.

Everyhahahaha had a contract with iBill, not ATT&T (or who ever was doing the 900 Billing for iBill). iBill should of at least setup some type of monthly payment to pay everyhahahaha what they owe(d). Alot of companies still payed out to their affiliates for the 900 Billing. That was to keep their reputation good. iBill apperantly doesn't care about their reputation.

My billing company will be offering 900 Billing. If I don't get the money from MCI, I would still payout what is owed. Even if it meant working out a payment plan with each company. It's just bad business, to say to your clients "tough luck", but we want to keep you as a customer.

tony286 · 04-05-2004, 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by icedemon

Everyhahahaha had a contract with iBill, not ATT&T (or who ever was doing the 900 Billing for iBill). iBill should of at least setup some type of monthly payment to pay everyhahahaha what they owe(d). Alot of companies still payed out to their affiliates for the 900 Billing. That was to keep their reputation good. iBill apperantly doesn't care about their reputation.

My billing company will be offering 900 Billing. If I don't get the money from MCI, I would still payout what is owed. Even if it meant working out a payment plan with each company. It's just bad business, to say to your clients "tough luck", but we want to keep you as a customer.

Have you asked your billing company if they dont get paid by the phone company will you still get your money ? I highly doubt it. These billing companies process transactions, they are not a insurance policy. I will go back to the sales analogy, if you are in a commision setting until the customer pays you dont get paid. Its that simple and I go back to my original statement if you didnt get paid for 900 why did you keep the option up?

icedemon · 04-05-2004, 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by tony404
Have you asked your billing company if they dont get paid by the phone company will you still get your money ? I highly doubt it.

When I was talking about my billing company, I was talking about the billing company I own "PayWide Billing". If my billing company "PayWide Billing" didn't get paid for 900 Billing like what happened to iBill, my company would still payout to my customers. My customers have a contract with my company, not the company that my company does the 900 Billing through.

Quote:

Originally posted by tony404
These billing companies process transactions, they are not a insurance policy. I will go back to the sales analogy, if you are in a commision setting until the customer pays you dont get paid. Its that simple and I go back to my original statement if you didnt get paid for 900 why did you keep the option up?

I agree that if you don't get paid, you should drop it. But with 900 Billing, it takes around 2 months before finding out that your not getting paid.

These billing companies process transactions for their customers and they are responsible for paying their customers what their customers are owed. Just because AT&T didn't pay iBill, doesn't all of a sudden relieve iBill of their debt to their customers.

SomeCreep · 04-05-2004, 08:28 PM

04-05-2004, 09:59 AM	#1
SteveLightspeed Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Lightspeedworld Posts: 7,940	The New Ibill .... looks alot like the OLD Ibill. Met with them at the Phoenix Forum this week. Here is a sample of the conversation: me: "Is there ANY CHANCE that I will be paid the money you owe me?" Garrett Bender: "No." Well, thanks "New Ibill" for the "New buttfucking"... It feels a lot like the "Old buttfucking". When I'm asked which processor I trust and recommend, you can be sure I won't say Ibill. Steve Lightspeed __________________ Abra-cadabra!

04-05-2004, 10:25 AM	#8
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04-05-2004, 11:03 AM	#18
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tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	They didnt get paid on the 900 number , so how do you expect them to pay you? When I was in sales until the check came in I didnt get paid, the check didnt come my check didnt come. Also its common sense, you do 900 and then stop getting paid , the first time that happens you take that option off. I never understand people that dont get paid and continue offering that service and complain they didnt get paid . lol They pay on time every time, the first rep we had sucked .We now have Bari and she is great, gave us her ICQ . She is right on any problem or question that comes up. Ibill was the only one to do a web meeting when the Mastercard thing came up and answer any questions posed to them. Last edited by tony299; 04-05-2004 at 04:23 PM..

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