Word of warning when purchasing from FastAdultTraffic - Page 2 - GoFuckYourself.com

cluck · 03-29-2004, 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NevDull
I bought 10k hits, most of which came from 404 traffic, largely from bigmommahosting.

Unfortunately, the traffic was crap. I looked a little into it...

bash-2.05$ grep bigmomma access_log.1 | awk '{print $1}' | sort | uniq -c | sort -nr | head -1
1125 4.65.217.185
bash-2.05$

1125 hits from one IP? Hmm... let's look at it a little.

bash-2.05$ grep "4.65.217.185" access_log.1 | awk '{print $11}' | grep jpg | wc -l
817
bash-2.05$

817 of the referers for this one IP were jpgs redirecting to an HTML page?

No wonder it couldn't possibly convert.

They were thumbnails from Comus Thumbs...

bash-2.05$ grep "4.65.217.185" access_log.1 | awk '{print $11}' | grep jpg | head
"http://www.bigmommahosting.com/ct/thumbs/tn85.jpg"
"http://www.bigmommahosting.com/ct/thumbs/tn406.jpg"
"http://www.bigmommahosting.com/ct/thumbs/tn98.jpg"
"http://www.bigmommahosting.com/ct/thumbs/tn424.jpg"
"http://www.bigmommahosting.com/ct/thumbs/tn97.jpg"
"http://www.bigmommahosting.com/ct/thumbs/tn84.jpg"
"http://www.bigmommahosting.com/ct/thumbs/tn392.jpg"
"http://www.bigmommahosting.com/ct/thumbs/tn414.jpg"
"http://www.bigmommahosting.com/ct/thumbs/tn59.jpg"
"http://www.bigmommahosting.com/ct/thumbs/tn47.jpg"
bash-2.05$

Effectively, even if it were a surfer, these thumbs would presumably be called from an img src=

OK, so what fucknut keeps trying to pull up jpgs for this long?

4.65.217.185 - - [20/Mar/2004:19:03:30 -0500] "GET / HTTP/1.0" 200 35991 "http://www.bigmommahosting.com/ct/thumbs/tn85.jpg" "Mozilla/3.0 [en] (AWV2.20r)"

I can't find any reference for what kind of User-Agent that is, but it smells bad to me.

I'm simply writing it off as a purchase I shan't make again... but I was urged to post my experience here by someone who saw this thread, and listened to me rant while I waited out the deluge of shitty traffic.

I have been getting traffic from other brokers which has great TGP productivity, and I'll continue to buy from those places.

I didn't expect amazing conversion ratios, but I *did* expect traffic which would actually see the fucking page.

*sigh*

-Nev

I better go look through my logs!

I bought 10k 404 traffic not too long ago and it only had about a 10% CTR. Not only that, but only 15% got credit on fpctraffics exit program.

Herb Kornfield · 03-29-2004, 02:38 PM

50 warnings.... ozzy and john...its been over an hour now since weve started trying to contact////

where are you at about this refund?

cluck · 03-29-2004, 02:49 PM

Some research.

I get alot of hits from .jpg files from that server too.

For example:
http://www.bigmommahosting.com/www/s...dkrmrv0010.jpg

- redirects to -

http://www.bigmommahosting.com/404/404.html

And sometimes the images for the ezines come up not found. Not sure what the deal is.

Also look at this one.

http://www.bigmommahosting.com/www/p...et5/Index.html

All those broken images are going to sites like easypic, who I suppose either trades with them or bought a package.

Any answers on this?

fletcher · 03-29-2004, 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NevDull
I bought 10k hits, most of which came from 404 traffic, largely from bigmommahosting.

Unfortunately, the traffic was crap. I looked a little into it...

bash-2.05$ grep bigmomma access_log.1 | awk '{print $1}' | sort | uniq -c | sort -nr | head -1
1125 4.65.217.185
bash-2.05$

1125 hits from one IP? Hmm... let's look at it a little.

bash-2.05$ grep "4.65.217.185" access_log.1 | awk '{print $11}' | grep jpg | wc -l
817
bash-2.05$

817 of the referers for this one IP were jpgs redirecting to an HTML page?

No wonder it couldn't possibly convert.

They were thumbnails from Comus Thumbs...

bash-2.05$ grep "4.65.217.185" access_log.1 | awk '{print $11}' | grep jpg | head
"http://www.bigmommahosting.com/ct/thumbs/tn85.jpg"
"http://www.bigmommahosting.com/ct/thumbs/tn406.jpg"
"http://www.bigmommahosting.com/ct/thumbs/tn98.jpg"
"http://www.bigmommahosting.com/ct/thumbs/tn424.jpg"
"http://www.bigmommahosting.com/ct/thumbs/tn97.jpg"
"http://www.bigmommahosting.com/ct/thumbs/tn84.jpg"
"http://www.bigmommahosting.com/ct/thumbs/tn392.jpg"
"http://www.bigmommahosting.com/ct/thumbs/tn414.jpg"
"http://www.bigmommahosting.com/ct/thumbs/tn59.jpg"
"http://www.bigmommahosting.com/ct/thumbs/tn47.jpg"
bash-2.05$

Effectively, even if it were a surfer, these thumbs would presumably be called from an img src=

OK, so what fucknut keeps trying to pull up jpgs for this long?

4.65.217.185 - - [20/Mar/2004:19:03:30 -0500] "GET / HTTP/1.0" 200 35991 "http://www.bigmommahosting.com/ct/thumbs/tn85.jpg" "Mozilla/3.0 [en] (AWV2.20r)"

I can't find any reference for what kind of User-Agent that is, but it smells bad to me.

I'm simply writing it off as a purchase I shan't make again... but I was urged to post my experience here by someone who saw this thread, and listened to me rant while I waited out the deluge of shitty traffic.

I have been getting traffic from other brokers which has great TGP productivity, and I'll continue to buy from those places.

I didn't expect amazing conversion ratios, but I *did* expect traffic which would actually see the fucking page.

*sigh*

-Nev

I had the exact same experience (same domain and everything) when I looked over the server logs of a friend who made a traffic purchase from them. I simply told him not to buy from them again, but since you're posting the exact same experience I think people should know. Well over a thousand were from the same IP, and I believe they were coming from images. I remember one of the biggest page referers was in Chinese (supposed US traffic).

Herb Kornfield · 03-29-2004, 02:52 PM

Weve found that all of our hits came from bigmommahosting as well.....80% Russian / Chinese traffic....

The reps there still arent answering their emails / cell phones / office phones / ICQs to just take care of the refund Ive been asking for....

Starting to wonder here.....

CDSmith · 03-29-2004, 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Herb Kornfield
Starting to wonder here.....

Understatement.

Would be nice to hear ozzy's repsonse though.

ControlThy · 03-29-2004, 03:14 PM

Business would be so much easier without scammers...

pradaboy · 03-29-2004, 03:14 PM

wow Ozzy I'm truly disappointed to see the way you handle this... I was interested at buying traffic at FAT but after this I'm not gonna waste my money on it...

Seems to me you guys have a problem to solve at least in the customer relations section

High Quality · 03-29-2004, 03:24 PM

Thanks for the heads up man....

eurothumb · 03-29-2004, 03:51 PM

As lots of you know I run tgpbuilders.com where I buy every month 1Mill hits to the network of sites we are building.

I was looking to FAT a few hours ago wondering if I should buy from them to test them out or not...

THANK GOD I saw this thread.

chrisp420 · 03-29-2004, 03:57 PM

eurothumb,

take my thread as a word to large traffic deals with them:

http://board.gofuckyourself.com/show...hreadid=261051

Down_Under · 03-29-2004, 04:06 PM

notice how theyve gone all quite

hits from jpgs

hits not delivered

hits from china

1100 hits form one ip

no responses from support

FAST ADULT TRAFFIC = SHIT

Joetanto · 03-29-2004, 04:10 PM

looks like i should have done better reading. bought 25k hits a few hours ago based on a post from KMR, maybe i should hold his balls until i get the traffic. I will post back here again after I get it all

Digipimp · 03-29-2004, 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Joetanto
looks like i should have done better reading. bought 25k hits a few hours ago based on a post from KMR, maybe i should hold his balls until i get the traffic. I will post back here again after I get it all

They paid for his sig with traffic and all of a sudden he turned into a fucking customer service rep for them.

SubSonic · 03-29-2004, 04:31 PM

interesting thread .. so here's a bump

Roger · 03-29-2004, 04:31 PM

I bought some clicked traffic from FAT and I got a few signups. All the other traffic brokers never gave me any signups whatsoever, I usually had to send the traffic to TGP's.

strobi · 03-29-2004, 04:35 PM

ouch and they just bought alot of sigssssss

xxxdesign-net · 03-29-2004, 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Joetanto
looks like i should have done better reading. bought 25k hits a few hours ago based on a post from KMR, maybe i should hold his balls until i get the traffic. I will post back here again after I get it all

LOL Fast Adult Traffic just bought his sig... unless they already sended him the traffic (in exchange of sig) .. which I would doubt.. how the fuck can he say "Very productive traffic

"

oh my...

SubSonic · 03-29-2004, 04:40 PM

seems, that the rep went to shit with that thread ...

strobi · 03-29-2004, 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SubSonic
seems, that the rep went to shit with that thread ...

guess so... bad news travels fast

the_wizz · 03-29-2004, 04:43 PM

I had this same experience a month or so ago. Except my hits came in a two hour window on a saturday or sunday morning.

Needless to say, I don't buy from them any more.

strobi · 03-29-2004, 04:46 PM

http://www.bigmommahosting.com/www/p...et5/Index.html

hahaha!!! that page is wild! look at the status bar! Easypic... and alot of others too!

rowan · 03-29-2004, 04:54 PM

That's the problem with 404 traffic, brokers don't properly filter it and pass through img srcs as site loads.

Even the biggies are not immune, I've had this happen with a large well known traffic guy. A particular thumb TGP had every thumb 404 (sounds familiar?) and so every time it was loaded about 100 img srcs got passed through to me as unique clicked traffic. They were really raw img srcs of course.

There's a variable called HTTP_ACCEPT (I think) which specifies the type of data the browser will accept. If it's an img src then that field will not include the phrase "text/html" and it shouldn't be passed through to buyers.

SubSonic · 03-29-2004, 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by strobi

guess so... bad news travels fast

so true ... so fucking true

Tracy · 03-29-2004, 08:00 PM

Odin · 03-29-2004, 08:43 PM

DaLord · 03-29-2004, 08:52 PM

This will be a bumpy bump...

Kevin2 · 03-29-2004, 10:23 PM

Thank goodness I read this thread. I was going to start purchasing traffic from them but there is now ways I'm doing that now.

TheSenator · 03-29-2004, 10:59 PM

Can anyone list reputable Traffic Brokers?

CDSmith · 03-29-2004, 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheSenator
Can anyone list reputable Traffic Brokers?

I've personally sampled/tested every source of traffic listed on <a href="http://www.cdsmodels.com/traffic.html" TARGET="_blank">Paid Traffic Source</a>.

All clicked link sources, so it basically comes down to how good your marketing/webmastering skills are.

I don't promote sources with popup/under, exit, or 404 traffic. I've always found that those surfers mostly click the X and close the window, thus wasting your bandwidth and making you squat. Unless you're very sharp at converting that kind of traffic, clicked link traffic is the way to go.

Abyss_Vee · 03-29-2004, 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CDSmith
Server logs are pretty hard to argue with though. If the server logs say he only got less than half of the traffic he paid for, then that's not "good service" in my books.

Malaka,... if I were you I would lose the "looking for drama" attitude and keep it professional on this type of thread.

Ozzy.... if I were YOU I would make things right by this guy and shoot him just over 5k more hits. That's a small pittance to show everyone here that you're running a tight ship.

It's only what I would do, take it or leave it.

i totally agree with CD

reynold · 03-29-2004, 11:39 PM

Thanks for the warning.

pradaboy · 03-30-2004, 05:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by CDSmith
I've personally sampled/tested every source of traffic listed on <a href="http://www.cdsmodels.com/traffic.html" TARGET="_blank">Paid Traffic Source</a>.

All clicked link sources, so it basically comes down to how good your marketing/webmastering skills are.

I don't promote sources with popup/under, exit, or 404 traffic. I've always found that those surfers mostly click the X and close the window, thus wasting your bandwidth and making you squat. Unless you're very sharp at converting that kind of traffic, clicked link traffic is the way to go.

good to know I will be checking them out

SS396chevelleSS · 03-30-2004, 06:39 AM

I as well bought 10K off this company and got shit results, Only 4000 served and who knows how many fromt he same IP... pisses me off after seeing this, I was just going to cut my losses and figure it was shitty traffic but now I feel like I got fucked. Refund my money to baer at rochester dot rr dot com (like that will happen) it was a 50 dollar purchace. As of now i wouldnt recommend this company, ill repost if i get a refund

Tracy · 03-30-2004, 08:04 AM

Where is good old Ozzy?

jft · 03-30-2004, 08:21 AM

We bought a load of hits from F.A.T and it was utterly rubbish....

The links the traffic came from were all from pop up hell.
*Very* unproductive traffic.

We wont be using them again.

jft · 03-30-2004, 08:26 AM

okay board - i just wanna say - i got fucking flamed a while ago for suggesting FAT was bad service and shit value..

So i feel avenged to see all you fuckers moaning about them to0.

'FAST ADULT TRAFFIC ->>>>>

'

papa56 · 03-30-2004, 10:05 PM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by cluck
[B]Some research.

I get alot of hits from .jpg files from that server too.

For example:
http://www.bigmommahosting.com/www/s...dkrmrv0010.jpg

My Norton Anti Virus was going crazy at that URL.

Downloader.trojan

digifan · 03-30-2004, 11:25 PM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by papa56
[B]

Quote:

Originally posted by cluck
Some research.

I get alot of hits from .jpg files from that server too.

For example:
http://www.bigmommahosting.com/www/s...dkrmrv0010.jpg

My Norton Anti Virus was going crazy at that URL.

Downloader.trojan

and it tries to install a search.com toolbar.

03-29-2004, 02:49 PM	#53
cluck Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: New Jersey Posts: 5,248	Some research. I get alot of hits from .jpg files from that server too. For example: http://www.bigmommahosting.com/www/s...dkrmrv0010.jpg - redirects to - http://www.bigmommahosting.com/404/404.html And sometimes the images for the ezines come up not found. Not sure what the deal is. Also look at this one. http://www.bigmommahosting.com/www/p...et5/Index.html All those broken images are going to sites like easypic, who I suppose either trades with them or bought a package. Any answers on this? __________________ icq 279990726 www.mcdonalds.com <- great money making opportunity

03-29-2004, 03:14 PM	#58
pradaboy sell me your banners Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: on the tubes Posts: 12,931	wow Ozzy I'm truly disappointed to see the way you handle this... I was interested at buying traffic at FAT but after this I'm not gonna waste my money on it... Seems to me you guys have a problem to solve at least in the customer relations section __________________ Media Buyer - Sell me your traffic! FREE to register domains... Better than 99% of the crap sold here!

03-29-2004, 03:24 PM	#59
High Quality Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Vegas Posts: 5,741	Thanks for the heads up man.... __________________ RecurCash.com - Averaging $38/sale with 60% revshare in the first 4 months alone! Convert your TEEN traffic today @ better than 1:500 guaranteed. ICQ me: 18287590!

03-29-2004, 03:51 PM	#60
eurothumb Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 152	As lots of you know I run tgpbuilders.com where I buy every month 1Mill hits to the network of sites we are building. I was looking to FAT a few hours ago wondering if I should buy from them to test them out or not... THANK GOD I saw this thread. __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

03-29-2004, 03:57 PM	#61
chrisp420 Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: NY/MA Posts: 572	eurothumb, take my thread as a word to large traffic deals with them: http://board.gofuckyourself.com/show...hreadid=261051 __________________ icq: 327189899

03-29-2004, 02:38 PM	#52
Herb Kornfield Is on the 1 Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Philly Burbs Posts: 4,996	50 warnings.... ozzy and john...its been over an hour now since weve started trying to contact//// where are you at about this refund?

03-29-2004, 02:52 PM	#55
Herb Kornfield Is on the 1 Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Philly Burbs Posts: 4,996	Weve found that all of our hits came from bigmommahosting as well.....80% Russian / Chinese traffic.... The reps there still arent answering their emails / cell phones / office phones / ICQs to just take care of the refund Ive been asking for.... Starting to wonder here.....

03-29-2004, 03:14 PM	#57
ControlThy Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 1,909	Business would be so much easier without scammers...

03-29-2004, 04:06 PM	#62
Down_Under Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 262	notice how theyve gone all quite hits from jpgs hits not delivered hits from china 1100 hits form one ip no responses from support FAST ADULT TRAFFIC = SHIT

03-29-2004, 04:10 PM	#63
Joetanto So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: ICQ 306440898 Posts: 653	looks like i should have done better reading. bought 25k hits a few hours ago based on a post from KMR, maybe i should hold his balls until i get the traffic. I will post back here again after I get it all

03-29-2004, 04:31 PM	#65
SubSonic Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Spain / ICQ: 474-520-926 Posts: 1,383	interesting thread .. so here's a bump

03-29-2004, 04:31 PM	#66
Roger Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: MetroCity Posts: 3,181	I bought some clicked traffic from FAT and I got a few signups. All the other traffic brokers never gave me any signups whatsoever, I usually had to send the traffic to TGP's.

03-29-2004, 04:35 PM	#67
strobi Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Belgium Posts: 7,383	ouch and they just bought alot of sigssssss

03-29-2004, 04:40 PM	#69
SubSonic Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Spain / ICQ: 474-520-926 Posts: 1,383	seems, that the rep went to shit with that thread ...

03-29-2004, 04:43 PM	#71
the_wizz Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: hmmm..... Posts: 1,633	I had this same experience a month or so ago. Except my hits came in a two hour window on a saturday or sunday morning. Needless to say, I don't buy from them any more. __________________ Promote the Best

03-29-2004, 04:46 PM	#72
strobi Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Belgium Posts: 7,383	http://www.bigmommahosting.com/www/p...et5/Index.html hahaha!!! that page is wild! look at the status bar! Easypic... and alot of others too!

03-29-2004, 04:54 PM	#73
rowan Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 17,393	That's the problem with 404 traffic, brokers don't properly filter it and pass through img srcs as site loads. Even the biggies are not immune, I've had this happen with a large well known traffic guy. A particular thumb TGP had every thumb 404 (sounds familiar?) and so every time it was loaded about 100 img srcs got passed through to me as unique clicked traffic. They were really raw img srcs of course. There's a variable called HTTP_ACCEPT (I think) which specifies the type of data the browser will accept. If it's an img src then that field will not include the phrase "text/html" and it shouldn't be passed through to buyers.

03-29-2004, 08:00 PM	#75
Tracy Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: I AM AN IDIOT Posts: 416

03-29-2004, 08:43 PM	#76
Odin Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: au Posts: 2,545	<img src=http://thespacebulldog.com/Pics/chicken.gif> __________________ ICQ: 637//961--015

03-29-2004, 08:52 PM	#77
DaLord Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Denmark Posts: 3,318	This will be a bumpy bump...

03-29-2004, 10:23 PM	#78
Kevin2 Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 1,429	Thank goodness I read this thread. I was going to start purchasing traffic from them but there is now ways I'm doing that now. __________________ Webmasters Trade Traffic!!!

03-29-2004, 10:59 PM	#79
TheSenator Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: NJ Posts: 13,336	Can anyone list reputable Traffic Brokers? __________________ ISeekGirls.com since 2005

03-29-2004, 11:39 PM	#82
reynold Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Global Traveler Posts: 51,271	Thanks for the warning.

03-30-2004, 06:39 AM	#84
SS396chevelleSS Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: USA Posts: 1,692	I as well bought 10K off this company and got shit results, Only 4000 served and who knows how many fromt he same IP... pisses me off after seeing this, I was just going to cut my losses and figure it was shitty traffic but now I feel like I got fucked. Refund my money to baer at rochester dot rr dot com (like that will happen) it was a 50 dollar purchace. As of now i wouldnt recommend this company, ill repost if i get a refund __________________ Check out these awesome Blue Lights from KryptonBulbs.com Blue Headlights Great prices... Hyperwhites Better then SilverStars Sextoys Dildos vibrators and sex toy novelties Last edited by SS396chevelleSS; 03-30-2004 at 06:41 AM..

03-30-2004, 08:04 AM	#85
Tracy Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: I AM AN IDIOT Posts: 416	Where is good old Ozzy?

03-30-2004, 08:21 AM	#86
jft Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: By the river... Posts: 63	We bought a load of hits from F.A.T and it was utterly rubbish.... The links the traffic came from were all from pop up hell. Very unproductive traffic. We wont be using them again. __________________ http://www.slagcash.com - PROMOTE THE FILTHIEST FUCKING SLAGS ON THE NET!!!!!

03-30-2004, 08:26 AM	#87
jft Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: By the river... Posts: 63	okay board - i just wanna say - i got fucking flamed a while ago for suggesting FAT was bad service and shit value.. So i feel avenged to see all you fuckers moaning about them to0. 'FAST ADULT TRAFFIC ->>>>>' __________________ http://www.slagcash.com - PROMOTE THE FILTHIEST FUCKING SLAGS ON THE NET!!!!!

03-30-2004, 10:05 PM	#88
papa56 Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 155	[QUOTE]Originally posted by cluck [B]Some research. I get alot of hits from .jpg files from that server too. For example: http://www.bigmommahosting.com/www/s...dkrmrv0010.jpg My Norton Anti Virus was going crazy at that URL. Downloader.trojan