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Old 03-11-2004, 11:03 PM   #51
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Exactly the scintillating argument I expected. Go watch "The Passion" again, it'll make you feel better.

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Btw, I demand my rights! I want to be able to marry in a Mosque or Synagogue to my Christian wife if I feel like it. I feel so suppressed... Give me my rights haters. You Christianaphobes.
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I remember doing reports on Robert E Lee.

I remember reading about him after the war, walking up and kneeling at the altar of his church and knelt down next to the blacks of the church as if the first to lead his part of the country. If he was man enough to accept blacks, I am man enough to accept gays.
He went against a popular trend, you are jumping on one. Interest groups, the media, it is so acceptable to be a raaving 'liberal'. Don't even try and compare yourself to him.
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Every time you use the word "fag," every time you call someone that, every time you make gay jokes, that's another nail in somebody's coffin, and their blood just might be on YOUR hands. Or perhaps it's ok to make jokes about every minority except straight white males and then like the guy in kids, say "wha' happened?" when the world is full of people blowing each other up.

Nothing happens in a vacuum. Think about that.

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actually, words are meaningless in and of themselves... its the intent behind the word that matters... i call people a fag sometimes but i'm not implying they like to engage in homosexual relations. its the intent, as george carlin would say

and also, a person can joke about anything.. even rape... as long as theres an exaggeration.

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so stop being such a sensitive faggot and relax a little bit.
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I feel bad for the gays that want to get married. Its not like they chose to be gay. They should have the same legal rights. Hell, gays/lesbians make up ~12% of the US population. Same percentage as blacks. Time for a new generation of affirmative action I guess.
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He went against a popular trend, you are jumping on one. Interest groups, the media, it is so acceptable to be a raaving 'liberal'. Don't even try and compare yourself to him.
As if you know anything about "him" being from the north and shit.

I grew up in Lee Circle. its in New Orleans, i know you never been there ;)

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Know why it's trendy and acceptable to be a liberal? cuz everyone is realizing that the conservatives are full of shit.
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Exactly the scintillating argument I expected. Go watch "The Passion" again, it'll make you feel better.

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Whats to argue about? You're obviously gay, and I can't cure you, so thats about the end of any interaction we should have.
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Btw, I demand my rights! I want to be able to marry in a Mosque or Synagogue to my Christian wife if I feel like it. I feel so suppressed... Give me my rights haters. You Christianaphobes.
DON'T DENY US OUR HUMAN RIGHTS! WE WANT TO MARRY SATANIC SOULMATES IN MOSQUES!

The misery........ The oppression.....
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As if you know anything about "him" being from the north and shit.

I grew up in Lee Circle.

Bowing to the man, like you know a damn thing

I am from Australia. And although I don't particularly care for the man, I know of and about him. Keep talking puppet.
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I'm usually quiet about this, but enough of this shit just builds up and not enough people speak out.

If you haters are so intensely embroiled in protecting "traditional marriage," hey, go for it. But start where it matters, ah, let's see 50% divorce rate?? Let's just do that. Make divorce illegal - follow the logic, the Book, make it punishable by death. Same for adultery. An eye for an eye.

I'm sick of a bunch of half-wits quoting half-scripture in a lame attempt to justify their own ignorant beliefs - I'm the least religious person you'll ever meet but something as basic as the parable of the Good Samaritan (I can re-iterate it if you don't know it) is alien to "Religion" these days, and I know more scripture than most of these people.

Yanno - go figure. Let me try and assume the POV of some of these people. "I see all these fuckin' straights on TV and it just makes me sick. I wanna puke when I see a guy going down on a girl. That's just unnatural. Oh my god, the girl is crying at the wedding, that's just so fucking pathetic. Where's the damn pizza and beer??"

If for *once* in your life you've ever had people smash all the windows out of your car just because of who you were, or been pulled over by cops because you were in the "gay" district, or looked gay, then maybe you can speak. Just maybe. And if you condone that attitude, that treatment, then think about Matthew Shepard and you should really seriously consider if you belong on the face of the planet.

Every time you use the word "fag," every time you call someone that, every time you make gay jokes, that's another nail in somebody's coffin, and their blood just might be on YOUR hands. Or perhaps it's ok to make jokes about every minority except straight white males and then like the guy in kids, say "wha' happened?" when the world is full of people blowing each other up.

Nothing happens in a vacuum. Think about that.

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so good, it should be read twice
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Btw, I demand my rights! I want to be able to marry in a Mosque or Synagogue to my Christian wife if I feel like it. I feel so suppressed... Give me my rights haters. You Christianaphobes.
I think the salient point is the federal benefits gay miss out on because they can't marry, access to their partner's super etc etc. It's ridiculous they don't already have these rights.
Sure getting married in a Christian church with a priest conducting the ceremony? No of course not.
Being about lawfully being "man and man" and the legal benefits that brings.. there really isn't any argument against that.. they're already living together.. they should have access to their partner's estate if they're willing to enshrine it in law by marriage.. I don't really get why people would oppose it other than the satisfaction of denying someone they don't agree with.. It's straight people who have fucked up the tradittion of marriage, unless you count getting married 3 times as supporting it by volume.
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I am from Australia. And although I don't particularly care for the man, I know of and about him. Keep talking puppet.
the only good thing about Australia, is that JOE SIXPACK AND BHUTOCRACY LIVE THERE.

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I think the salient point is the federal benefits gay miss out on because they can't marry, access to their partner's super etc etc. It's ridiculous they don't already have these rights.
Sure getting married in a Christian church with a priest conducting the ceremony? No.. Being about to be lawfully "man and man" and the legal benefits that brings.. there really isn't any argument against that.. they're already living together.. they should have access to their partner's estate if they're willing to enshrine it in law by marriage.. I don't really get why people would oppose it other than the satisfaction of denying someone they don't agree with.. It's straight people who have fucked up the tradittion of marriage, unless you count getting married 3 times as supporting it by volume.
Sure, I accept all that and would not oppose some kind of civil union for queers to get the same legal rights as de facto's or married couples. But atleast you can also see the irony in claiming that disallowing someone to marry in a Christian church is somehow denying them their RIGHTS.
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You don't have to get married in a Christian church. You are a fool.
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the only good thing about Australia, is that JOE SIXPACK AND BHUTOCRACY LIVE THERE.

hahaha

anyway, have fun guy, it sucks you cant post under your real nick ;)
Yep, this is a fake nick. I wasted 1600 posts on it. Just because some people are not afraid to voice their point of views doesn't mean they are some how hiding. I will say the same thing to your face if I could, it really does not bother me.
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You don't have to get married in a Christian church. You are a fool.
It is a Christian/Western cultural development. Marriage in its current form is always connected to Christianity and culture. It is not a right at all.
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Yep, this is a fake nick. I wasted 1600 posts on it. Just because some people are not afraid to voice their point of views doesn't mean they are some how hiding. I will say the same thing to your face if I could, it really does not bother me.
As I said, I love you.

I really do.

Dexterity and Stamina are part of your qualities.

youd make a good suicide bomber for the zionists.
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You don't have to get married in a Christian church. You are a fool.
You don't have to of course, but they want that too. I know more about it than you, since I live in a country that went through what you are going through now a long time ago. They want the whole package and nothing less. And if something in a religion hinders them, they get the government to change the religionf for them.

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I don't think anyone here is suggesting this.

You can be legally married without getting married in a Christian church.
Read above post. I expressed myself poorly in the post you quoted.
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does anyone really think the divorce rate would be any different with gay couples? Im curious?
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As I said, I love you.

I really do.

Dexterity and Stamina are part of your qualities.

youd make a good suicide bomber for the zionists.
And you would make a good doormat.
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i hate it when the gays bring their sex lives to our tv's while Im trying to eat... makes me wanna puke...
Feel the same way about your posts.
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does anyone really think the divorce rate would be any different with gay couples? Im curious?
I think it would be slightly higher than that of straight couples, but that's irrelevant.
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as i said.

its only human to cheer the limiting of rights of one's kind.

like it or not, gay people are humans and its BIBLICAL jargon that is dictating this.

Its really sad that people actually appluad the limiting of someone elses rights here.

very lame.
You tell them preacher Fletch!
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It is a Christian/Western cultural development. Marriage in its current form is always connected to Christianity and culture. It is not a right at all.
Hogwash.

I can get married by a civil celebrant with no mention of God in the ceremony and it is still legal marriage, recognised by law.

Gays should be entitled to the same thing. Anything less is blatant and unacceptable discrimination.
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I think it would be slightly higher than that of straight couples, but that's irrelevant.
I was just curious cause people like to bring up how straights have decimated the sacred vow.
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Hogwash.

I can get married by a civil celebrant with no mention of God in the ceremony and it is still legal marriage, recognised by law.

Gays should be entitled to the same thing. Anything less is blatant and unacceptable discrimination.
Hogwash.

Than why can I not get married in a Mosque. Biiiigot. Put it any way you like, Marriage is not a right.
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Hogwash.

Than why can I not get married in a Mosque. Biiiigot.
thats like a satanist demanding he be married in a church?

the question is why you simpleton.

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I got a feeling the devils advocate is gonna play us hard on this one.

i dont believe it.

I think this guy is a charachter.

no matter what

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It is a Christian/Western cultural development. Marriage in its current form is always connected to Christianity and culture. It is not a right at all.
Then marriage should not be mixed with federal rights.

Personally, I won't be getting married in a Church, I'm not christian, I'll be using a civil celebrant.. I don't see the difference between me using a civil celebrant and some guy that wants to marry his partner. It isn't going to affect anyone else bar the two in question... Gay culture is already on tv and mainstreamed somewhat.. what possible harm can two getting hitched do.. it's like they can't win.. on one hand they're dirty perverts who fuck ten guys a night at the local public toilets and on the other they can't commit to their partner the way everyone else can..
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thats like a satanist demanding he be married in a church?

the question is why you simpleton.

Or like a gay claiming it is their RIGHT to be married in a manner that suits Christian/Western traditions.
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Separation of church and state. Novel concept, look it up.

I don't accept your Anschluss and many also will not. There is always a point beyond which people will take no more.

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Or like a gay claiming it is their RIGHT to be married in a manner that suits Christian/Western traditions.
as the above have painstakingly pointed out for you.

read above

again, where in AU you be white boy?
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BTW, I'm off. Wasted enough time on this thread. It would be must more productive for me to spread fliers. Perhaps I if and when the day comes in Australia.

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Hogwash.

Than why can I not get married in a Mosque. Biiiigot. Put it any way you like, Marriage is not a right.
What's your point?

A mosque is private property. So is a church.

The act of getting married is completely separate to churches, mosques and synagogues.
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Marriage is not a right.
Then federal rights have absolutely NO PLACE in the institution.

I think this would be easily fixed with laws like they already have for defactos and the like.. my girlfriend can already get half my shit even though we aren't married, similarly access to super and the like should be stripped from marriage and put into legal contractual form.
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BTW, I'm off. Wasted enough time on this thread. It would be must more productive for me to spread fliers. Perhaps I if and when the day comes in Australia.

I knew it.

see ya then homie.

cheers on your way out.

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as the above have painstakingly pointed out for you.

read above

again, where in AU you be white boy?
Sydney. Come visit queer?
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I knew it.

see ya then homie.

cheers on your way out.

You have not mad one decent arguement all night. Smilies, and pointless attacks do not count doormat. You'e lucky I don't wipe my feet on my way out. See you.
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If we are stripping marriage of it's religious and christian meaning by civil weddings then theres no point objecting to any two humans.. it certainly doesn't hurt anyone else.
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Ok, I'm for the gay marriage and all, but:



Leis? That's just gay.
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Old 03-11-2004, 11:34 PM   #95
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You have not mad one decent arguement all night.
And you did?

hahahaha yeah funny.

finger pointng and uneducated about southern history.

go read a book you drop out.
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Old 03-11-2004, 11:39 PM   #96
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Laughing at a man wanting to marry a camel would makes us what? Beastyphobes? I don't fear Gay's in the least, though I don't like their insistance on being in front of my face every five seconds.
Ahh...hello? This guy isn't putting himself in the public eye...the media is.

I always love how people say gays bring their sex lives into their living rooms. Gays love just like hetero's love. How many straight marriages do you see on TV? So this guy wanted to get married, and couldn't...so the media jumped all over it and put it on the news. Why does that bother you? If it bothers you so much, then don't watch the news. The news puts this stuff out because people watch.

I am amazed everytime I read gay bashing here...you would think the adult industry would be one of the most open minded groups in America. But I get proven wrong here all the time.
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Old 03-11-2004, 11:39 PM   #97
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Ok, I'm for the gay marriage and all, but:



Leis? That's just gay.
Sure, this was meant as a joke. But put it in perspective. You finally get the chance to marry the girl of your dreams, and some theocrat says you can't. For whatever reason. We can adopt the favorite anti-Semitic tones of GFY, or whatever. Bear in mind this is the person you've spent days, weeks, months, imagining spending the rest of your life with her as husband and wife. You've imagined raising kids, your first house together, maybe even putting money towards a beach house where the two of you can retire to someday. You've planned out a romantic honeymoon in Europe, or wherever. You've had countless dinners with her parents, and you with hers, and both sets believe you two are right for one another and have visions of bouncing grandkids on their knees in the next year or so.

And now this. Nothing you've done, or said, or thought, or felt, or her thoughts, emotions, feelings, actions, matter. It's not your choice. It's Theirs.

How would you feel?

What would you do?

-doug
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Old 03-11-2004, 11:40 PM   #98
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I got a feeling the devils advocate is gonna play us hard on this one.

i dont believe it.

I think this guy is a charachter.

no matter what

no, I am pretty sure he is real. The conversation a number of months back on where he got his nickname sticks in my head.
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Old 03-11-2004, 11:43 PM   #99
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im not a hater

im testing the theory lame threads hit multiple pages, good threads die n' never reach second

seriously now, as i said on the other thread i believe gay people should be allowed some type of marriage. This doesnt make the pic less funny though.
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Sure, this was meant as a joke. But put it in perspective. You finally get the chance to marry the girl of your dreams, and some theocrat says you can't. For whatever reason. We can adopt the favorite anti-Semitic tones of GFY, or whatever. Bear in mind this is the person you've spent days, weeks, months, imagining spending the rest of your life with her as husband and wife. You've imagined raising kids, your first house together, maybe even putting money towards a beach house where the two of you can retire to someday. You've planned out a romantic honeymoon in Europe, or wherever. You've had countless dinners with her parents, and you with hers, and both sets believe you two are right for one another and have visions of bouncing grandkids on their knees in the next year or so.

And now this. Nothing you've done, or said, or thought, or felt, or her thoughts, emotions, feelings, actions, matter. It's not your choice. It's Theirs.

How would you feel?

What would you do?

-doug
I agree dude. Like I said, I'm all for it. Just havin' a bit of fun, that's all.
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