Are Newbies Hurting This Industry? - GoFuckYourself.com

SomeCreep · 03-12-2004, 01:15 AM

What do you think... Do more and more newbies entering the adult webmaster industry dilute profits for everyone, or is the internet growing at a fast enough pace to allow profits for all?

sixxxth_sense · 03-12-2004, 01:17 AM

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Originally posted by SomeCreep
What do you think... Do more and more newbies entering the adult webmaster industry dilute profits for everyone, or is the internet growing at a fast enough pace to allow profits for all?

the only people hurting the industry are the fuckers that been in it for long. They never happy with howmuch they make. They always want more. So then they start scamming here and there (ie. shaving) etc etc. and than one day they all end up getting slammed on GFY! noobies keep this shit alive yo!

maxjohan · 03-12-2004, 01:25 AM

They don't hurt the industry... This industry isn't for
everyone+ porn is growing + The nature have winners, losers
and middle men.

Ash@phpFX · 03-12-2004, 01:31 AM

i dont think you could say they are hurting the industry by making money that someone else could have made. if they are doing that then they are part of the industry too

maxjohan · 03-12-2004, 01:32 AM

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Originally posted by asher
i dont think you could say they are hurting the industry by making money that someone else could have made. if they are doing that then they are part of the industry too

I agree it's not like they steal your money lol.

SomeCreep · 03-12-2004, 01:37 AM

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Originally posted by maxjohan
I agree it's not like they steal your money lol.

What about this example... Lets say you submit TGP galleries and get listed all the time. All of a sudden, more newbies start submitting galleries and you dont get listed as much anymore because of all the other newbies getting listed instead. This doesnt cut into your profits?

bdld · 03-12-2004, 01:41 AM

newbies are good if they always stay in newbie-land..

davidd · 03-12-2004, 01:43 AM

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Originally posted by SomeCreep
What do you think... Do more and more newbies entering the adult webmaster industry dilute profits for everyone, or is the internet growing at a fast enough pace to allow profits for all?

I consider anyone who entered the business after 1999 a newbie. Does that effect your equation?

guschi2k · 03-12-2004, 01:43 AM

no way

the average newbie just gets another one of those unprofitable skimmed tgps up and running that generate close to 0 revenue.
after a few weeks/months they realize, that they will probably not become the next "hun" ... so they become sigwhores on gfy

the few with new/good ideas who treat this as a serious business survive and that's just fine IMHO

Paul Markham · 03-12-2004, 01:43 AM

The only way Nebies can hurt is by putting up 1,000s of low quality free pages/sites or by stealing content. Therefore giving the Adult Internet a bad name.

And the reason they get away with it is the experienced ones do not take enough care to monitor them.

If newbies do the job wrong they soon disappear, if they do it right they go onto better things.

However what I suspect is those who started in this business when it was easy, all you had to do was put up a site of cheap content and throw traffic at it to make money will blame newbies and free porn for their demise.

You are the one responsible for the money you make not anyone else and if a newbie is hurting your business it's your fault.

sixxxth_sense · 03-12-2004, 01:44 AM

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Originally posted by SomeCreep

What about this example... Lets say you submit TGP galleries and get listed all the time. All of a sudden, more newbies start submitting galleries and you dont get listed as much anymore because of all the other newbies getting listed instead. This doesnt cut into your profits?

This is when u realize that submitting your fucking galls is no longer a way to get rich! Advence, move up the chain. what u think this shit gonna keep u loaded all the time? pleaseeeee

69pornlinks · 03-12-2004, 01:44 AM

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Originally posted by davidd

I consider anyone who entered the business after 1999 a newbie. Does that effect your equation?

damn, now it's about to get interesting...haha

SomeCreep · 03-12-2004, 01:48 AM

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Originally posted by davidd

I consider anyone who entered the business after 1999 a newbie. Does that effect your equation?

IMO, newbies are people just getting into the industry that dont have any original ideas. Newbies try and copy what everyone else is doing and do not contribute anything significant to this industry.

SomeCreep · 03-12-2004, 01:55 AM

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Originally posted by charly
You are the one responsible for the money you make not anyone else and if a newbie is hurting your business it's your fault.

Very true.

People dont realize that if someone is able to enter this industry and hurt your business with their product, then perhaps your product wasnt that good to begin with.

SMG · 03-12-2004, 01:55 AM

newbies have good and bad effects ... theyre on like a food chain, the upper people can hook the newbies with ways of increasing their traffic, so if you play it right newbies can be useful ... its the damn cheaters that hurt if anything ... such as gallery submitters that cheat, traffic trade cheaters, etc ... one thing I can say is newbies help promote things in the industry since they're always looking for new quick money schemes ... all u have to do is throw one out to one and they'll bite ... makes me happy since I'm a coder

Veterans Day · 03-12-2004, 02:08 AM

this question is ridiculous at best, you can apply it to any single industry were money is made. I mean cmon, you want to have it all to yourself. When you started you knew wtf was going on? You didn't fuck up? You were an instant success, if you are even today that is? Just a open ended retarded question. And tell me when porn had a "good" name and when did it get "bad"? Ridiculous fuckin question

maxjohan · 03-12-2004, 02:18 AM

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Originally posted by Veterans Day
this question is ridiculous at best, you can apply it to any single industry were money is made. I mean cmon, you want to have it all to yourself. When you started you knew wtf was going on? You didn't fuck up? You were an instant success, if you are even today that is? Just a open ended retarded question. And tell me when porn had a "good" name and when did it get "bad"? Ridiculous fuckin question

I must agree.

but that's just my

Rorschach · 03-12-2004, 02:23 AM

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Originally posted by davidd

I consider anyone who entered the business after 1999 a newbie. Does that effect your equation?

Assuming that you are using "newbie" disparagingly, I think that's daft. That's 5 years ago, you can learn a hell of a lot in 5 years, especially if you are already internet/ technology/ marketing savvy.

SomeCreep · 03-12-2004, 02:26 AM

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Originally posted by Veterans Day
this question is ridiculous at best, you can apply it to any single industry were money is made. I mean cmon, you want to have it all to yourself. When you started you knew wtf was going on? You didn't fuck up? You were an instant success, if you are even today that is? Just a open ended retarded question. And tell me when porn had a "good" name and when did it get "bad"? Ridiculous fuckin question

Sad if your view is truly this limited. To some in this industry, newbies are a good thing, to others they are harmful. I am interested in hearing peoples opinions on how they feel about them.

pimplink · 03-12-2004, 02:28 AM

I don't think so.

Veterans Day · 03-12-2004, 02:32 AM

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Originally posted by SomeCreep

Sad if your view is truly this limited. To some in this industry, newbies are a good thing, to others they are harmful. I am interested in hearing peoples opinions on how they feel about them.

Limited in what way? I feel it's an open ended question that could be answered six ways to sunday. Who's it good for? Traffic brokers? People who offer services? Who's it bad for? Submitters? Your mad cause the n00b took your top spot on a tgp? Or you thought they were only accepting the first 500 webmasters in 97'?

xxxinnovations · 03-12-2004, 02:34 AM

I think there's no controlling it

SomeCreep · 03-12-2004, 02:38 AM

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Originally posted by Veterans Day
Limited in what way? I feel it's an open ended question that could be answered six ways to sunday. Who's it good for? Traffic brokers? People who offer services? Who's it bad for? Submitters? Your mad cause the n00b took your top spot on a tgp? Or you thought they were only accepting the first 500 webmasters in 97'?

Limited in that you did not realize how newbies can be good for some and harmful to others, hence making this a valid question.

Also, my TGP example was not a personal example. I sited that example to try and demonstrate that newbies could pose a threat to some.

Veterans Day · 03-12-2004, 02:41 AM

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Originally posted by SomeCreep

Limited in that you did not realize how newbies can be good for some and harmful to others, hence making this a valid question.

Also, my TGP example was not a personal example. I sited that example to try and demonstrate that newbies could pose a threat to some.

Of course I realize in some ways people like them, they will bite hook line and sinker easily, as far as harmful, the ones who have caused the most harm to this industry are the big programs and certainly not n00bs. I dont think we need to cite what some big programs have done and what impact it has had.

polish_aristocrat · 03-12-2004, 02:47 AM

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Originally posted by SomeCreep

What about this example... Lets say you submit TGP galleries and get listed all the time. All of a sudden, more newbies start submitting galleries and you dont get listed as much anymore because of all the other newbies getting listed instead. This doesnt cut into your profits?

True, but when it comes to galleries, I am the newbie.

03-12-2004, 02:49 AM

Nobody cuts into your profits. Generally those who make the highest quality products get what they deserve. A person of any experience level will make connections for the quality of his work, before a person with no talent will regardless of how long he/she has been around.

Don't worry about anybody else, bro. Keep your mind on your riches!

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 03-12-2004, 02:51 AM

Hot Linking Newbies
Content Thievin Newbies
Spamming Newbies
Page Jacking Newbies
Password trading Newbies...

those are the ones that freak me out and there are alot more of them than ones that set out on an honest venture.

johnbosh · 03-12-2004, 02:52 AM

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Originally posted by bdld
newbies are good if they always stay in newbie-land..

true:D

SomeCreep · 03-12-2004, 02:55 AM

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Originally posted by shermsshack
Generally those who make the highest quality products get what they deserve. A person of any experience level will make connections for the quality of his work, before a person with no talent will regardless of how long he/she has been around.

Yes, I agree

hoe_vender · 03-12-2004, 02:56 AM

you are the stupid that the triped over a cordless phone

OzKaNoz · 03-12-2004, 03:33 AM

heres a few US surfer fact/figures. It not exactlly what I was looking for be does give some info on the amount of surfers.
When I find the other info I'll post it too.

United States: Average Web Usage
Month of February 2004
Home Panel
Sessions/Visits Per Person 31
Domains Visited Per Person 55
PC Time Per Person 27:52:29
Duration of a Web Page Viewed 00:00:53
Active Digital Media Universe 141,389,993
Current Digital Media Universe Estimate 204,306,915

Oz

skiv · 03-12-2004, 04:02 AM

Humm.. very interestin'

Joetanto · 03-12-2004, 04:03 AM

newbies make the world go round

SoftGalleries · 03-12-2004, 04:08 AM

we are always welcomed to newbies!

skiv · 03-12-2004, 04:16 AM

Humm.. very interestin'

03-12-2004, 01:15 AM	#1
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guschi2k Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: ...blablablabla... Posts: 489	no way the average newbie just gets another one of those unprofitable skimmed tgps up and running that generate close to 0 revenue. after a few weeks/months they realize, that they will probably not become the next "hun" ... so they become sigwhores on gfy the few with new/good ideas who treat this as a serious business survive and that's just fine IMHO __________________ $$$ PimpRoll converts like a mofu, don't miss out on this shit $$$

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Paul Markham Too old to care Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws. Posts: 52,943	The only way Nebies can hurt is by putting up 1,000s of low quality free pages/sites or by stealing content. Therefore giving the Adult Internet a bad name. And the reason they get away with it is the experienced ones do not take enough care to monitor them. If newbies do the job wrong they soon disappear, if they do it right they go onto better things. However what I suspect is those who started in this business when it was easy, all you had to do was put up a site of cheap content and throw traffic at it to make money will blame newbies and free porn for their demise. You are the one responsible for the money you make not anyone else and if a newbie is hurting your business it's your fault. __________________ Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500. PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70

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SMG Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,798	newbies have good and bad effects ... theyre on like a food chain, the upper people can hook the newbies with ways of increasing their traffic, so if you play it right newbies can be useful ... its the damn cheaters that hurt if anything ... such as gallery submitters that cheat, traffic trade cheaters, etc ... one thing I can say is newbies help promote things in the industry since they're always looking for new quick money schemes ... all u have to do is throw one out to one and they'll bite ... makes me happy since I'm a coder __________________ TGP Webmasters: sign up for the top 100 tgp list! Submit galleries If you add me to icq (title) make sure to mention GFY or I'll think you're a bot and deny you.

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Ash@phpFX Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 4,292	i dont think you could say they are hurting the industry by making money that someone else could have made. if they are doing that then they are part of the industry too

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bdld $100,000 Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 11,452	newbies are good if they always stay in newbie-land..

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Veterans Day Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: The Windy City Posts: 8,403	this question is ridiculous at best, you can apply it to any single industry were money is made. I mean cmon, you want to have it all to yourself. When you started you knew wtf was going on? You didn't fuck up? You were an instant success, if you are even today that is? Just a open ended retarded question. And tell me when porn had a "good" name and when did it get "bad"? Ridiculous fuckin question __________________ Build a Massive Traffic Network, Hands FREE, Totally Automated

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03-12-2004, 02:49 AM	#26
shermo Guest Posts: n/a	Nobody cuts into your profits. Generally those who make the highest quality products get what they deserve. A person of any experience level will make connections for the quality of his work, before a person with no talent will regardless of how long he/she has been around. Don't worry about anybody else, bro. Keep your mind on your riches!

03-12-2004, 02:51 AM	#27
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OzKaNoz Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Deep With In Your Mind Posts: 1,834	heres a few US surfer fact/figures. It not exactlly what I was looking for be does give some info on the amount of surfers. When I find the other info I'll post it too. United States: Average Web Usage Month of February 2004 Home Panel Sessions/Visits Per Person 31 Domains Visited Per Person 55 PC Time Per Person 27:52:29 Duration of a Web Page Viewed 00:00:53 Active Digital Media Universe 141,389,993 Current Digital Media Universe Estimate 204,306,915 Oz __________________ Techie Media Web Hosting

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skiv Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 286	Humm.. very interestin'

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Joetanto So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: ICQ 306440898 Posts: 653	newbies make the world go round

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SoftGalleries Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: i am @ home.. Where are you? Posts: 247	we are always welcomed to newbies! __________________ http://www.SoftGalleries.com

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