person says card stolen and used illegally - but it's been recurring for 5 months - GoFuckYourself.com

rowan · 03-11-2004, 08:38 PM

I just had an email from someone asking to cancel the account as the card had been stolen 'recently' and it had been used 'illegally' to sign up for my site. I checked back and the original signup was in August 2003, so something certainly doesn't smell right. If the card was used without their consent then surely they would have noticed it by now?

This person only asked to cancel, so I cancelled and refunded the most recent charge... but I hope they are not going to push it further, 5 months worth of chargebacks is going to hurt.

BTW, they are in the same city as me, and I was able to confirm that their address details in the phone book match the details entered into the signup form.

What are your thoughts? Complete bullshit? Family member who discovered their son/brother signed up for the site and they're trying to cover up? Remember they only asked to cancel...

Joetanto · 03-11-2004, 08:40 PM

if the card is still valid and not reported I doubt it was stolen. Just a cheap ass

rowan · 03-11-2004, 08:43 PM

Perhaps it really WAS stolen recently and in the process of going over her statements with a fine tooth comb she has just discovered her son has been spanking off to webcam girls for the past 6 months.

I replied and asked when it was stolen, and offered to help with the police investigation. Hopefully that will be enough of a hint that the needle on my BS meter is starting to wiggle.

Illicit · 03-11-2004, 08:44 PM

should have told him to

{fusion} · 03-11-2004, 08:48 PM

5 month loyal customer, offer him an extra free month he might come back one day and stay another 5 months.

riosluts · 03-11-2004, 08:49 PM

yeah alot of adult websites rely on surfers signing up and forgetting to cancel.

Illicit · 03-11-2004, 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by riosluts
yeah alot of adult websites rely on surfers signing up and forgetting to cancel.

Ill take their cash anyway I can get it !

Shoehorn! · 03-11-2004, 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ajpiii

Ill take their cash anyway I can get it !

Exactly.

skiv · 03-11-2004, 08:56 PM

Yeah, that site is the ugliest shit I have seen

detoxed · 03-11-2004, 08:59 PM

THey suck

Honeyslut · 03-11-2004, 09:09 PM

stolen credit cards are given new numbers

rowan · 03-11-2004, 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by skiv
Yeah, that site is the ugliest shit I have seen

Which site? Mine? It's not mentioned anywhere in this thread...

webair · 03-11-2004, 09:15 PM

person fos

cashman · 03-11-2004, 09:16 PM

You should check his login stats and ip login. Our system has does features.

Rictor · 03-11-2004, 09:18 PM

It's bullshit but what are you going to do?

beemk · 03-11-2004, 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by {fusion}
5 month loyal customer, offer him an extra free month he might come back one day and stay another 5 months.

loyal customers dont try to scam you.

reynold · 03-11-2004, 09:20 PM

they are lying.

digifan · 03-11-2004, 09:22 PM

Must have been a family member imo.

exspamr · 03-11-2004, 09:26 PM

its possible

integrated · 03-11-2004, 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by rowan

Which site? Mine? It's not mentioned anywhere in this thread...

please icq me 241440057

sumphatpimp · 03-11-2004, 10:20 PM

Topic: person says card stolen and used illegally - but it's been recurring for 5 months

I just got to wonder; how much lube and tissues did he go through in 5 months? and did he charge back them too????

tony286 · 03-11-2004, 10:20 PM

You still have no say without a signature I dont care if you have photos of him jerking off to your site in his house. Unfortunately we have almost no voice against this and it sucks. I will say this again I think cb's are a profit center if not a electronic signature would of been created and perfected a long time ago.

Brat · 03-11-2004, 10:23 PM

you wouldnt believe the amount of people who don't go over their monthly statements and who only call months later, freaking out about a recurring charge that's been charged for half a year.

it's so annoying. i hate people who do that. it's called 'monthly statements' for a reason.

Mr. Marks · 03-11-2004, 10:36 PM

Lies.....

pudcat · 03-11-2004, 10:51 PM

Back before I started in this industry, my card got somehow leaked to some horny prick who signed up to some website and registered a domain. Think it was $20 recurring with ccbill. I couldn't be bothered cancelling it until after the 4th rebill or so as I was kinda hoping that it'd just stop and I wouldn't have to get off my lazy ass.

Sexzity · 03-11-2004, 10:58 PM

Look at the header in the mail from him and look in your logs.

Then you know if it is the same person.

Could be he send the cancel mail with the same mail he sign up with

pennywize_v3 · 03-11-2004, 11:42 PM

Hey Rowan

Take a look at client confirm http://www.clientconfirm.com

We can stop stuff like this happening for you in the future :-)

Steve

chowda · 03-11-2004, 11:47 PM

i charged back something last year.. no idea what it was.. but it was a website for shells... so someone probably hacked me.

Doctor Dre · 03-12-2004, 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by rowan
Perhaps it really WAS stolen recently and in the process of going over her statements with a fine tooth comb she has just discovered her son has been spanking off to webcam girls for the past 6 months.

I replied and asked when it was stolen, and offered to help with the police investigation. Hopefully that will be enough of a hint that the needle on my BS meter is starting to wiggle.

Yea most likely . He probably didn't realise his son was using his card...

Arty · 03-12-2004, 12:27 AM

That might help, see if it's ever reported as stolen..

http://www.cardcops.com/

pimplink · 03-12-2004, 01:44 AM

study the case thoroughly.

Axeman · 03-12-2004, 01:46 AM

Just somebody trying to get out of his charges.

No way he goes 5 months not notifying the credit card company of it being lost.

Living For Today · 03-12-2004, 01:50 AM

yep definitely no way they didnt know.

born4porn · 03-12-2004, 01:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by beemk
loyal customers dont try to scam you.

exactly!

rowan · 03-16-2004, 12:25 PM

Just got a reply back - she says the card was stolen nearly a year ago. I'm scratching my head about this one, surely she would (should) have notified the bank immediately, especially if the card has been used for at LEAST the past 5 months on my site (and probably elsewhere too). If she didn't tell the bank it was stolen then she probably won't be able to recover everything. I doubt they would allow a chargeback from a year ago.

03-11-2004, 08:38 PM	#1
rowan Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 17,393	person says card stolen and used illegally - but it's been recurring for 5 months I just had an email from someone asking to cancel the account as the card had been stolen 'recently' and it had been used 'illegally' to sign up for my site. I checked back and the original signup was in August 2003, so something certainly doesn't smell right. If the card was used without their consent then surely they would have noticed it by now? This person only asked to cancel, so I cancelled and refunded the most recent charge... but I hope they are not going to push it further, 5 months worth of chargebacks is going to hurt. BTW, they are in the same city as me, and I was able to confirm that their address details in the phone book match the details entered into the signup form. What are your thoughts? Complete bullshit? Family member who discovered their son/brother signed up for the site and they're trying to cover up? Remember they only asked to cancel...

03-11-2004, 08:44 PM	#4
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03-11-2004, 08:49 PM	#6
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03-11-2004, 08:40 PM	#2
Joetanto So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: ICQ 306440898 Posts: 653	if the card is still valid and not reported I doubt it was stolen. Just a cheap ass

03-11-2004, 08:43 PM	#3
rowan Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 17,393	Perhaps it really WAS stolen recently and in the process of going over her statements with a fine tooth comb she has just discovered her son has been spanking off to webcam girls for the past 6 months. I replied and asked when it was stolen, and offered to help with the police investigation. Hopefully that will be enough of a hint that the needle on my BS meter is starting to wiggle.

03-11-2004, 08:48 PM	#5
{fusion} Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,650	5 month loyal customer, offer him an extra free month he might come back one day and stay another 5 months.

03-11-2004, 08:56 PM	#9
skiv Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 286	Yeah, that site is the ugliest shit I have seen

03-11-2004, 08:59 PM	#10
detoxed vip member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,798	THey suck

03-11-2004, 09:16 PM	#14
cashman Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 898	You should check his login stats and ip login. Our system has does features.

03-11-2004, 09:18 PM	#15
Rictor Old Timer Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 12,208	It's bullshit but what are you going to do?

03-11-2004, 09:20 PM	#17
reynold Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Global Traveler Posts: 51,271	they are lying.

03-11-2004, 09:22 PM	#18
digifan The Profiler Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: ICQ 76281726 and I'm female Posts: 14,618	Must have been a family member imo. __________________ [email protected] Webair Rocks

03-11-2004, 09:26 PM	#19
exspamr Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1,427	its possible

03-11-2004, 10:20 PM	#21
sumphatpimp Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 5,235	Topic: person says card stolen and used illegally - but it's been recurring for 5 months I just got to wonder; how much lube and tissues did he go through in 5 months? and did he charge back them too????

03-11-2004, 10:20 PM	#22
tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	You still have no say without a signature I dont care if you have photos of him jerking off to your site in his house. Unfortunately we have almost no voice against this and it sucks. I will say this again I think cb's are a profit center if not a electronic signature would of been created and perfected a long time ago.

03-11-2004, 10:23 PM	#23
Brat Got MIDs? Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Montreal Posts: 1,545	you wouldnt believe the amount of people who don't go over their monthly statements and who only call months later, freaking out about a recurring charge that's been charged for half a year. it's so annoying. i hate people who do that. it's called 'monthly statements' for a reason.

03-11-2004, 10:36 PM	#24
Mr. Marks Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Wherever I want Posts: 7,517	Lies.....

03-11-2004, 10:51 PM	#25
pudcat Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,169	Back before I started in this industry, my card got somehow leaked to some horny prick who signed up to some website and registered a domain. Think it was $20 recurring with ccbill. I couldn't be bothered cancelling it until after the 4th rebill or so as I was kinda hoping that it'd just stop and I wouldn't have to get off my lazy ass.

03-11-2004, 10:58 PM	#26
Sexzity Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Cyperspaces! Posts: 1,329	Look at the header in the mail from him and look in your logs. Then you know if it is the same person. Could be he send the cancel mail with the same mail he sign up with

03-11-2004, 11:42 PM	#27
pennywize_v3 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 55	Hey Rowan Take a look at client confirm http://www.clientconfirm.com We can stop stuff like this happening for you in the future :-) Steve

03-11-2004, 11:47 PM	#28
chowda Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Gooch city Posts: 9,527	i charged back something last year.. no idea what it was.. but it was a website for shells... so someone probably hacked me. __________________ Someone finds you... 2007 PS: Nationalnet is the best host I've ever had. And i tried alot of them.

03-12-2004, 12:27 AM	#30
Arty Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 880	That might help, see if it's ever reported as stolen.. http://www.cardcops.com/

03-12-2004, 01:44 AM	#31
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03-12-2004, 01:46 AM	#32
Axeman Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Swamp Posts: 5,201	Just somebody trying to get out of his charges. No way he goes 5 months not notifying the credit card company of it being lost. __________________ XXXRewards - Karups - Boyfun - Jawked. Paying on time since 1997. Contact me at brent [at] xxxrewards.com

03-12-2004, 01:50 AM	#33
Living For Today Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 3,970	yep definitely no way they didnt know.

03-16-2004, 12:25 PM	#35
rowan Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 17,393	Just got a reply back - she says the card was stolen nearly a year ago. I'm scratching my head about this one, surely she would (should) have notified the bank immediately, especially if the card has been used for at LEAST the past 5 months on my site (and probably elsewhere too). If she didn't tell the bank it was stolen then she probably won't be able to recover everything. I doubt they would allow a chargeback from a year ago.