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Garou 03-31-2004 11:19 AM

Is it fair to redirect surfers by IP and not to pay webmasters?
 
Many sponsors do that - they allow only N.American and some European traffic redirecting the rest to dialers. And affiliate webmasters do not get payed for that at all...

Is it fair? What do You guys think?

AZN 4 Lyfe 03-31-2004 11:23 AM

when it comes to this.
GFYers dont give a fuck

Garou 03-31-2004 11:23 AM

i do not like that :-)

X-Wing 03-31-2004 11:24 AM

If you are getting pay for what the dialer makes, then I guess it is not wrong.

But if you are not... that's another story.

Garou 03-31-2004 11:25 AM

i am not - that's the thing.
but there are several big programs around that do that....

psyko514 03-31-2004 11:26 AM

If they advise you of this in their terms and conditions, it's perfectly fair.

If you send foreign traffic after being warned, that's your perogative.

SykkBoy 03-31-2004 11:27 AM

why not redirect the traffic yourself BEFORE sending it to a sponsor? Basically, most foriegn credit cards won't be accepted anyways, so instead of sending it to the sponsor, why not send it to a dialer yourself?

Mikel 03-31-2004 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Garou
i am not - that's the thing.
but there are several big programs around that do that....

Have you read the Terms and conditions of the program you're using, it should be written there, if not well this is wrong and you should use another sponsor or send only the traffic they pay on

Garou 03-31-2004 11:29 AM

it's not so easy to do that with traffic from galleries.

let me check their TOS again...

yeviking 03-31-2004 11:30 AM

than us sponsors with 50/50 of dialer profit

like flaschash

pornkitten 03-31-2004 11:32 AM

Like my dad always said:
If you have to ask the answer is no

Garou 03-31-2004 11:33 AM

"No commission will be paid if the visitor to our site cannot be tracked by our system. All commissions and referral fees due and payable hereunder shall be payable in United States Dollars. We reserve the right to reject traffic that does not comply with certain requirements that we have periodically, or may in the future, establish. We will be solely responsible for all aspects of traffic recording. We will track the volume of traffic generated by your site and will make unaudited reports, summarizing this activity."

that's what they have :-)

yeviking 03-31-2004 11:33 AM

redirecting by yourself is also good idea

Corleone 03-31-2004 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by pornkitten
Like my dad always said:
If you have to ask the answer is no

simple:thumbsup

Cyborg 2.0 03-31-2004 11:34 AM

its ok if they say it before hand on the join page
but its nice if u get % of profits
but u can redirect only allowed traffic to the sponsor and send the rest urself to dialers

Mikel 03-31-2004 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Garou
it's not so easy to do that with traffic from galleries.

let me check their TOS again...

Its not hard either ;-)

Garou 03-31-2004 11:36 AM

redirect traffic from galleries? i do not think that TGPs will like that...
what about those TOS?

Mikel 03-31-2004 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Garou
"No commission will be paid if the visitor to our site cannot be tracked by our system. All commissions and referral fees due and payable hereunder shall be payable in United States Dollars. We reserve the right to reject traffic that does not comply with certain requirements that we have periodically, or may in the future, establish. We will be solely responsible for all aspects of traffic recording. We will track the volume of traffic generated by your site and will make unaudited reports, summarizing this activity."

that's what they have :-)

which sponsor is that?

Garou 03-31-2004 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mikel


Its not hard either ;-)

I have the system ready to filter traffic but it will be ready for active use a bit later...anyways I do not like such terms and such a policy...

Mikel 03-31-2004 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Garou
redirect traffic from galleries? i do not think that TGPs will like that...
what about those TOS?

TGP wont mind if you are putting that redirection script when the surfer click the banner, if its US it goes to sponsor or else you send it somewhere else

Garou 03-31-2004 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mikel


which sponsor is that?

DollarMachine

Garou 03-31-2004 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mikel


TGP wont mind if you are putting that redirection script when the surfer click the banner, if its US it goes to sponsor or else you send it somewhere else

many of them will. Anyways I will try :)

Screaming 03-31-2004 12:36 PM

i think its wrong because you know they arent getting paid on the dialer

High Quality 03-31-2004 12:36 PM

List the sponsors you use who do this...

Garou 03-31-2004 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by High Quality
List the sponsors you use who do this...
to do what?


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