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Brujah · 03-11-2004, 02:44 AM

Those of you that do not believe in a god, do you believe in an afterlife or otherside ?

wdsguy · 03-11-2004, 02:45 AM

I am agnostic and no I don't believe in an afterlife.

Well if there is one, I would prob end up in hell for all the shit i did

so I definitly hope there isn't one.

Amputate Your Head · 03-11-2004, 02:47 AM

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Those of you that do not believe in a god, do you believe in an afterlife or otherside ?

No. When you die, you're fucking dead. End of story. Get over it.

Mr Pheer · 03-11-2004, 02:50 AM

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Originally posted by Amputate Your Head

No. When you die, you're fucking dead. End of story. Get over it.

Yeah. wormfood, nothing more

Tala · 03-11-2004, 02:51 AM

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Originally posted by Amputate Your Head

No. When you die, you're fucking dead. End of story. Get over it.

Ding ding ding! We have a winner!

Mr. Marks · 03-11-2004, 02:52 AM

I believe in God adn I do believe in
the afterlife.

Brujah · 03-11-2004, 02:53 AM

I know the answer. I will share it with GFY tonight. You read it here first!

If you don't believe, don't worry about it. When you die, thats it. There's nothing else for you. No hell or torture, just nothing.

If you do believe in one, it will. Your belief creates it for you. Simple as that. The power of the mind.

Plan9 · 03-11-2004, 02:54 AM

I have my own set of beliefs, but basically an agnostic. I consider myself a good person, just not a religious one. Borrowing a quote from Thomas Paine:

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I do not believe in the creed professed by the Jewish Church, by the Roman Church, by the Greek Church, by the Turkish Church, by the Protestant Church, nor by any Church that I know of. My own mind is my own Church.

That being said - I feel that if there is an afterlife, and a god does exist...if he was spiteful enough to send me to hell for not worshipping him...that isn't a god I would have wished to worship in the first place. Err...not sure if that makes sense when I write it out, but its perfectly clear in my head.

its probably too late for me to be thinking about these sort of things.

rip raster · 03-11-2004, 02:56 AM

I believe that my balls itch, and that I like the taste of beer

Amputate Your Head · 03-11-2004, 02:57 AM

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I believe that my balls itch, and that I like the taste of beer

good solid beliefs.... I share those beliefs as well.

Brujah · 03-11-2004, 02:57 AM

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Originally posted by Plan9
I have my own set of beliefs, but basically an agnostic. I consider myself a good person, just not a religious one. Borrowing a quote from Thomas Paine:

That being said - I feel that if there is an afterlife, and a god does exist...if he was spiteful enough to send me to hell for not worshipping him...that isn't a god I would have wished to worship in the first place. Err...not sure if that makes sense when I write it out, but its perfectly clear in my head. its probably too late for me to be thinking about these sort of things.

Perfect sense to me.

beemk · 03-11-2004, 02:58 AM

i dont really know, i dont think anyone knows what happens to you after you die. i really wouldnt be surprised if amp is right and you're just done with. we really cant give advice on whats going to happen after you die though, thats like oracle porn giving webmaster advice.

marcu5 · 03-11-2004, 02:58 AM

i think death is similar to sleep or just passing out.. Eternal blackness, i dont exist anymore, im dead.. But I wont give a shit

Brujah · 03-11-2004, 03:01 AM

What if i'm right, and it's all a simple matter of whether you believed there was one or not ? Would you want to believe, or choose not to believe ?

Rorschach · 03-11-2004, 03:01 AM

That's it, nada. Your body's electrical energy dissapates into the environment and your corpse decays into dust.

Plan9 · 03-11-2004, 03:03 AM

here's a trippy video to check out...sort of relates to the subject:

<a href="http://www.pureeighteen.com/heaven.exe">Right Click and Save Target As</a>

Edit: hah I just realized how much this file probably looks like a virus, being a 60kb .exe file...but its just a 3d video in a funky, super compressed format.

marcu5 · 03-11-2004, 03:04 AM

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Originally posted by Brujah
What if i'm right, and it's all a simple matter of whether you believed there was one or not ? Would you want to believe, or choose not to believe ?

it all falls under belief tho, I dont believe in an after life.. I think the whole conception was made soley to console the fear of death -- i dont want to be afraid of death because i know its going to happen, i'd just rather see death as my reward for life.

Plan9 · 03-11-2004, 03:08 AM

Damn I wish I still smoked weed, I foresee this turning into a deep thinking, damn-Im-fucking-baked-at-4am stoner thread.

Amputate Your Head · 03-11-2004, 03:11 AM

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Originally posted by Brujah
What if i'm right, and it's all a simple matter of whether you believed there was one or not ? Would you want to believe, or choose not to believe ?

this "God" nonsense is the most ludicrous shit ever devised. What about the rest of the mammals on this earth? Do they go to "heaven" as well? Does your cat go to Hell for killing a bird last week?

"God" and religion was created back in the fucking stone age out of pure necessity. The needs were two fold:

1. Because humans have something other mammals don't. Namely, the ability to reason and think things through. Hence, it was inevitable that the day would come that man would realize, "I am alive. I live. Therefore, one day.... hmmm..... I will NOT be living." And the utter shock of that realization is a little much to handle for Mr. Cromagnon. Thus, the "afterlife" was born. "Hey, it's all good..... you're not really gonna be dead, cuz you're gonna go to this special place!"

2. Control. A simple but VERY effective method of controlling the moral actions of the masses. "If you do this, you're going to Hell!" "But if you do this, you will be welcomed into the Kingdom of whatever....."

and it's been that way ever since.

finally though, and thankfully.... people are beginning to realize this. IT'S A LIE.

Face it. You are going to die someday. And when you do, your story is over. There's no "special place", no "afterlife", no pearly fucking gates, and no Hell. Just dirt. Forever.

The sooner people come to terms with this, the sooner they can move on with their lives and stop living in fear of "God".

I never understood that expression anyway.... "we're good God fearing people"..... I thought "God" was supposed to be all-loving and forgiving? Why should anyone fear that?

anyway..... there ya go.

quiet · 03-11-2004, 03:13 AM

god is dead. looking into that void is difficult, but well worth it.

Brujah · 03-11-2004, 03:13 AM

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Damn I wish I still smoked weed, I foresee this turning into a deep thinking, damn-Im-fucking-baked-at-4am stoner thread.

Used to get into these all the time. Wild conversations indeed. The whole fun of it was coming up with some of the most radical explanations or what-if's.

marcu5 · 03-11-2004, 03:14 AM

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Originally posted by Amputate Your Head

"I am alive. I live. Therefore, one day.... hmmm..... I will NOT be living." And the utter shock of that realization is a little much to handle for Mr. Cromagnon.

clickhappy · 03-11-2004, 03:14 AM

if theres no afterlife then how can so many people who had near death experiences have the same experience? tunnel, light at the end, all of that.

you really think it's just a lack of oxygen to the brain?

Mutt · 03-11-2004, 03:17 AM

people are so lame, can't deal with the fact we're just biological organisms no different than a rat or a plant and we live and die and that's that so they have to create fairytales about eternal life to get them through this hellish existence.

provide ONE shred of evidence that an afterlife of any kind or reincarnation exists.

there is no more evidence for that than there is for the existence of Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny.

pimplink · 03-11-2004, 03:18 AM

There's got to be one! I hope....

Amputate Your Head · 03-11-2004, 03:18 AM

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Originally posted by clickhappy
if theres no afterlife then how can so many people who had near death experiences have the same experience? tunnel, light at the end, all of that.

you really think it's just a lack of oxygen to the brain?

crack smoking gutter whores on the Jerry Springer Show is NOT proof of God's existence.

rip raster · 03-11-2004, 03:19 AM

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Originally posted by pimplink
There's got to be one! I hope....

Hope is for weak minded and the poor

Brujah · 03-11-2004, 03:20 AM

what's the harm in keeping an open mind, wondering and leaning toward believing in something else ?

Plan9 · 03-11-2004, 03:20 AM

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Originally posted by quiet
god is dead. looking into that void is difficult, but well worth it.

And if you gaze for too long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you...
OooOOo.
Deep.

quiet · 03-11-2004, 03:22 AM

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Originally posted by Plan9

And if you gaze for too long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you...
OooOOo.
Deep.

nice Nietzsche quote.

Amputate Your Head · 03-11-2004, 03:24 AM

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Originally posted by Brujah
what's the harm in keeping an open mind, wondering and leaning toward believing in something else ?

there's a LOT of harm in it. It prevents you from living life to it's fullest because you live in a bubble of lies, constantly fearing action, inaction, do you pray enough, should you be praying, what if God is upset with me for this or that......

and you end up dying, having lived your whole life a slave to the biggest lie in history.

Plan9 · 03-11-2004, 03:25 AM

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Originally posted by clickhappy
if theres no afterlife then how can so many people who had near death experiences have the same experience? tunnel, light at the end, all of that.

you really think it's just a lack of oxygen to the brain?

<a href="http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=hypoxia">Hypoxia</a>

Can cause hallucination and similar effects. I really dont believe in the near death experience - if there was a god, then in all his omniscience I think he'd know when someone wasn't really going to die

quiet · 03-11-2004, 03:27 AM

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Originally posted by Amputate Your Head

there's a LOT of harm in it. It prevents you from living life to it's fullest because you live in a bubble of lies, constantly fearing action, inaction, do you pray enough, should you be praying, what if God is upset with me for this or that......

and you end up dying, having lived your whole life a slave to the biggest lie in history.

thumbs fucking up.

the meek shall inherit the earth? - fuck that. slave morality = the shackles preventing you from becoming all that you might be.

Plan9 · 03-11-2004, 03:33 AM

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Originally posted by Amputate Your Head

there's a LOT of harm in it. It prevents you from living life to it's fullest because you live in a bubble of lies, constantly fearing action, inaction, do you pray enough, should you be praying, what if God is upset with me for this or that......

and you end up dying, having lived your whole life a slave to the biggest lie in history.

eh, I think it goes both ways. You're right that the god fearing religious person is going to miss out on some of the finer things in life - but then again, those people might say the same thing of an atheist, or someone with no religious beliefs at all. Its all a matter of perspective, isn't it?

NiTe-HaWk · 03-11-2004, 03:33 AM

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Originally posted by Amputate Your Head

there's a LOT of harm in it. It prevents you from living life to it's fullest because you live in a bubble of lies, constantly fearing action, inaction, do you pray enough, should you be praying, what if God is upset with me for this or that......

and you end up dying, having lived your whole life a slave to the biggest lie in history.

or you can believe there is a God and trust that he will forgive you for the crap you do and not worry that you are doing something wrong everyday

quiet · 03-11-2004, 03:35 AM

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Originally posted by Plan9

eh, I think it goes both ways. You're right that the god fearing religious person is going to miss out on some of the finer things in life - but then again, those people might say the same thing of an atheist, or someone with no religious beliefs at all. Its all a matter of perspective, isn't it?

ignorance may certainly be bliss, no doubt. it all depends on what you place value on.

Plan9 · 03-11-2004, 03:38 AM

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Originally posted by quiet

thumbs fucking up.

the meek shall inherit the earth? - fuck that. slave morality = the shackles preventing you from becoming all that you might be.

Amen!
We should start a GFY religion...who's with me?
Im sure there'd be some nice tax write offs involved for everyone

Instead of 'Signups' we'll them 'Donations'. Perfect.

marcu5 · 03-11-2004, 03:38 AM

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Originally posted by NiTe-HaWk

or you can believe there is a God and trust that he will forgive you for the crap you do and not worry that you are doing something wrong everyday

It all depends on what's your perception of wrong. Don't believe in everyone elses perception of what is Right and Wrong in life.

clickhappy · 03-11-2004, 03:39 AM

what would it take for you all to believe that there's an afterlife? Or even that theres something out there?

Mutt · 03-11-2004, 03:39 AM

oh if you can really get yourself to a place where you truly believe the fairytale than I am jealous of you - that would be great.

Mutt · 03-11-2004, 03:40 AM

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Originally posted by clickhappy
what would it take for you all to believe that there's an afterlife? Or even that theres something out there?

if i was contacted by a dead friend or family member.

Brujah · 03-11-2004, 03:41 AM

were you raised believing in something and then at some point came to a realization otherwise ?

rip raster · 03-11-2004, 03:44 AM

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Originally posted by clickhappy
what would it take for you all to believe that there's an afterlife? Or even that theres something out there?

Show me and I will believe

Amputate Your Head · 03-11-2004, 03:58 AM

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Originally posted by Brujah
were you raised believing in something and then at some point came to a realization otherwise ?

yes.... I was forced to go to church until I was finally "confirmed". Never went after that, and round about the time I turned 30, everything changed.

and thank god for that. (pardon the expression)

Brujah · 03-11-2004, 04:23 AM

hate to bail when it's getting good but I'm not feeling great. cheers all.

bhutocracy · 03-11-2004, 04:25 AM

no. total destruction of consciousness.

bhutocracy · 03-11-2004, 04:40 AM

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Originally posted by Brujah
were you raised believing in something and then at some point came to a realization otherwise ?

yes.

chodadog · 03-11-2004, 05:16 AM

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Originally posted by Amputate Your Head

there's a LOT of harm in it. It prevents you from living life to it's fullest because you live in a bubble of lies, constantly fearing action, inaction, do you pray enough, should you be praying, what if God is upset with me for this or that......

and you end up dying, having lived your whole life a slave to the biggest lie in history.

I think something like this might be true of some really hardcore christians, but i don't think it accurately describes all believers of some sort of afterlife.

I believe in God. I don't know why. I just do.

For me, if there's no good, there's no point. The 60, 70, 80 years that most of us will be on this rock for are absolutely insignificant in th grand scheme of things. Why even bother if there's nothing. Why not just shoot yourself now and get it over with. What's the point of living a forfilling life is you can't even look back at it and be happy with what you've achieved?

I wouldn't say i'm Christian. I share similar beliefs to christians about the way you should treat your fellow man, and all that. But i don't see the bible, or any other religious text for that matter, as the word of god.

Either way, it doesn't effect the way i live. I treat people the way i treat them because i believe it's the right thing to do. Regardless, i'm happy with my life and where it's going, and god or no god, i'm going to enjoy whatever time i have left.

Plan9 · 03-11-2004, 05:17 AM

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Originally posted by chodadog

I think something like this might be true of some really hardcore christians, but i don't think it accurately describes all believers of some sort of afterlife.

I believe in God. I don't know why. I just do.

For me, if there's no good, there's no point. The 60, 70, 80 years that most of us will be on this rock for are absolutely insignificant in th grand scheme of things. Why even bother if there's nothing. Why not just shoot yourself now and get it over with. What's the point of living a forfilling life is you can't even look back at it and be happy with what you've achieved?

I wouldn't say i'm Christian. I share similar beliefs to christians about the way you should treat your fellow man, and all that. But i don't see the bible, or any other religious text for that matter, as the word of god.

Either way, it doesn't effect the way i live. I treat people the way i treat them because i believe it's the right thing to do. Regardless, i'm happy with my life and where it's going, and god or no god, i'm going to enjoy whatever time i have left.

amen brotha

rett11 · 03-11-2004, 05:24 AM

some nice posts.

I don't believe in an afterlife, I'm afraid. sometimes I wish I did.

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wdsguy Ryde or Die Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: California-Shanghai Posts: 19,568	I am agnostic and no I don't believe in an afterlife. Well if there is one, I would prob end up in hell for all the shit i did so I definitly hope there isn't one.

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