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Old 03-31-2004, 10:27 PM   #51
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Old 03-31-2004, 10:34 PM   #52
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This is not a WAR...it was an invasion.

I just wanted to state for the record that I AM NOT proud to be an American. Our president is a FUCKTARD and should suffer the same fate as the men, women and children, both American and Iraqi, that have died since the ASSHAT lied to the American people and INVADED Iraq. Now more CIVILIAN AMERICANS that went over there to rebuild what WE AMERICANS had done during the invasion, are dead..murdered by grenades and small arms fire and hung from bridges while people cheer! FUCK THAT!

America should NOT be behind GW Bush! He is not working for the best interest of America and he is NOT what America stands for. He is a born again Texan that is responsible for over 600 deaths so far! YES..he is! If held to his standards while he was governor of Texas, he should HAVE to be executed!

He flat out lied to the American people. And he sent our men and women to fight HIS fight, it's not OUR fight....this is not a war FOR America, our troops are not protecting US. They need to come home NOW so that no more AMERICANS die due to the power hungry president of the wonderful United States of America!

You older Americans should be outraged by what this president has done! Especially those of you who fought in Vietnam or remember the Vietnam invasion. We don't need this AGAIN...a senseless invasion of a country that in all seriousness had done nothing to US! We were in no danger from either Iraq or Vietnam. NONE! Our troops do what they are told and go where the president sends them, and our president has sent many to their deaths in this past year. OVER 600 died a senseless death so far.....for what? To protect America? No, there was no danger to the US from Iraq. Osama Bin Laden and his followers were the ones who masterminded the attack on the US..and where is Osama today?

No weapons of mass destruction were found in ALL of IRAQ...NONE! Americans...Remember that come election time...you were lied to.

If Bush wins the election, I'm leaving....I'd rather be French, then be an American with a leader like Bush.
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Old 03-31-2004, 10:35 PM   #53
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You act like they were so poor and lived such horrible lives under Sadam. They worked and payed mortgages and bought groceries... Everything they had was similar to what we have in the West. Don't believe everything you see on CNN.
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Bush sucks.
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Bush needs to be tried in a war crimes tribunal.
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Old 03-31-2004, 10:40 PM   #55
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Old 03-31-2004, 10:51 PM   #57
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9 Americans died today. The most since the first week of January.



DO i see a person burning in there? thats fucked uup shit!
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Old 04-01-2004, 02:35 PM   #58
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Bush sucks.
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Bush needs to be tried in a war crimes tribunal.

ITs funny how everyone outside the U.S. sees it but not them......
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Thats so so so fucking horrible. Killing civies and dragging them around and shit. What the fuck.
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"We grieve today for the loss of our colleagues and we pray for their families. The names of the victims will not be released out of respect for their families.

"The graphic images of the unprovoked attack and subsequent heinous mistreatment of our friends exhibits the extraordinary conditions under which we voluntarily work to bring freedom and democracy to the Iraqi people.

"Coalition forces and civilian contractors and administrators work side by side every day with the Iraqi people to provide essential goods and services like food, water, electricity and vital security to the Iraqi citizens and coalition members. Our tasks are dangerous and while we feel sadness for our fallen colleagues, we also feel pride and satisfaction that we are making a difference for the people of Iraq.

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Three slain Blackwater workers identified

By JOANNE KIMBERLIN, The Virginian-Pilot
© April 2, 2004

Special ops guys live their lives under the radar.

They die that way as well ? unless their families choose otherwise.

On Thursday, Blackwater Security Consulting refused to release the identities of its four employees killed and mutilated Wednesday in Iraq.

The Moyock, N.C.-based company said its decision was made to protect the privacy of the families of those killed.

By Thursday night, three families had come forward to publicly acknowledge the loss of their sons. The three men have been identified as Jerry Zovko of Ohio, Michael Teague of Tennessee, and Scott Helvenston of Florida. Zovko and Teague were with the Army?s airborne special forces before joining Blackwater.

Helvenston was a Navy SEAL.

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The four ambushed Wednesday were said to be escorting food shipments in the Fallujah area, about 30 miles west of Baghdad.

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?They?re not like little boys who suddenly want to go home because they didn?t expect this,? Smith said. ?All of them ? myself included ? worked for the federal government before this. We?ve been taking these risks for years. We accept them.? Zovko?s mother said she and her husband had suspected that their son might be among the dead, and their fears were confirmed Thursday morning when Gary Jackson, the president of Blackwater USA, knocked on the door of their Willoughby, Ohio, home.

?It was the hardest day of my life,? Donna Zovko said during an interview in her suburban Cleveland home. ?Jerry was a man with a principle, an idea.

He loved people. He wanted the world to be without borders, for everybody to be free and safe.?

Zovko?s family wouldn?t say whether he was married or had children.

Jerry Zovko joined the Army in 1991 at age 19. He was a member of the special forces in the 82nd Airborne Division at Fort Bragg in North Carolina, his brother, Tom Zovko, said.

Teague, of Clarksville, Tenn., was a 12-year Army veteran who earned a Bronze Star for service in Afghanistan and also served in Panama and Grenada, his wife, Rhonda, said in a prepared statement.

She called her husband a ?proud father, soldier and American.?

Teague was a member of the 160th Special Operations Aviation Regiment ? known as the Nightstalkers ? out of Clarksville, Tenn. Teague had worked in the security business since he left the Army six years ago, but he joined Blackwater Security only two months ago, WTVF-TV of Nashville reported.

Helvenston was identified by a family spokesperson who said the family would comment today.

Helvenston lived in Leesburg, Fla., before joining the Navy when he was 17. He served with the Navy SEALs for 12 years and later worked as a fitness promoter, starting a company called Amphibian Athletics.

He also was an actor and stunt man for movies including ?G.I. Jane,? according to a company Web site.

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15.000 Iraqi civillians killed and I am suposed to feel sorry for 4 murdarers???
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15.000 Iraqi civillians killed and I am suposed to feel sorry for 4 murdarers???
Four murderers?

Four experienced operators that volunteered to protect a food convoy so some Iraqi civilians could eat something.

I hold an extreme amount of respect for the special operations community, and anyone else that goes into harms way to help their fellow man.

If you still think these guys are murderers, you have a very fucked up view of the world.
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Four experienced operators that volunteered to protect a food convoy so some Iraqi civilians could eat something.



They were Blackwater employees. Ex navy seals.
"Voulenteered"??? Blackwater recived 21 milion dollars to protect Paul Bremer. They were mercenaries.

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"Voulenteered"??? Blackwater recived 21 milion dollars to protect Paul Bremer. They were mercenaries.

Live by the sword, die by the sword
I'm begining to think you would like to see all the westerners out of Iraq and let that country fall into one giant civil war like what happened in Rwanda, Kosovo, or Sierra Leone. Nothing worse than a mother who can't hold her child because both limbs were hacked off at the elbow.

You've got a really short memory about what happened a year ago, in the hours and days after coalition forces took Baghdad, the Iraqi people basically looted everything that wasn't nailed down, and alot of stuff that was. What is your problem with western governments trying to make things better than when they were under the rule of Hussain?

What is the difference if they were private military contractors or a Chevy Suburban full of nuns, Either way I bet you probably would be dancing up and down like those savages in Fallujah in celebration that you just nailed a car with a RPG full of westerners.

If you have a problem with all of this, take your anger out on the leaders that started all of this, not the foot soldier, contractor, or aid worker trying to end all of this.
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Yes, 4000 people really died in 9/11. So why don't the USA bomb United Kingdom or some other country? Let's kill all those UK assholes for 9/11. Ah you're asking me why the USA should bomb the UK? But why not??? Why Bush started this absurd war against Iraq? Why not against the UK, Australia or Canada? The have THE SAME LEVEL OF RELATIONSHIP to 9/11 as Iraq. Sorry man, but you just said very stupid thing... Don't be so stupid as your president, be smarter!
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I'm begining to think you would like to see all the westerners out of Iraq and let that country fall into one giant civil war like what happened in Rwanda, Kosovo, or Sierra Leone. Nothing worse than a mother who can't hold her child because both limbs were hacked off at the elbow.
The civil war was started in Iraq AFTER the US invasion! As about Kosovo... Are you watching the NEWS on TV? Don't even want to comment this.
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I'm begining to think you would like to see all the westerners out of Iraq and let that country fall into one giant civil war like what happened in Rwanda, Kosovo, or Sierra Leone. Nothing worse than a mother who can't hold her child because both limbs were hacked off at the elbow.

You've got a really short memory about what happened a year ago, in the hours and days after coalition forces took Baghdad, the Iraqi people basically looted everything that wasn't nailed down, and alot of stuff that was. What is your problem with western governments trying to make things better than when they were under the rule of Hussain?

What is the difference if they were private military contractors or a Chevy Suburban full of nuns, Either way I bet you probably would be dancing up and down like those savages in Fallujah in celebration that you just nailed a car with a RPG full of westerners.

If you have a problem with all of this, take your anger out on the leaders that started all of this, not the foot soldier, contractor, or aid worker trying to end all of this.

Yes I would like to see all the murderers (westerners) out of Iraq.
500.000 Iraqi children died between 1991 and 2003 as a direct result of UN sanctions imposed on Iraq. Do you honestly belive Iraqis love you for that??? They want to see you burn.

And looting would have never happend if you didn't decide to invade the country. Sadam was a dictator and it's good that he is gone, but you supported him in the first place!! He gased his own people with the gas provided by the USA!

Why didn't you stoped massacre in Rwanda??? Over 1 milion dead people and nobody did nothing. Do you honestly belive USA is in Iraq because you love Iraqis that much??
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