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Old 03-18-2004, 04:15 PM   #1
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Best PayPal Alternative?

There are other things like paypal around, what is the next best(if not better) thing?
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Old 03-18-2004, 04:23 PM   #2
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Old 03-18-2004, 04:24 PM   #3
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Old 03-18-2004, 04:25 PM   #4
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Old 03-18-2004, 04:25 PM   #5
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would be interested in one to use as payment system on a aduklt site...

it sucks paypal won't do that.. :/
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Old 03-18-2004, 04:27 PM   #6
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Old 03-18-2004, 04:31 PM   #8
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Old 03-18-2004, 04:35 PM   #9
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ePassporte but it's not nearly as widely used as paypal
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the only thing that sucks is that most people use paypal. so finding someone else with it is harder.

but still a good company.
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Old 03-18-2004, 04:49 PM   #12
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the only thing that sucks is that most people use paypal. so finding someone else with it is harder.

but still a good company.
yeah, i'm guessing this is the next most used service.. does epassporte have anything over paypal as far as what they offer, what they can do etc?
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Old 03-18-2004, 04:49 PM   #13
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Yahoo Direct pay??
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into..... I still have paypal
but some fucktard, charged
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Old 03-18-2004, 07:59 PM   #14
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How about MoneyBookers? They accept adult sites. Anyone using them?
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Yahoo Pay direct does not allow adult anything . . .


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Thats what I'm looking
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but some fucktard, charged
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Old 03-18-2004, 10:21 PM   #16
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ePassporte but it's not nearly as widely used as paypal
I agree totally... there's no "real" substitute when it comes to PP's popularity
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Old 03-18-2004, 10:22 PM   #17
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I think you can only fund the account by bank... so no credit card option
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Old 03-18-2004, 10:42 PM   #18
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Old 03-19-2004, 05:56 PM   #19
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Old 03-19-2004, 05:57 PM   #20
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Old 03-19-2004, 06:04 PM   #21
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Beaver pay changed to allresell.com and I can tell you they SUCK!!!!


When it was beaver pay it was good. I've never had a charge back through beaver, paypal or storm, but as soon as beaver changed over to allresell, bang....4 charge backs. I sent them 3 e-mails about it, and they never responded. I called and they told me to send e-mails which I explained I did already 3 times, and gave her the dates, her response *Oh well you have to e-maila gain*

I called them 2 days ago to ask what the hold up is on my 1400.00 that they're holding (all seperate withdraws) and they said they'd get back to me...still haven't and they still have my money

Do not go with them.
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Old 03-19-2004, 06:15 PM   #22
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yea definatley epassporte
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Old 03-19-2004, 08:14 PM   #23
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e-gold.

OK not too many surfers use it.
But neither paypal nor epassporte are confidential in the least.
e-gold is.

It is great for business-to-business in the adult community, and everyone should use it. For one thing, it is instant. paypal is like 3-4 days if you are lucky.
e-gold is more reliable, too.

I guess if nobody minds having their checkbook open to the world then epassporte is excellent.
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Old 03-19-2004, 08:41 PM   #24
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Epassporte seems to be growing.

So I would say epassporte
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Old 03-19-2004, 09:57 PM   #25
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yeah i guess epassporte but you lose $70 automaticaly for joining em. $35 to issue the card and $35 for the yearly fee.
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Old 03-19-2004, 10:12 PM   #26
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yeah i guess epassporte but you lose $70 automaticaly for joining em. $35 to issue the card and $35 for the yearly fee.
i didnt know that, thats really shit
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Old 03-19-2004, 10:28 PM   #27
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looks like epassporte is going to pick up a lot of business from this. may have to join due to the sheer numbers of other webmasters joining.
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Old 03-20-2004, 06:04 AM   #29
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If PayPal alternatives would just get their shit together, like customer service and cards that work in more atm's all would be good.
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Old 03-20-2004, 07:21 AM   #32
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Moneybookers all the way.. credit card is of course available and you can even fund with your mobile...
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Where do you see that? Their TOS makes no reference to that, as far as I can see.
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Old 03-20-2004, 08:46 AM   #38
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Are people not happy with paypal these days? I'm guessing you folks using other companies do for a reason. Some of these options look good.
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Are people not happy with paypal these days? I'm guessing you folks using other companies do for a reason. Some of these options look good.
Paypal has recently closed a few high profile adult accounts, ARS and Choker to be specific.

I guess they no longer allow even B2B adult transaction anymore (they used to).

Although we still have an active Paypal account, we are looking for alternatives;
- Yahoo PayDirect only allows US residents/companies
- epassporte, pretty good, but fees are high for peer-to-peer
- moneybookers - we just opened an acct, looks good; they allow adult, low fees, and Paypal-like functionality.

Any comments about the above; I especially curious about moneybookers; anyone have any longer-term experience with them?
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Moneybookers is a service from the bookie Gamebookers so pretty solid. Working great for me and easy to get verified (the reason why I don't use paypal). Haven't experienced any problems so far.
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yeah, i'm guessing this is the next most used service.. does epassporte have anything over paypal as far as what they offer, what they can do etc?
Epassporte gives your surfers an actual visa account that they can use ANYWHERE visa is accepted. We can set it up just like paypal where your users click, open an account simply transfer the funds to you.

Email me for more information. We can process adult transactions no problem.

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There is nothing in their terms that says this. I have been over it a few times and use the server regualrly. I have spoken with a customer service person and they have no issue with what I do. I am just another customer using their service.

Paypal seems to have gone from not processing for adult sites to not letting people who are involved in the adult industry use their service. That is discrimination, if I'm not mistaken.

http://paydirect.yahoo.com

The only negative about Paydirect is that you have to be in the US to have an account. An account holder can send anyone in the world funds, so you're not at a total loss for international transfers.
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just wait for the check to arrive. Like that you dont lose alot of money in fee's. I know its a pain in the ass going to the bank but that might be the best alternative
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Could consider 2CheckOut depending on what you are selling. They dont accept most adult products, but they do accept lingerie sales, fetish sites (if no nudity is shown), web design and *maybe* traffic brokers and some other sidelines. They also take dating sites now. But they wont allow anything with nudity in it - the fetish sites are kinda borderline.

>> http://www.2checkout.com/cgi-bin/aff.2c?affid=35199
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Epassporte gives your surfers an actual visa account that they can use ANYWHERE visa is accepted.

if only. i got the epassporte account for that reason. first try was purchasing traffic from FastAdultTraffic. their processor is 2checkout.com. they don't accept the virtual visa. tried it with 2 other customers of theirs, same result.

i hesitate to use it for anything now, don't really wanna end up being suspected of using a faulty credit card.

also the CC verification is a bit of a hassle, many cards in Europe are given out by banks and not directly by a CC company. you don't have a number with the CC company to call then.
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