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Brian Shuster now enforcing patent on Sub Domains
Here is the letter they are mailing to Web Hosting companies.
http://161.58.167.50/letter.jpg http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-P...&RS=PN/6687746 |
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Hopefully someone kills this fuck.
No really.
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I wonder which of the larger adult hosting companies will be the first to pay the fee?
NatNet? Webair? CaveCreek? ? |
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I'm gonna see if I can get a patent on my on/off switch on my PC
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I already have that one. PAY UP!
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This patent thing is getting waaaayyyy outta hand. Subdomains are just a configuration in your server, like adjusting your nuts...........I'm gonna patent adjusting your nuts and be rich. Don't let me or my spys catch you touching them for the purpose of comfort.
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Wasn't this Brian Shuster a partner in the old XPics.com?
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You got to be kidding!
Acada or whatever it is and now this. ![]() Oz |
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My next patent will most likely be based on overweight. If your webmaster ass is too big you will have to pay. Only UCJ Tim will get by this one. |
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haha i bet the hosting companies have a heart attack
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god thats gay
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Wow, what a stupid patent! I mean if it had been filed in 1980, maybe it would have a chance, but it was filed in 1999. There doesn't seem to be anything remotely new in the patent.
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Thank Larry he started the downward spiral. Remember this when you run to shake his hand or get his autograph or kiss his ass at internext.
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im going to sue al gore for inventing the internet improperly
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Yep this is the same Brian Shuster that OWNS Xpics.
I personally believe acacia is a joke compared to what Brian will try to do to the adult web. Remember Acacia has a broad patent on video technology and they just so happened to target the adult web first. Brian ran XPICS. He knows the adult web REAL WELL. He acquired patents to go after the adult web or sell them, which ever was more profitable. This is just one of many that he has (ie Exit Console and Banners with Sound). |
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it's a feature wich operating systems/DNS servers allow..he might be the first one who has used it but i can hardly imagine he invented it ![]()
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i invented the interweb
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Here's a few others..
http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-P...er%2C+Brian%22 System apparatus and method for hosting and assigning domain names on a wide area network Method, apparatus and system for directing access to content on a computer network System for remotely controlling an animatronic device in a chat environment utilizing control signals sent by a remote device over the internet Method and apparatus for controlling medical monitoring devices over the internet Method and apparatus for gaming Method and apparatus for using distributed multimedia information and some applications that haven't yet been approved.. http://appft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-...FIELD2=&d=PG01 Method and apparatus for remote data collection of product information using a communications device Addressee-defined mail addressing system and method Method and apparatus for providing audio advertisements in a computer network Method and apparatus for transacting divisible property Method and apparatus for managing ownership of virtual property System and method for aggregating information over a wide area network Method and apparatus for controlling an animatronic device using a web enabled cellular phone Method and apparatus for conducting domain name service
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lmao, Shuster will never change. what a jackass.
No question however, Shuster knows this business extremely well and has had this gameplan to milk the adult web for all he can for a very long time. Once the FCC crippled his empire with their fines, he turned his attention to making money from us in other ways. Brian's patents are very much directed at us, and we need to take him seriously.
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bullshit
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I received an email and a typed copy of the letter a few days ago.. and it does appear that IdeaFlood has now surfaced. It seems that the targets might be anyone who is using a subdomain rather than just the company providing the DNS. Which means many people can be targeted for "contributory infringement". I had seen a mainstream article that was talking about a subdomain patent, and now i get the connection that it's the same company.. targetting both adult and mainstream. Technically, the "www." part of a URL is a subdomain, so maybe everyone that has a website is infringing ![]() If you have been hit with a similar letter, feel free to contact me so i can help to connect people together. If you have received a letter, it's best to let an attorney handle the correspondance (doesn't have to be a patent attorney at this stage, just someone that will make them explain how you are infringing), rather than you talking to them directly. Fight the Acacia Wannabee!
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Nice to see you around FTP!
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There's always some lazy fuck looking for easy money
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Always vigilant... I didn't want to post this story yet til I got some more confirmation..since i didn't get a scan of the letter, just the typed letter.. but it does match what you posted... Many people have been waiting to see when IdeaFlood would surface with the pop-up patent, but instead, they chose to try their first swing with the subdomain patent. The slashdot.org crowd will have a field day with this one. For those amateur prior art searchers (like me), need to find instances of people using subdomains prior to August 1998. I haven't dived too far into the patent, but that it does appear to be bogus, since WWW started commercially around 1994, and DNS was before that... so there should be enough prior art to show the use of subdomains (there are probably more specific claims and I am oversimplifying things right now). Fight the High Waters!
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Jesus, I was using subdomains in '97. No proof but damn.
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Besides showing prior art, another way to invalidate a patent is to show the fraud in the filing and documentation of the patent. The inventors have to disclose all prior art and information that went into the idea. For example: if anyone of these people: Shuster; Brian (Stateline, NV); Leong; Johnson (San Jose, CA); Price; Matthew (Santa Clara, CA); Lam; Brian (Sunnyvale, CA); Johnson; Desmond Ford (Monte Sereno, CA) ...were involved with companies already doing the items described in the patent, then it can be proven the idea was not novel. Like with their popup patent, it was common place back then that people were doing what the patent described, it's just that no one patented the idea... prior art might be hard to find since most webmasters dont' document, they just do it. Before people start jumping on the "patent everything" bandwagon... you need to have an idea that is new and novel and not currently being used or documented anywhere. Fight the Surfacing!
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if your going to go after brian, keep an eye on his attorney (i won't mention his name as he may be yours too but his last name starts with a p ). He most likely is more than a little financially motivated if this thing goes anywhere.
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I'm gonna patent air . everytime you inhale you have to pay me 5 cents .
that's some FUCKING BULLSHIT . |
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If Acacia looses than he will loose as well! fucking Bull Shit!
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He will loose... he would have to go after the poeple who coded apache/microsoft/the creators of bind/ECT.
Not the people who SET somthing in a config file. Scumbags.
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Don't see why you couldn't mention his attorney's name. Greg Picconelli and group. The same guys at the show. Anybody seeking advice may want to choose someone that DOESN'T have Brian Shuster as a client
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"WWW" is a sub-domain. There is plenty of documentation about sub-domains before 1998. From what I'm reading about the patent, is that he is talking about wildcard sub-domains. I'm not sure when the wildcard (*.domainname.com) came out for sub-domains. For example, I have wildcard sub-domains for all of my domain names (I suppose I'll get a letter now). For example:
http://fightthepatent.adult-cybergames.com http://anythingforthesubdomain.adult-cybergames.com I didn't fully read the patent. Just glanced over it pretty much. So I could be wrong on what the whole patent is about.
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Looks like they're talking about Hustler Larry. Just in case somebody comes up with the wrong Larry like I did.
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Get in touch with the person who owned Free Site Network free host back in 1998. I met my husband in October 1998 and several MONTHS before I met him I had a bunch of subdomains at FSN. If CuteFTP had a log that included when I last logged into a server I MIGHT have proof of when I used one of them. There were several other free hosts I used back then with subdomains that I still have in my CuteFTP. Anyone know anything about CuteFTP logs? Does it log the time/date of your last login?
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Do you resemble the comment of being a Larry that people "run up to shake his hand or get his autograph or kiss his ass at internext. " ![]() I remember shaking your hand, but didn't see anyone doing the autograph or ass kissing thing. Fight the Identity Mixup!
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Here is a document about wild card sub-domains and subdomains in general.
http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1033.html That was back on November 1987
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hmm, isn't www just the default subdomain?
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I hate subdomains. Mostly used by TGP cheaters.
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