malakajoe

I purchased 10K hits from them on Friday night. Nothing special..not a lot of cash. On Sat. at 1:07pm PST I get an e-mail stating my campaign has started. At 3:54pm PST on Sat. I get an e-mail stating my campaign has ended (granted, there was no return e-mail address on this e-mail and didn't state their company name..but I assumed it was them since the only people I bought traffic from). So in less than 3 hours, they said they sent me 10K in traffic.

According to Paycounter, I received 2239 vistitors during that time. Now, we all know these programs aren't accurate, so I went to my server logs. My server logs say I got 4564 in those 3 hours.

On Sat. when I received the e-mail with no return address, or stating who it was from anywhere...I wrote FastAdultTraffic asking if the e-mail was from them. No response to date. I ICQ'ed Ozzymosis and he approved me. I left him a message stating I needed to talk with him about traffic I purchased, but no response. Today, I was able to messaged him and discuss. He stated they sent all the traffic. I didn't fight it, because what is the point?

You can read other posts where some dislike and have problems, and some like FastAdultTraffic. I am just trying to show facts that I have. Not a lot of cash, so I am not going to pursue anything. Just won't buy from them again. I am sure I will get ripped here by some, but I am just stating my facts as I have them. Since there is no Better Business Bureau for adult sites, this place does good for it. And as long as not lies and you are telling the truth, nothing wrong with it. Consumers (which people buying traffic are) have a voice, just like they can have a voice back right here.

Just wanted to give a heads up if anyone was looking to buy from them.

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I guess I'll bump this to the top since its falling fast.

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I had even worse results with Adult Monger traffic. From what I know Ozzy is a stand up guy and wouldnt rip anyone off but in this day and age you just can never tell....hit me up on ICQ if your looking for some other traffic deals. There are a few places I purchase from that are pretty good. I always make my money back plus some so i consider that pretty good.
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malakajoe

I guess no one wants drama today.

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i was doing business with ozzy way before i put fastadulttraffic in my sig. i've never had a problem with them. all hits were accounted for.


ozzy is definitely a stand up guy.

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malakajoe

Maybe he is. And I am sure there are people who like him and his service.

I was just stating what happened to me. Think I laid out the issue well.

Just wanted to give a heads up with my experience.

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understood. this is an open forum and i'm not a sales rep. i'm sure ozzy will help you out soon

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malakajoe

I doubt it. And talking to a few others, they doubt it because they didn't receive good communication once you say you are unhappy.

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Bump...hoping for some drama.

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Alright, here goes.

Like Malakajoe, I purchased a 10k block from fast adult traffic.

I made a whopping 2-3 ceMags joins. I hesitate to even mention this, but it was part of my experience.

Directly prior to making the purchase, I contacted Ozzymosis and I specifically indicated that I only wanted a fraction of the 10k each day. It was not communicated to me that he could not throttle the traffic in that fashion until after the purchase was complete.

Also, during the course of the whole thing, getting replies to my messages was very difficult. I wanted to temporarily stop the traffic because what I was trying obviously wasn't working. I didn't hear from him until the purchase was allegedly over.

When he finally did respond, I told him that I wouldn't be making any further purchases primarily due to the lack of communication, his reply was literally "OK, have a nice day".

Needless to say, there are other brokers I'd recommend over F.A.T. in a heartbeat.

Not alot of drama here, just a completely unsatisfied customer.

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Turbo or Turboface??? I'm sure you can understand why I ask you to clarify.

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bump, where is ozzy?

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Reg a new nickname, post you need traffic in the other forum, and bam, he'll post like clockwork.

Ozzymosis1

Hoping for some drama?

I was trying to talk to you over ICQ and you didn't want to talk. Now all the sudden you want drama?

I am proud to work for Fast Adult Traffic. We have a top notch team, and we deliver a top notch service. We sell traffic to some of the largest programs, and tgps on the net and they are happy with your traffic, customer support, and stats. We also sell to a very large amount of people here on GFY who are very happy with our service.

As I told you on ICQ most people are happy with our service but there are some who are not. That is the way it is with every business.

For you to come here and "hope for drama" is pretty immature and unprofessional. It is now obvious to me that you are just trying to make a name for yourself here on GFY. I will not contribute to that by getting in some pissing match with you. Take your drama to someone else.

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malakajoe

What do you mean you tried to talk to me? LOL!!

First I e-mail. No response. I leave you ICQ message, and nothing returned. Finally I talk to you today, and all I got was very short answers and it was obvious you weren't go to do anything for the customer other than "we sent you the traffic". How is that helping the customer?

By simply stating "we have happy customers", that is all you feel you need to say. You don't care to help anyone that isn't happy. You only care to help "happy" customers. Several people have stated in various threads they were unhappy, and you did nothing for any of them. How is that customer service?

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Why not fight it? I purchased traffic from 2 different brokers and both sent me bogus hits (one sent hitbots, the other china). I sent urgent e-mails to one and they refunded me my money, the other wouldn't answer my e-mails so I filed a complaint with paypal and within a week I had my money back

I hate dishonest ppl

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I bought 10k hits, most of which came from 404 traffic, largely from bigmommahosting.

Unfortunately, the traffic was crap. I looked a little into it...

bash-2.05$ grep bigmomma access_log.1 | awk '{print $1}' | sort | uniq -c | sort -nr | head -1
1125 4.65.217.185
bash-2.05$

1125 hits from one IP? Hmm... let's look at it a little.

bash-2.05$ grep "4.65.217.185" access_log.1 | awk '{print $11}' | grep jpg | wc -l
817
bash-2.05$

817 of the referers for this one IP were jpgs redirecting to an HTML page?

No wonder it couldn't possibly convert.

They were thumbnails from Comus Thumbs...

bash-2.05$ grep "4.65.217.185" access_log.1 | awk '{print $11}' | grep jpg | head
"http://www.bigmommahosting.com/ct/thumbs/tn85.jpg"
"http://www.bigmommahosting.com/ct/thumbs/tn406.jpg"
"http://www.bigmommahosting.com/ct/thumbs/tn98.jpg"
"http://www.bigmommahosting.com/ct/thumbs/tn424.jpg"
"http://www.bigmommahosting.com/ct/thumbs/tn97.jpg"
"http://www.bigmommahosting.com/ct/thumbs/tn84.jpg"
"http://www.bigmommahosting.com/ct/thumbs/tn392.jpg"
"http://www.bigmommahosting.com/ct/thumbs/tn414.jpg"
"http://www.bigmommahosting.com/ct/thumbs/tn59.jpg"
"http://www.bigmommahosting.com/ct/thumbs/tn47.jpg"
bash-2.05$

Effectively, even if it were a surfer, these thumbs would presumably be called from an img src=

OK, so what fucknut keeps trying to pull up jpgs for this long?

4.65.217.185 - - [20/Mar/2004:19:03:30 -0500] "GET / HTTP/1.0" 200 35991 "http://www.bigmommahosting.com/ct/thumbs/tn85.jpg" "Mozilla/3.0 [en] (AWV2.20r)"

I can't find any reference for what kind of User-Agent that is, but it smells bad to me.

I'm simply writing it off as a purchase I shan't make again... but I was urged to post my experience here by someone who saw this thread, and listened to me rant while I waited out the deluge of shitty traffic.

I have been getting traffic from other brokers which has great TGP productivity, and I'll continue to buy from those places.

I didn't expect amazing conversion ratios, but I *did* expect traffic which would actually see the fucking page.

*sigh*

-Nev

malakajoe

So one took care of you, and the other didn't.

Maybe I should be a dick even over not much money and do a chargeback. Let them try and fight it. My logs vs. theirs.

But not worthy my time. Just never do business with them again.

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Server logs are pretty hard to argue with though. If the server logs say he only got less than half of the traffic he paid for, then that's not "good service" in my books.


Malaka,... if I were you I would lose the "looking for drama" attitude and keep it professional on this type of thread.

Ozzy.... if I were YOU I would make things right by this guy and shoot him just over 5k more hits. That's a small pittance to show everyone here that you're running a tight ship.



It's only what I would do, take it or leave it.

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ouch..

Ozzymosis1

I belive I answered all your questions as well as i could.

Malaka (06:17 PM) :
i bought some traffic from you and had a question
Ozzymosis (06:18 PM) :
okay
Malaka (06:19 PM) :
i got an e-mail at 1:07PM on sat. saying the campaign started..and then an e-mail at 3:54 saying it ended (the e-mail at 3:54 didn't have a return address, but i assumed it was from you..only place I currently have bought from)
Malaka (06:19 PM) :
3:54 pm Sat...sorry
Malaka (06:19 PM) :
and the traffic looked to stop at that time....in less then 3 hours, did all the hits get sent???
Ozzymosis (06:22 PM) :
what is your account number?
Malaka (06:23 PM) :
i dont know..but i do have this
Malaka (06:23 PM) :
Your username is ********
Your new generated password is ********
Malaka (06:23 PM) :
the domain is ********
Ozzymosis (06:23 PM) :
okay, one minute
Ozzymosis (06:33 PM) :
We are having some server load problems.

I'll be with you in one short minute, sorry for the delay.
Malaka (06:34 PM) :
no problem
Ozzymosis (06:36 PM) :
It looks we sent all the traffic
Malaka (06:37 PM) :
in less than 3 hours?????
Ozzymosis (06:39 PM) :
Looks like it took just over 3 hours
Ozzymosis (06:40 PM) :
We are able to send around 500k daily
Malaka (06:40 PM) :
your site should say that then....and I will double check with my raw server logs
Ozzymosis (06:42 PM) :
ok
Malaka (06:44 PM) :
i mean seriously....that much traffic is nice..but you have to expect it..and I know I am going to be told "You agreed to use our counter"...but my stats aren't 10k for that day....i have read serveral complaining the same thing...and some not complaining....but if people keep complaining, you might have a problem
Malaka (06:44 PM) :
good luck
Malaka (06:44 PM) :
bye
Ozzymosis (06:45 PM) :
We have plenty of happy clients. Its a small number of people who have any problems.
Malaka (06:48 PM) :
ok
Malaka (06:48 PM) :
good doing business with you then
Ozzymosis (06:50 PM) :
have a good day


Im not sure what else you expect me to say...

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malakajoe

I only said looking for drama because like I said before I wasn't going to fight it. Just wanted others to know so they wouldn't get ripped off.

I know it wasn't a good choice of words, but won't take them back.

I hope people looking at it can look past the one comment and see the issue.

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What did this seriously prove? You did nothing but tell me you have happy customers...and make it sound like I was wrong. You did absolutely nothing for me.

You even stated have problems. But you do nothing to help with those problems.

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Ozzymosis1

We have no problem compensating people. But put yourself in our shoes. We get on average 3 fraudulent CC orders, 1 fraudulent paypal, and a handful of people trying to scam us in other ways every week.

If we went by everyone else's stats we would be out of business because of people trying to screw us.

We have compensated many clients, and will go the extra mile to make right if there is a problem.

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Let's hear some positive feedback from some of those "largest programs and tgps"

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Ozzymosis1

If you want to have a civil conversation and try to solve your problem then send an email to support. I'm not going to get in a pissing match with you.

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malakajoe

Where did you even try to help me? I admit I logged off at the end quickly. But it was obvious you didn't care and always fall back on the happy customer phrase. You did that on ICQ and almost all threads I see of people complaining.

Like I said before. If you are going to send 10k in a few hours to someone, your site should state this. Usually people don't expect this.

As I stated here, I have my raw logs that show numbers. I won't fight this, but wanted to share so others could watch out.

Here and other threads..you always fall back on "our counter" this, "our counter" that. Maybe your counters are wrong if a few people are complaining about it. It seems to me that you too easily fall back on "our counter".

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Why? So they won't respond again?

I told you I wasn't going to fight it. Just wanted to use this board as a "consumer" complaint. The more people that say good and bad things about businesses here, I feel everyone is better off so they are knowledgeable before they buy.

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Same reason I posted.

Kamilla36D

Be a dick for wanting what you paid for? That's not being a dick IMHO.

The first one I sent a couple of e-mails too. It was a ppc se and they explained that an affiliate was sending the hitbot traffic and they refunded me. That was worth 2 e-mails to get my money back.
The other sold me popunders but after seeing in my stats that it was all china, I stopped the campaign and sent them a total of 5 e-mails before sending one to paypal. Within a week they agreed to refund me my deposit. That was worth 6 e-mails to get my moeny back.

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If the guy's server logs back up what he says, then that is the bottom line. There likely are potential new clients lurking this thread, it was only my suggestion that you investigate this further and check the guy's server logs, and if they truly show a shortage of hits, then compensate the guy. That's all.


I deal with several sources of paid traffic, I know full well what the game is where scammers and whiners are concerned. But sometimes isn't it better to make someone happy rather than have a lot of people left wondering about your company?


I don't know man, it is of course your call.




Instead of you guys quibbling about these ICQ logs, maybe Malakajoe should post some server log stats? Think that might help solve this?

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malakajoe

I wasn't talking about you. You did what you wanted and got what you wanted. That is great.

I was simply stating I wasn't going to fight it. Not worth $30 to me....again, just wanted to share my experience for others to read.

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That would be a big ass log to post here.

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We would have no problem sending a refund if there was an issue like that. It is obviouse that some people just want to bitch.

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He is more than welcome to send server logs to my boss.

[email protected]

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malakajoe

Ok, I just want to bitch. You have the right to your opinion.

Just please tell me why my e-mail and ICQ message went unresponded before I talked to you today? Please tell me why you didn't help more over ICQ other than telling me all hits where sent and that you have happy customers.

If I am only bitching, I think that would be a professional response from you.

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i personally dont buy from brokers

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Totals man, just the totals. Not the entire detailed log.




But you don't want to "settle" this do you? No point in continuing this thread if you're not interested in solving the problem.





It's sad to see this kind of thread when the problem in question could be so easily settled, yet neither side wants to make the effort. I buy traffic in bulk from several sources regularly.... if I were to buy 500k uniques from this company and find that I only received under half of that you BET I'd be pissed off, so I can't help feeling a bit hesitant towards the company in question.


Whatever, knock yourselves out then.

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Not a problem. Just as long as you send over your logs showing you sent it to me.

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i think your a noisey parker

maybe you should step back abit and mind your own business

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malakajoe

I am ok settling it. But just showing totals won't do much. Not that verifiable.

I responded saying I will send the logs to them.

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Its cool. CD makes good points. I just am sick of traffic guys ripping people off and wanted to point out a potential nother one.

I probably went about it wrong with some of my wording. I will try and supply what I can to prove they didn't send the hits. I just want it to look legit so no one can come back with the usual reponses.

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Ozzy or John,

I need to talk to either of you on ICQ / email / phone about a refund... Ive emailed / called / emailed and still no repsonse....

Theo

Ozzymosis1, can you comment on this as well?

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Good fucking thing they didn't buy wild-cat'S sig :P

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Here we go again ... If you were selling to big players, they would come here and back you up . When I had trouble with my fucking cards, tons of people went in my thread and back me up . Almost all my customers that bough from me b4 on this board came up .

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disintegrated, I thought you had me on ignore?


I was trying to help these guys work out a problem. Step off and let men handle business things, mkay? Maybe close the trap and learn something.


It's obvious to anyone that isn't a moron that my posts here are not written to stir up shit but to try and facilitate a solution.

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