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Old 03-18-2004, 10:21 PM   #101
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Old 03-18-2004, 10:23 PM   #102
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It would be tougher to find 2 famous people that supported the war, and probably a majority or those that served opposed it when they returned.
Not much has changed today, Hollywood has never been known to be anything other than leftists.

You are right I am too young to remember that first hand, what I know is from reading about how both sides felt. As I said I form my own opinion.
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Old 03-18-2004, 10:23 PM   #103
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Maybe you are not a democrat but your political agenda resembles one, thats for sure. Left is left in my book.
The Democrats are left?

Bwaahahahahahahahahahahahahaaha!

Mate, they don't have a friggin' clue what left is. They represent the rich just as much as the Republican party.

The left is on the side of the average working man and woman and fights for their rights.
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Old 03-18-2004, 10:23 PM   #104
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Had to go out and run some errands man... back now with some brews.

It's 3:20pm Friday here... the weekend is upon us!

Cheers!
9:22 here, ill have to remember that yuou guys are that far ahead of us.

"waiting for a hell of a ride,
getting evil, tonight."

cheers man...

i dont know why i post in these dumb political threads. id rather watch mp3s upload...

ill up some shit, stay tuned.

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Old 03-18-2004, 10:24 PM   #105
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Not much has changed today, Hollywood has never been known to be anything other than leftists.
typical ignorance.

if thats the case, why Passion Of The Christ doing so good?

oh wait, jesus was a leftist hippie!

too damn the jews killed him!

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Old 03-18-2004, 10:24 PM   #106
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hah. who ever tells you that the US is in IRAQ to help Iraqi's is lying to you. The US is there to help themselves. That's the bottom line.
What ever the politicians say it's down to the soldiers on the ground to give the right impression.
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9:22 here, ill have to remember that yuou guys are that far ahead of us.

"waiting for a hell of a ride,
getting evil, tonight."

cheers man...

i dont know why i post in these dumb political threads. id rather watch mp3s upload...

ill up some shit, stay tuned.

Hehehehehehe... nice. I'm waitin' and sippin'

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9:22 here, ill have to remember that yuou guys are that far ahead of us.
at least it's getting towards a full 24hours and the drinking times are kinda parallel better than night and day.
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at least it's getting towards a full 24hours and the drinking times are kinda parallel better than night and day.
cheers my time travelling future brothers, see you tomorrow, or something ;)

if i died tonight, it would actually be tomorrow where you are.

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last word?

where in this have i even tried to argue much of a point with you?

Where other than negating your claims have i even formed an opinion really?

you make me out to be worth than I have even professed to be, thats the beauty of being a wacko... i say one thing, you go off because "all lefties are the same" hahaha who is the stereotyper? who is the ignorant?

you seem to think democrats and lefties are beneath you in the first place, so debating why I post with you is silly, my opinion doesnt matter to you. It never will, thats why I havent shared it.

id rather throw dimes before the swine.

ah you were a medic, thats why you got pissed, i called you HAWKEYE, struggling alky too? ;) its ok, me too guy.

Trust me I have not made you out to be more than you profess to be.

No one said lefties are "beneath" me, I disagree with their viewpoints, I dont like their stances on many things. There are many people who I respect as democrats who I dont agree with as far as their political stances. I take everyones comments seriously, if you truly cared about your political beliefs then you WOULD share your comments in hopes to provoke thought with people who read this thread, not just myself. If you do not share your wisdom, no one can learn from you.

Call me what you wish, just dont call me a traitor. I love my country and there is nothing anyone can do to change that.
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Call me what you wish, just dont call me a traitor. I love my country and there is nothing anyone can do to change that.
My country, right or wrong, eh?
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Call me what you wish, just dont call me a traitor. I love my country and there is nothing anyone can do to change that.
see thats the thing, I never did.

you got all hostile because you seem to have a propensity to assume things about what you call "lefties"

anyway man, seriously, drop it with me.

I dont care one way or the other, you still gonna die, im still gonna die.

You can go die in Iraq, ill stay here and die in america.

hopefully, in the SOuth.

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Old 03-18-2004, 10:33 PM   #114
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typical ignorance.

if thats the case, why Passion Of The Christ doing so good?

oh wait, jesus was a leftist hippie!

too damn the jews killed him!

And why are so many people saying Gibson will never work in the industry again? He took a chance, good for him, many of the people in hollywood are more pissed that he did it himself and hyped it better than they could.
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And why are so many people saying Gibson will never work in the industry again? He took a chance, good for him, many of the people in hollywood are more pissed that he did it himself and hyped it better than they could.
Like he needs to.

he invested 25 mill, and made 230 million last week.

hahaha

Road Warrior never die!!!!

And ill be the first one to say hang that fucking xstian!!!
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My country, right or wrong, eh?
I will stand up when the country I live in is wrong. I have my beliefs and dont go by what people tell me I form my own opinion. If I feel there is something wrong that we did I will admin it, right now the only thing I see that we did wrong was that we didnt kill Sadam and Usama long before now. We would all be much better off if we had, regardless of the country you live in.
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Like he needs to.

he invested 25 mill, and made 230 million last week.

hahaha

Road Warrior never die!!!!

And ill be the first one to say hang that fucking xstian!!!
At least we agree on that , I think it was a good thing he did, stand up for what he believes, everyone has that right, even you
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even you
yeah but when we do, you label us hippies, you label me democrat, instead of american.

you let me position on one thing dictate where i stand on another.

when you die, think of that taste of freedom, you never really had it to begin with.

next time you buy gas, think about how free you are.

as i said, learn about "peak oil" youll see how your reality really is.

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Those of you bashing the soldiers who are over there fighting for your right to sit here and spew shit are just fucked. These men & women fight for our country and you dog them, move out of the country and go live in france you fucks.

Support your country, one day it could be your son or daughter fighting for your right to live freely.
Please explain how this war was protecting the US?

Saddam was no threat to the US, he had no WMDs and even if he did no intention of using them except against Muslims or Israel.

The US has lost a lot of respect and influence in the world.

More Muslims hate the US than before.

US economy is worse than before the war.

The "War on Terror" was slowed down because of the war.

So please tell us all why the soldiers were fighting for the US. Bush wanted this war for reasons only he knows. Just because he's the President it does not make him infallible.
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I was serious.. I don't want those commie fucks feeding me left wing bias anymore.
Agreed, those Bush followers are a bunch of commies. They think Iraq was invaded for the greater good and to free those poor Iraqis. Even when it's about oil, they think that it's not about corporations making more money, it's about them having to pay less for oil even though the prices are rising. They think everyone should be like them and enjoy the same living standards. Stupid commies.
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yeah but when we do, you label us hippies, you label me democrat, instead of american.

you let me position on one thing dictate where i stand on another.

when you die, think of that taste of freedom, you never really had it to begin with.

next time you buy gas, think about how free you are.

as i said, learn about "peak oil" youll see how your reality really is.

http://www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net/


haha no one labeled you a "hippie", I did however, unjustly label you a democrat, and for that I apologize, I assumed due to your stance in this thread.

I wont even get on the oil subject as that is a whole different issue and how many left wingers wont let us occupy 2k acres of land in alaska to make the U.S. less dependant on foreign oil, despite the fact that alaskan authorities agree with the fight to get mine the oils from Alaska, but I will drop it there.
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haha no one labeled you a "hippie", I did however, unjustly label you a democrat, and for that I apologize, I assumed due to your stance in this thread.

I wont even get on the oil subject as that is a whole different issue and how many left wingers wont let us occupy 2k acres of land in alaska to make the U.S. less dependant on foreign oil, despite the fact that alaskan authorities agree with the fight to get mine the oils from Alaska, but I will drop it there.
its easy for hicks in Texas not to care about Alaska!

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due to your stance in this thread.
what is my stance again?

please tell me...

i have forgotten.
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I will stand up when the country I live in is wrong. I have my beliefs and dont go by what people tell me I form my own opinion. If I feel there is something wrong that we did I will admin it, right now the only thing I see that we did wrong was that we didnt kill Sadam and Usama long before now. We would all be much better off if we had, regardless of the country you live in.
Many people feel the world would be a better place with out Bush and that he is true force of evil in the world today. It all depends on your perspective and values.

Tell me, how much world travel have you done... how much of the world have you seen? Or is all you know American culture and values?
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Please explain how this war was protecting the US?

Saddam was no threat to the US, he had no WMDs and even if he did no intention of using them except against Muslims or Israel.

The US has lost a lot of respect and influence in the world.

More Muslims hate the US than before.

US economy is worse than before the war.

The "War on Terror" was slowed down because of the war.

So please tell us all why the soldiers were fighting for the US. Bush wanted this war for reasons only he knows. Just because he's the President it does not make him infallible.
The war was not only protecting the U.S. by removing a terrorist supporter from power, but it was also protecting countries from around the world from power, as well as saving thousands of lives from persecution within the country of Iraq. Removing him from power is not bad for anyone.

So just because he "MAY" not have opposed an immediate threat to the U.S. he shouldn't have been ousted? We will probably never know if he did have WMD's the fact of the matter is that he was working on them during the first gulf war and his intentions were clear.

As far as the economy, it was sinking well before GW got into office, I sure as hell remember losing a shitload of money during the stock market decline when Clinton was in office and when CEO's were lying about their books.

As far as the president being infallible, I never said he was, although I didnt agree with Clinton and his beliefs I still would have stood behind him if we went to war or anything else. I stand behind the president who is serving our country, even though I may not agree with their political agenda.
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im gonna abondaon this thread for a good old fashioned, mp3 drinking thread.

sorry Acid Max, im just looking for some fun.

too bad neocons cant party with left wing satanist pagan terrorists like me, thanks for all the good work you did Hawkeye.

JS - time for a another thread man.

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Many people feel the world would be a better place with out Bush and that he is true force of evil in the world today. It all depends on your perspective and values.

Tell me, how much world travel have you done... how much of the world have you seen? Or is all you know American culture and values?
I will be the first to say I have not done a lot of world travel, I however, dont believe that makes my ability to have an opinion any less important.

I do only know about my world, but I do learn from people around the world, I have many friends from Europe, Turkey, Israel, India etc, and I am constantly discussing culture with them.

Many people thought the world would be a better place without Saddam too, correct? Do you think Saddam should still be in power? Do you think we should stop hunting Usama?
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Did you mean, you remember reading about such an event, or watching on tv?

Or were you alive during the roman empire?

this confused me so i gotta clarify
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Did you mean, you remember reading about such an event, or watching on tv?

Or were you alive during the roman empire?

this confused me so i gotta clarify
reincarnation man, i was there.

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Your armed forces and political leaders are no better.

Ever hear of the My Lai massacre? 514 Vietnamese civilians murdered by U.S. soldiers in one day, mostly women, children and the elderly. Not one shot was fired at U.S. troops.
Calley was court-martialed.
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Yeah, I'm sure that if roles were reversed there would be Iraqi gangbangs on an hourly basis in your subdivision! What you have to realize is that the people of Iraq didn't have any "shit" to rip off! Everything that was taken was from Presidential Palaces and other Dictator dream homes! It's not the 60's anymore so get over it, hippie.
The people of Iraq didn't have shit to rip off because they had been ripped of to pay for those palaces. Therefore they, and their contents, belong to the Iraqi people and U.S. soldiers should NOT be profiting from stolen items. This is looting and should be punished according to military law.
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Old 03-18-2004, 11:09 PM   #136
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I will be the first to say I have not done a lot of world travel, I however, dont believe that makes my ability to have an opinion any less important.

I do only know about my world, but I do learn from people around the world, I have many friends from Europe, Turkey, Israel, India etc, and I am constantly discussing culture with them.

Many people thought the world would be a better place without Saddam too, correct? Do you think Saddam should still be in power? Do you think we should stop hunting Usama?
I think Bush is more of a threat to the world than Saddam. Should Saddam be in power? Probably not, but that is something his people should decide, not yours.

You went in there to serve your interests, not theirs.

Personally, I can understand all of the hatred towards the west. All we do is exploit the third world and consume the world's resources. Is that moral? I think we need to look at the way we do things and the impact it has on other nations and people, and maybe we will begin to understand why we are the object of so much hatred.

Tell me one thing your nation has done that you think is immoral wrong?
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Old 03-18-2004, 11:13 PM   #137
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Calley was court-martialed.
And what was his punishment for machine gunning to death over one hundred women, childen (including babies) and old people?

In the end, he only served only days in Fort Leavenworth, before being transferred back to Fort Benning, where he was placed under house arrest. His sentence was repeatedly reduced. Finally, he was pardoned by President Nixon. He was paroled in November, 1974.

Justice... I love it.
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Old 03-18-2004, 11:26 PM   #138
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And what was his punishment for machine gunning to death over one hundred women, childen (including babies) and old people?

In the end, he only served only days in Fort Leavenworth, before being transferred back to Fort Benning, where he was placed under house arrest. His sentence was repeatedly reduced. Finally, he was pardoned by President Nixon. He was paroled in November, 1974.

Justice... I love it.
My point was that he was not treated as a hero for his conduct at My Lai. My Lai went a hell of a long way towards exposing what was really going on in Viet Nam and changed a lot of minds. He was a scapegoat. Try the U.S. Army. They created him.
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My point was that he was not treated as a hero for his conduct at My Lai. My Lai went a hell of a long way towards exposing what was really going on in Viet Nam and changed a lot of minds. He was a scapegoat. Try the U.S. Army. They created him.
Fair enough.
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Old 03-18-2004, 11:40 PM   #140
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You act as if this is some thing that is exclusive to the American Armed Forces. Seriously, on the day Berlin fell 80,000 cases of rape were reported, and you act as if stealing some of Saddam's crap is the work of the devilish American thugs.

I am not for the war, but I do honestly respect those who are in it. I realise many of them are 'brainwashed', and not too intelligent, but I also realise that they are the people who put their lives on the line for what they believe in.

The way you come off in this thread is quite the opposite to this. You refer to the American armed forces in a manner that would suggest you believe they are all thugs and thieves, and thus not worthy on any respect.
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Mmmm... I'll have to check it out.

Missed that one somehow.
not much of film, but it relates a little to what you're talking about. of course you can just guess how things turn out in the end for the American soldiers...
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I think Bush is more of a threat to the world than Saddam
there's an understatement.
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You act as if this is some thing that is exclusive to the American Armed Forces. Seriously, on the day Berlin fell 80,000 cases of rape were reported, and you act as if stealing some of Saddam's crap is the work of the devilish American thugs.

I am not for the war, but I do honestly respect those who are in it. I realise many of them are 'brainwashed', and not too intelligent, but I also realise that they are the people who put their lives on the line for what they believe in.
Agreed.
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