Is it fair to redirect surfers by IP and not to pay webmasters? - GoFuckYourself.com

Garou · 03-31-2004, 11:19 AM

Many sponsors do that - they allow only N.American and some European traffic redirecting the rest to dialers. And affiliate webmasters do not get payed for that at all...

Is it fair? What do You guys think?

AZN 4 Lyfe · 03-31-2004, 11:23 AM

when it comes to this.
GFYers dont give a fuck

Garou · 03-31-2004, 11:23 AM

i do not like that :-)

X-Wing · 03-31-2004, 11:24 AM

If you are getting pay for what the dialer makes, then I guess it is not wrong.

But if you are not... that's another story.

Garou · 03-31-2004, 11:25 AM

i am not - that's the thing.
but there are several big programs around that do that....

psyko514 · 03-31-2004, 11:26 AM

If they advise you of this in their terms and conditions, it's perfectly fair.

If you send foreign traffic after being warned, that's your perogative.

SykkBoy · 03-31-2004, 11:27 AM

why not redirect the traffic yourself BEFORE sending it to a sponsor? Basically, most foriegn credit cards won't be accepted anyways, so instead of sending it to the sponsor, why not send it to a dialer yourself?

Mikel · 03-31-2004, 11:28 AM

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Originally posted by Garou
i am not - that's the thing.
but there are several big programs around that do that....

Have you read the Terms and conditions of the program you're using, it should be written there, if not well this is wrong and you should use another sponsor or send only the traffic they pay on

Garou · 03-31-2004, 11:29 AM

it's not so easy to do that with traffic from galleries.

let me check their TOS again...

yeviking · 03-31-2004, 11:30 AM

than us sponsors with 50/50 of dialer profit

like flaschash

pornkitten · 03-31-2004, 11:32 AM

Like my dad always said:
If you have to ask the answer is no

Garou · 03-31-2004, 11:33 AM

"No commission will be paid if the visitor to our site cannot be tracked by our system. All commissions and referral fees due and payable hereunder shall be payable in United States Dollars. We reserve the right to reject traffic that does not comply with certain requirements that we have periodically, or may in the future, establish. We will be solely responsible for all aspects of traffic recording. We will track the volume of traffic generated by your site and will make unaudited reports, summarizing this activity."

that's what they have :-)

yeviking · 03-31-2004, 11:33 AM

redirecting by yourself is also good idea

Corleone · 03-31-2004, 11:33 AM

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Originally posted by pornkitten
Like my dad always said:
If you have to ask the answer is no

simple

Cyborg 2.0 · 03-31-2004, 11:34 AM

its ok if they say it before hand on the join page
but its nice if u get % of profits
but u can redirect only allowed traffic to the sponsor and send the rest urself to dialers

Mikel · 03-31-2004, 11:35 AM

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Originally posted by Garou
it's not so easy to do that with traffic from galleries.

let me check their TOS again...

Its not hard either ;-)

Garou · 03-31-2004, 11:36 AM

redirect traffic from galleries? i do not think that TGPs will like that...
what about those TOS?

Mikel · 03-31-2004, 11:37 AM

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Originally posted by Garou
"No commission will be paid if the visitor to our site cannot be tracked by our system. All commissions and referral fees due and payable hereunder shall be payable in United States Dollars. We reserve the right to reject traffic that does not comply with certain requirements that we have periodically, or may in the future, establish. We will be solely responsible for all aspects of traffic recording. We will track the volume of traffic generated by your site and will make unaudited reports, summarizing this activity."

that's what they have :-)

which sponsor is that?

Garou · 03-31-2004, 11:38 AM

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Originally posted by Mikel

Its not hard either ;-)

I have the system ready to filter traffic but it will be ready for active use a bit later...anyways I do not like such terms and such a policy...

Mikel · 03-31-2004, 11:39 AM

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Originally posted by Garou
redirect traffic from galleries? i do not think that TGPs will like that...
what about those TOS?

TGP wont mind if you are putting that redirection script when the surfer click the banner, if its US it goes to sponsor or else you send it somewhere else

Garou · 03-31-2004, 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mikel

which sponsor is that?

DollarMachine

Garou · 03-31-2004, 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mikel

TGP wont mind if you are putting that redirection script when the surfer click the banner, if its US it goes to sponsor or else you send it somewhere else

many of them will. Anyways I will try

Screaming · 03-31-2004, 12:36 PM

i think its wrong because you know they arent getting paid on the dialer

High Quality · 03-31-2004, 12:36 PM

List the sponsors you use who do this...

Garou · 03-31-2004, 01:05 PM

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Originally posted by High Quality
List the sponsors you use who do this...

to do what?

03-31-2004, 11:19 AM	#1
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X-Wing Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 768	If you are getting pay for what the dialer makes, then I guess it is not wrong. But if you are not... that's another story.

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Garou Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 850	i am not - that's the thing. but there are several big programs around that do that....

03-31-2004, 11:29 AM	#9
Garou Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 850	it's not so easy to do that with traffic from galleries. let me check their TOS again...

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