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http · 03-21-2004, 12:30 PM

EPASSPORTE all the way

I cannot believe people complaining about the fees. O.k. they aren't as cheap ay paypal but you gotta look at your possibilities. And it's still within reason

If $70 for the first year (including 2 VISA cards, a physical ATM and a virtual) is killing you then oh well

This is from the perspective of a webmaster. I don't know about their fees from a sponsor's viewpoint or a paysite operator.

Only downside compared to paypal: Epassporte won't let you wire remaining funds to your bank account ( as far as I know)

On the other side, you get an ATM card and can pull cash at like 800,000 (I think) ATM cash dispensers worldwide. But still, that's not a real solution long term. I wish they could do something about the "problem" of having way too much money in your epassporte. Pulling it all cash at ATM isn't really a solution. The bank won't appreciate me coming with bundles of cash every other week to deposit it in my account lol

Been two times in island vacations with the ATM card and it just works EVERYWHERE

As for getting refused with the virtual visa (for online purchases of goods and services), I had that happen once, however most of the time it DOES work. It works at amazon for instance. And at my host too, etc, etc

If they only would let me send money to my bank account...
I will have to ask them I guess whether they do this on request

Let's all stick to epassporte. Yahoo would have been the ONLY other option but they aren't international and you can bet they'll get cocky about adult biz too

-HF · 03-21-2004, 01:03 PM

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Originally posted by http
As for getting refused with the virtual visa (for online purchases of goods and services), I had that happen once, however most of the time it DOES work. It works at amazon for instance. And at my host too, etc, etc

so, you were lucky, i gave it 3 different tries and all 3 were refused. that's not exactly the best turn out, considering they claim

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Originally posted by shaliza
Epassporte gives your surfers an actual visa account that they can use ANYWHERE visa is accepted.

it is not them getting the bad rep with the seller, it's the user of the card.

and the CC verification is way too much hassle as well. i saw someone mention similar probs in the other paypal alternatives thread, so it's obviously not just me.

if epassporte can fix these two issues, i'd be a more than happy user of their services again. until then, my account will sleep.

riosluts · 03-21-2004, 01:13 PM

For $70 i though u get only 1 physical card. I just hope the card works at an ATM so i can withdraw from it twice a month

sperbonzo · 03-21-2004, 01:15 PM

You may also want to look at Duocash as an addiltional way to process transactions along with your credit card processor.

We enable pre-paid phone cards to be used, which means that we have nothing to do with VISA/MC and we are NOT subject to the credit card association regulations.

We are not looking to be a replacement for credit cards, but rather an anonymous, additional method to get customers who might otherwise not want, or be able, to give CC# to adult sites.
Our system also works very well for micropayments as there is no per transaction fee of 15 to 50 cents like CC transactions.

Perhaps you may want to take a look at Duocash

http://www.duocash.com/merchants.jsp

We are not in the business of selling phone cards. The problem with earlier business models has been distribution of proprietary cards. The retailers won?t stock the cards if the customers aren?t asking for them. The consumers aren?t aware of the cards if they aren?t on retailers shelves. It?s a chicken and egg type of issue.

In our case, we have done something different. We are taking a product that is ALREADY on the shelves, in distribution online, and in call centers. We are enabling the existing phone cards that are already on the market and being distributed, to be used by consumers to purchase digital content on the internet. This also avoids the issue of a single-use card that won?t be carried by retailers and distributors because of perception problems associated with a card that is specific to adult, gaming, etc?

We are putting together some VERY large deals that will be implemented in the next 60 days or so that will put us all over the US and Canada, and we are in discussions to expand to Australia and the EU.

You can contact me on my mobile or my email at any time for any questions you might have

PbG · 03-21-2004, 01:38 PM

Big MISTAKE! You should search for feedback. Their customer service is the absolute worst!!! I always feel like I'm talking to a fucking minor over there and nothing gets done. Still waiting on a response to two tickets submitted four times in three months. Even called them and always they respond we will get the finance department to fix/refund/make adjustment.

Now if I had a nickel fo revery fucking time they said that . . .
We're considering gottapayand payingez.com to replace them.

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I signed up today under you with your MP sig link code...They look good.

PbG · 03-21-2004, 01:46 PM

Exactly that is why I called Yahoo Pay Direct twice to be sure! No adult merchandising at all! That is because they are using a bank HSBNC Iif I remember correctly. It's their bank that prohibits it.

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Originally posted by ravo

Where do you see that? Their TOS makes no reference to that, as far as I can see.

Kimmykim · 03-21-2004, 02:43 PM

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Originally posted by Big Roi
e-gold.

OK not too many surfers use it.
But neither paypal nor epassporte are confidential in the least.
e-gold is.

I guess if nobody minds having their checkbook open to the world then epassporte is excellent.

Wow there big Roi, I guess that expose I saw a couple of weeks ago on Fox News about serious issues with e-gold must not have been true...

There are things called the Patriot Act and Visa's Know Your Customer Rule that are the reasoning behind ePassporte, Paypal, your bank, your card companies, knowing a little about you before they allow you to process large sums of money through their systems.

ePassporte is the best alternative to Paypal for adult companies, our background is in adult payment processing, and we're very accessible to people in the community.

ePassporte offers several options for account holders, including a Visa Electron card that can be used at ATMs worldwide. The Virtual Visa is strictly for online usage but 90% of the times I've used mine, it has been successfully -- the places I found that wouldn't take it were due to the way their processing was set up, not due to the ePassporte card.

One of the best things about Paypal is the ability to transfer money between accounts instantly and immediately, and ePassporte has that feature inherent in it from the time you set up the account.

All in all, ePassporte

slackologist · 03-21-2004, 02:55 PM

some great info, thanks people. ePassporte seems to be fairly popular despite a few problems.

Kimmykim · 03-21-2004, 02:57 PM

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Originally posted by slackologist
some great info, thanks people. ePassporte seems to be fairly popular despite a few problems.

Nothing is perfect, I'll be the first one to say that. But we're getting pretty close ;)

BadBrad · 03-21-2004, 04:23 PM

Check out www.firepay.com

tonkagunner · 04-15-2004, 06:05 PM

do any of these companies do re-occurring transactions?

03-21-2004, 01:13 PM	#53
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03-21-2004, 01:15 PM	#54
sperbonzo I'd rather be on my boat. Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 9,748	You may also want to look at Duocash as an addiltional way to process transactions along with your credit card processor. We enable pre-paid phone cards to be used, which means that we have nothing to do with VISA/MC and we are NOT subject to the credit card association regulations. We are not looking to be a replacement for credit cards, but rather an anonymous, additional method to get customers who might otherwise not want, or be able, to give CC# to adult sites. Our system also works very well for micropayments as there is no per transaction fee of 15 to 50 cents like CC transactions. Perhaps you may want to take a look at Duocash http://www.duocash.com/merchants.jsp We are not in the business of selling phone cards. The problem with earlier business models has been distribution of proprietary cards. The retailers won?t stock the cards if the customers aren?t asking for them. The consumers aren?t aware of the cards if they aren?t on retailers shelves. It?s a chicken and egg type of issue. In our case, we have done something different. We are taking a product that is ALREADY on the shelves, in distribution online, and in call centers. We are enabling the existing phone cards that are already on the market and being distributed, to be used by consumers to purchase digital content on the internet. This also avoids the issue of a single-use card that won?t be carried by retailers and distributors because of perception problems associated with a card that is specific to adult, gaming, etc? We are putting together some VERY large deals that will be implemented in the next 60 days or so that will put us all over the US and Canada, and we are in discussions to expand to Australia and the EU. You can contact me on my mobile or my email at any time for any questions you might have __________________ Michael Sperber / Acella Financial LLC/ Online Payment Processing [email protected] / http://Acellafinancial.com/ ICQ 177961090 / Tel +1 909 NET BILL / Skype msperber

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04-15-2004, 06:05 PM	#61
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03-21-2004, 12:30 PM	#51
http Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 1,811	EPASSPORTE all the way I cannot believe people complaining about the fees. O.k. they aren't as cheap ay paypal but you gotta look at your possibilities. And it's still within reason If $70 for the first year (including 2 VISA cards, a physical ATM and a virtual) is killing you then oh well This is from the perspective of a webmaster. I don't know about their fees from a sponsor's viewpoint or a paysite operator. Only downside compared to paypal: Epassporte won't let you wire remaining funds to your bank account ( as far as I know) On the other side, you get an ATM card and can pull cash at like 800,000 (I think) ATM cash dispensers worldwide. But still, that's not a real solution long term. I wish they could do something about the "problem" of having way too much money in your epassporte. Pulling it all cash at ATM isn't really a solution. The bank won't appreciate me coming with bundles of cash every other week to deposit it in my account lol Been two times in island vacations with the ATM card and it just works EVERYWHERE As for getting refused with the virtual visa (for online purchases of goods and services), I had that happen once, however most of the time it DOES work. It works at amazon for instance. And at my host too, etc, etc If they only would let me send money to my bank account... I will have to ask them I guess whether they do this on request Let's all stick to epassporte. Yahoo would have been the ONLY other option but they aren't international and you can bet they'll get cocky about adult biz too

03-21-2004, 02:55 PM	#58
slackologist Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Earth Posts: 2,379	some great info, thanks people. ePassporte seems to be fairly popular despite a few problems.