Fuck! > Al-Quaida's #2 Ayman al-Zawahri says they have briefcase Nukes.

[KRL]

Al-Qaida No. 2: We Have Briefcase Nukes

SYDNEY, Australia - Osama bin Laden (news - web sites)'s terror network claims to have bought ready-made nuclear weapons on the black market in central Asia, the biographer of al-Qaida's No. 2 leader was quoted as telling an Australian television station.

In an interview scheduled to be televised on Monday, Pakistani journalist Hamid Mir said Ayman al-Zawahri claimed that "smart briefcase bombs" were available on the black market. It was not clear when the interview between Mir and al-Zawahri took place.

U.S. intelligence agencies have long believed that al-Qaida attempted to acquire a nuclear device on the black market, but say there is no evidence it was successful.

In the interview with Australian Broadcasting Corp. television, parts of which were released Sunday, Mir recalled telling al-Zawahri it was difficult to believe that al-Qaida had nuclear weapons when the terror network didn't have the equipment to maintain or use them.

"Dr Ayman al-Zawahri laughed and he said `Mr. Mir, if you have $30 million, go to the black market in central Asia, contact any disgruntled Soviet scientist, and a lot of ... smart briefcase bombs are available,'" Mir said in the interview.

"They have contacted us, we sent our people to Moscow, to Tashkent, to other central Asian states and they negotiated, and we purchased some suitcase bombs," Mir quoted al-Zawahri as saying.

Al-Qaida has never hidden its interest in acquiring nuclear weapons.

The U.S. federal indictment of bin Laden charges that as far back as 1992 he "and others known and unknown, made efforts to obtain the components of nuclear weapons."

Bin Laden, in a November 2001 interview with a Pakistani journalist, boasted having hidden such components "as a deterrent." And in 1998, a Russian nuclear weapons design expert was investigated for allegedly working with bin Laden's Taliban allies.

It was revealed last month that Pakistan's top nuclear scientist had sold sensitive equipment and nuclear technology to Iran, Libya and North Korea (news - web sites), fueling fears the information could have also fallen into the hands of terrorists.

Earlier, Mir told Australian media that al-Zawahri also claimed to have visited Australia to recruit militants and collect funds.

"In those days, in early 1996, he was on a mission to organize his network all over the world," Mir was quoted as saying. "He told me he stopped for a while in Darwin (in northern Australia), he was ... looking for help and collecting funds."

Australia's Attorney-General Philip Ruddock said the government could not rule out the possibility that al-Zawahri visited Australia in the 1990s under a different name.

"Under his own name or any known alias he hasn't traveled to Australia," Ruddock told reporters Saturday. "That doesn't mean to say that he may not have come under some other false documentation, or some other alias that's not known to us."

Mir describe al-Zawahri as "the real brain behind Osama bin Laden."

"He is the real strategist, Osama bin Laden is only a front man," Mir was quoted as saying during the interview. "I think he is more dangerous than bin Laden."

Al-Zawahri ? an Egyptian surgeon ? is believed to be hiding in the rugged region around the Pakistan-Afghan border where U.S. and Pakistani troops are conducting a major operation against Taliban and al-Qaida forces.

He is said to have played a leading role in orchestrating the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks on the United States.

[TekayRoyal]

wish i didn't read that....that's scary

[powerbubba]

how about link to the story

[pornstar2pac]

Crazy shit is still gonna happen KRL.

[Illicit]

that is some scarey shit. lets hope that its not true.

[nathan_f]

Cool.

So this is where all the shit starts to go down right?

I'll be in the basement with the gun.

[Ic3m4nZ]

just go to yahoo.com it was there a few hours ago..

Florida is their next target probably.

[slackologist]

That's no good.

[Sami]

Not good, not good at all.

Run to iceland

[asuna]

talkers talk, doers do

[SomeCreep]

I've got a rocket in my pocket

[cluck]

Maybe instead of searching Iraq for WMD's that probably don't exist, we should have spent the money on intelligence missions to find the actual sources of WMD's that the bad guys are buying from.

Makes about as much sense as arresting college kids who sell dime bags in the "drug war" when the traffickers are easy as hell to get to.

[Jeff aka NIGHTfall]

Originally posted by Ic3m4nZ
Florida is their next target probably.

[Illicit]

Originally posted by Ic3m4nZ
just go to yahoo.com it was there a few hours ago..

Florida is their next target probably.

Disney !

[Vic Lagina]

Originally posted by Ic3m4nZ


Florida is their next target probably.

Seriously...what's in Florida? There are no hard targets...

I am not sure if these briefcase bombs are anything more than a dirty bomb...don't know if they have the potential to knock out a whole city...

Still, I hope it isn't true and it's just more scare tactics than anything.

[KRL]

Originally posted by Ic3m4nZ
just go to yahoo.com it was there a few hours ago..

Florida is their next target probably.

I doubt they'd do Florida. Its too spread out and there are hardly any skyscrapers.

My money is on LA. That is the center of the entertainment industry and creator of all the Western culture influences the Islamics despise so much.

[Axeman]

Man that is some scary shit.. damn

[rdunn404]

Originally posted by asuna
talkers talk, doers do

And terrorists do both.

[Vic Lagina]

Originally posted by KRL


I doubt they'd do Florida. Its too spread out and there are hardly any skyscrapers.

My money is on LA. That is the center of the entertainment industry and creator of all the Western culture influences the Islamics despise so much.

I agree with you there, KRL. L.A. seems long overdue for something bad to happen. I hope not, because I plan on moving back there within a year!

[KRL]

Originally posted by asuna
talkers talk, doers do

You have a short memory or something??

[mardigras]

Originally posted by cluck


Makes about as much sense as arresting college kids who sell dime bags in the "drug war" when the traffickers are easy as hell to get to.

Damn skippy!

Most likely the devices being spoken of if they exist are "dirty bombs" rather than true nuclear bombs. Either way, they could go a long way in terror detonated in the right places. Since these items are so hard to come by I don't think they would squander them on a penny ante targets but save them for those who's sticks have poked the hornets nest most.

[Col. Beauford D. Horton]

Originally posted by Vic Lagina


Seriously...what's in Florida? There are no hard targets...

I am not sure if these briefcase bombs are anything more than a dirty bomb...don't know if they have the potential to knock out a whole city...

Still, I hope it isn't true and it's just more scare tactics than anything.

They're fission bombs.. just like fat man & little boy. Not sure what the yields are on nukes that small, but the destruction would be a few blocks rather than a whole city.

[johnbosh]

damn that too fucking scary:x

[gornyhuy]

I don't see why they would target florida or even LA.

Why wouldn't they take the major attack straight to the lawn in front of the whitehouse? or a few blocks away the capitol building? Seems like they have already successfully spanked the best symbol of capitalism, now they need to spank the symbol of the west's power and the heart of its "war against Islam". The attack on the Pentagon thankfully was not nearly as effective or visually shocking as that of the WTC... probably because of the flight that went down in Pennsylvania. They must want to rectify that failure.

Just my

[slackologist]

I doubt they'd be sitting up in the mountains with a bunch of suitcase nukes though. They probably would have purchased them relativley close to their original targets.

[Jimbo]

Originally posted by KRL


You have a short memory or something??

duh, but did they talk about it first?

NO.

[pornstar2pac]

Originally posted by KRL


I doubt they'd do Florida. Its too spread out and there are hardly any skyscrapers.

My money is on LA. That is the center of the entertainment industry and creator of all the Western culture influences the Islamics despise so much.

The reason they won't do Florida is because KRL and Serge lives there


and soon, me.......

[slackologist]

Originally posted by Col. Beauford D. Horton


They're fission bombs.. just like fat man & little boy. Not sure what the yields are on nukes that small, but the destruction would be a few blocks rather than a whole city.

Radiation & fallout could be a problem that would extend a little further, the cleanup involved would be massive and its effects would be physically felt by generations of people over many years.

[sumphatpimp]

in a word

Bullshit !


all this crap is so secret but its in the papers everyday.


wtf ?


they were about to capture this second in command dude?

WFT happened ?

this is really begining to look like

Three Stooges Production

[hova]

if its true, that sucks bigtime

[makefuckingmoney]

propaganda

[Roger]

They probably do but a briefcase nuke is hardly effective.
Not hard to get them from former Soviet Union countries, not to mention North Korea.

[- Jesus Christ -]

PEOPLE UNITE! We Must Take Drastic action in covering all the bare breasts of every filthy statue in the country. As americans, it is our duty.*

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[Trax]

im not surprised at all
i can imagine exactly that happening

this terror thing is getting nervy

[latinasojourn]

the camel jockeys forget recent history.

if they detonate a nuclear devise they can look forward to any areas they habituate taken back to the stone age.

perhaps they missed the lesson on hiroshima and nagasaki.

it's too bad, but that's just how stupid these fucks are.

good find KRL.

[Tala]

The thought that Los Angeles would be hit scares the living shit out of me. My husband's family lives there, and that's where he grew up.

KRL, stop scaring your staffmembers.

[Roger]

Originally posted by latinasojourn
if they detonate a nuclear devise they can look forward to any areas they habituate taken back to the stone age.

perhaps they missed the lesson on hiroshima and nagasaki.

it's too bad, but that's just how stupid these fucks are.

They're suicidal maniacs. They're ready to blow up a nuke and become martyrs, do you think they care if they where nuked back? There whole world revolves around violence, they can't live without it.

[Roger]

What are the chances that the nuke was acquired from Pakistan? Wasn't Pakistan the only country who had diplomatic ties with the Taliban before 9/11?

[serious]

someone please explain the term "dirty bomb"

[69pornlinks]

Originally posted by makefuckingmoney
propaganda

keep the people so filled with fear that they don't realize their kids are getting killed and crippled for life becasue of a lie, and see jobs leaving the country...

[cluck]

Originally posted by serious
someone please explain the term "dirty bomb"

It's a regular bomb with dangerous radioactive material mixed in. So you wouldn't see a mushroom cloud or anything if the blew up a building, it'd just be like a regular bomb. It would cause problems for miles though because of the radiation. Permanent damage, making the area almost uninhabitable.

[gornyhuy]

Originally posted by serious
someone please explain the term "dirty bomb"

Regular explosive packed tightly with highly radioactive materials that are not weapons grade, but when blown up into a tiny particulates they can spread to a wide area causing massive radiotactive contamination and killing many many people with radiation poisoning etc.

Not to mention the mass terror of everyone in an urban area going apeshit because of it.

[mardigras]

Originally posted by slackologist

Radiation & fallout could be a problem that would extend a little further, the cleanup involved would be massive and its effects would be physically felt by generations of people over many years.

Material that would fit in a suitcase (unlikely to be anything pure but even if it was) would most likely affect only those who came in close contact with it. Probably much less than a block but further contamination would depend on the movement of those first affected before being alerted. Would our government tell us a nuclear device was utilized if there were no "explosion"?

[Agent White]

If they have them, why haven't they used them?

It's like me saying I have some top grade hardcore content that will make me rich but I'm not gonna sell it yet, I think I'll stick with eating cup-a-soup for a few years instead.


I may be an amateur when it comes to subjects such as nuclear fission, but if memory serves correct, a nuclear fission reaction requires that the nuclear material to be detonated (uranium 238?) needs to be imploded on all sides at once. Essentially, a fission nuclear bomb is spherical in shape, explosives on the outside, nuclear fuel on the inside. The size of sphere you could fit inside a standard briefcase would be so small that no explosive on the planet would be powerful enough to start the reaction.

Again, maybe someone is confused as to what a dirty bomb is. A dirty bomb doesn't really kill people, it just makes a large area uninhabitable. Kind of like when I've had too much Nepalese food the day before.

[69pornlinks]

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[slackologist]

"Congressman Weldon alarmingly explained that the Russians developed 132 of these "suitcase nukes" and can only account for 48. The Russians reported that they could have been destroyed or they could have been sold during the breakup of the old U.S.S.R."

[slackologist]

A "suitcase" bomb is a very compact and portable nuclear weapon and could have the dimensions of 60 x 40 x 20 centimeters or 24 x 16 x 8 inches. The smallest possible bomb-like object would be a single critical mass of plutonium (or U-233) at maximum density under normal conditions. The Pu-239 weighs 10.5 kg and is 10.1 cm across. It doesn't take much more than a single critical mass to cause significant explosions ranging from 10-20 tons. These types of weapons can also be as big as two footlockers. The warhead consists of a tube with two pieces of uranium, which, when rammed together, would cause a blast. Some sort of firing unit and a device that would need to be decoded to cause detonation may be included in the "suitcase."

Another portable weapon is a "backpack" bomb. The Soviet nuclear backpack system was made in the 1960s for use against NATO targets in time of war and consists of three "coffee can-sized" aluminum canisters in a bag. All three must be connected to make a single unit in order to explode. The detonator is about 6 inches long. It has a 3-to-5 kiloton yield, depending on the efficiency of the explosion. It's kept powered during storage by a battery line connected to the canisters.

Effects

External radiation ? occurs when either part of or all of the body is exposed from an external source, such as when a person is standing near the site of where a radiological device is set off and he or she is exposed to radiation, which can be absorbed by the body or can pass completely through it.

Contamination ? occurs when radioactive materials in the form of solids, liquids or gases are released into the air and contaminate people externally, internally or both. This happens when body parts such as the skin become contaminated and/or if the harmful material gets inside the body via the lungs, gut or wounds.

Incorporation of radioactive material ? occurs when body cells, tissues and organs such as bone, liver, thyroid or kidney, are contaminated.

Gamma radiation can travel many meters in the air and many centimeters once in human tissue; therefore they represent a major external threat. Dense material is needed as a shield. Beta radiation can travel meters in air and can moderately penetrate human skin, but clothing and some protection can help. Alpha radiation travels a very short distance through the air and can't penetrate the skin, but can be harmful if inhaled, swallowed or absorbed through open wounds.

Radiation in the first hour after an explosion is about 90 percent, with it going down to about 1 percent of the original level after two days. Radiation only drops to trace levels after 300 hours.

Symptoms

People in the immediate vicinity would likely die from the force of the conventional explosion itself. Some survivors of the blast might die of radiation poisoning in the weeks afterward. Those farther away from the explosion might suffer radiation sickness in the days and weeks afterward, but recover. Over time, risks of cancer in the affected area would rise, but perhaps only slightly.

A mix of physical symptoms must be used to judge the seriousness of exposure. Impact of radiation poisoning also changes if the body has experienced burns or physical trauma. In the case of treatable victims, extensive medical treatment may be needed for more than two months after exposure.

Some symptoms may include vomiting, headache, fatigue, weakness, diarrhea, thermal burn-like skin effects, secondary infections, reoccurring bleeding and hair loss.

Treatment

If detection and decontamination occurs soon after exposure, about 95 percent of external radioactive material can be removed by taking off the victim's clothing and shoes and washing with water. Further decontamination may require the use of bleaches or other mild abrasives.

Treatment of a victim within the first six weeks to two months after exposure is vital and is determined by what types of radioactive isotopes to which the victim was exposed.

Medical personnel will treat victims for hemorrhage and shock. Open wounds are usually irrigated to cleanse them of any radioactive traces. Amputation of limbs may occur if a wound is highly contaminated and functional recovery isn't likely.

If radioactive material is ingested, treatment is given to reduce absorption and enhance excretion and elimination. It includes stomach pumping or giving the victim laxatives or aluminum antacids, among other things.

If radioactive material has gotten into a victim's internal organs and tissues, treatment includes giving the patient various blocking and diluting agents, such as potassium iodide, to decrease absorption. Mobilizing agents such as ammonium chloride, diuretics, expectorants and inhalants are given to a patient to force the tissues to release the harmful isotopes. Other treatments involve chelating agents. When ingested, these agents bind with some metals more strongly than others to form a stable complex that, when soluble, are more easily excreted through the kidneys.

http://www.nationalterroralert.com/r...itcasenuke.htm

[BVF]

Sometimes there is a benefit to living in a shit town like I do. I have no worries about them wasting one of those 30 million dollar bombs where I live.

[insanesurfer]

If they have them there would be three targets in my mind. LA. NewYork and Washington

[Shoehorn!]

Originally posted by cluck
Maybe instead of searching Iraq for WMD's that probably don't exist, we should have spent the money on intelligence missions to find the actual sources of WMD's that the bad guys are buying from.

Makes about as much sense as arresting college kids who sell dime bags in the "drug war" when the traffickers are easy as hell to get to.

Yeah, but don't forget who you're talking about. The government rarely does anything sensible.