Except, that the incidence of pedophila is PRIMARILY heterosexual by a HUGE margin. The last report I had seen that had been done by a government institution partnered with a university had the rates at like 90/10 (90% het, 10% gay).

It is amazing how these "urban myths" get started that gay men are more likely to "offend" that het men.

I'll definitely go with that...just trying to defend from the idiots.

Even if your stats are true that would mean gays are 5 to 10 times more likely than straights to be pedos since gays only make up 1 to 2 percent of the population but 10 percent of pedos. That is unless you actually believe 1 out of 10 people are gay.

It's WAYYYYYYY more than 1%.

There's no way it's less than 5%.

1 out of 20 seems high to me but I don't really know. Assuming gays are 5% of the population but 10% of pedos obviously that would mean gays are twice as likely to be pedos as straights. If that were the case that would be plenty of reason to not allow homosexuals to adopt. Then again I can't confirm or deny the validity of any of those numbers. Regardless, it takes a mother and a father to make a child and I believe both mother and father relationships are important in raising a child. I don't believe single people or gay couples should be able to adopt except in special circumstances(such as a child being orphaned and the closest relative being single or gay). Before equal rights are brought up, I'll point out that there is no right to adopt. The only thing that matters in adoption is the welfare of the child.

So you will not believe studies by the New York Times or statistics cited by organizations or estimated by experts in the field?

Poor me, what to do?

I know, if the US government tells you that you are owned, you would believe it, right? I have a feeling your defense might be, "a government lead by Bush is a good source. NOT. Huh-huh." but let's give it a try any way.

U.S. Dpt of Health & Human Services / ACF survey, http://www.acf.dhhs.gov/news/press/1996/nis.htm
Direct quote: "Girls are sexually abused three times more often than boys"

This means that around 33% of all child sexual abuse victims are BOYS. That's consistent with many of the previously posted statistics and estimations.

It is also consistent with information from PCAR (Pennsylvania Coalition Against Rape) which can be located here: http://www.pcar.org/about_sa/faqs_sa.html
Direct quote: "25-35% of child sexual abuse victims are males"

DC Rape Crisis Center also says this (http://www.dcrcc.org/male-survivors.htm).

I can go on and on about sources stating that roughly around one third of all pedophile victims are boys, but seeing as you don't believe it unless the source is the government or a gay activist organization, there's no point in wasting more time on that.

So what have we learned thus far? Around 33% of all pedophile victims are BOYS.

And you know what else? Practically ALL pedophiles are male. That goes without saying.

Now let's decide what percentage of the population at large is gay. The serious studies and statistics I have seen shows anywhere from 1 to 5%, but gay activist organizations sometimes claim figures all the way up to 8, 9, and even 10%. Let's compromise and say that the average gay population at large lies around 6%.

So...

- Homosexuality, found in around 6% of the population, is "responsible" for around 33% of the pedophile victims.
- Heterosexuality, found in around 94% of the population, is "responsible" for around 66% of the pedophile victims.

That's vastly disproportionate by GOOD margins. It must suck to have gay pride over this issue, and I pity you for it.

Also, if you for some mysterious reason still haven't had enough, explain why there are Man-Boy love associations such as NAMBLA, and no Man-Girl love associations. The many pro-pedophilia statements by gay activist organizations and leaders are also interesting in this regard. I'm not saying that all gays are anything, but you wanted evidence of homosexuality being more receptive to pedophilia, so I give it to you.

like I said before...if you feel like everyone hates you, then it's pretty hard to live your life. next thing you dumbasses will say that blacks are born more likely to commit crime. use your fucking heads.

So you're making up excuses for pedophiles? It's not their fault, it's society right?

Thanks for pointing that out again dude. I almost forgot about the previous post where you sympathize with gay pedophiles.

you guys truly think gays are born more likely to be pedophiles? I'm done here.

Nah, man of course not. Society forces them to rape children. Poor misunderstood pedophiles.:disgust

yes they should have the same rights.

I'm not supporting pedophiles...you people scare me.

I wonder what percentage of gays if any are born gay anyway and how many were "turned" that way?

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...&dopt=Abstract

"In research with 942 nonclinical adult participants, gay men and lesbian women reported a significantly higher rate of childhood molestation than did heterosexual men and women. Forty-six percent of the homosexual men in contrast to 7% of the heterosexual men reported homosexual molestation. Twenty-two percent of lesbian women in contrast to 1% of heterosexual women reported homosexual molestation."

you have GOT to be kidding.

what he said pretty much sums up what i think. (much easier than typing)

sure why not... censorship in any form is bad... unless we're talking about things that phsysically hurt other people... fuck your beliefs and religion and your homophobeness.... if it aint physically hurting you, let them be

Nope. Not kidding. Just wondering.

I know. You're not sympathizing with pedophiles in general. Just the gay ones.

oh those poor pedophiles.. so misunderstood.. you're a sick fuck you know that?

i dont see a problem with it, people need to mind their own business

So if out of 100 cases of pedophilia, 90 are commited by heterosexuals and only 10 cases are commited by gays, you really want to keep talking about how PREVALENT pedophila is among gay men??

You are not looking at the big picture at all (Plus, I do believe that there are a whole lot more of gay/bi-sexual men/women in this country that are in the closet and are not counted in the 10% thus making the # of "gays" much larger than we believe them to be.)

And I do not believe that only 1 to 2% of the population is gay. That's a religious right spin. I think it is closer to 12% or more. (that includes BI-SEXUALS as well)

i don't think so

It's amazing how people can twist numbers around and try to make them support their case. But you do not give a full spectrum on whether or not the people commiting the crimes were INDEED gay men or lesbian women. That's a VERY important point! Straight men prey on boys too! They're NOT homosexual men, but in your stats, they get thrown INTO THAT CATEGORY thus skewing the whole data!

Now dealing with studies of actual homosexual men and lesbian women:

Sexual orientation is normally thought of in terms of an adult's sexual attraction to other adults, whether to members of the same gender, opposite gender or both genders. When we think of the term "lesbian" we normally visualize a women who has been sexually attracted to (or involved with) another woman. But there are adults who do not fit this definition. They have never developed a sexual orientation towards other adults. Rather, they are sexually attracted to children. And often the gender of the child victim is immaterial. One researcher defines a "fixated child molesters" as any adult who is solely attracted to children. They also define the term "regressed child molester" as any adult who has developed a sexual orientation towards other adults, but is also attracted to children.

One study involved 175 male adults who had been convicted in Massachusetts of child sexual assault. They found that none of them were homosexuals; all of them would fit the description of a fixated child molester. They were sexually attracted only to children and not to other adults. 2 Another researcher studied sexually abused children seen in a hospital. Only 2 perpetrators (less than 1% of the total) were homosexuals (i.e. were attracted to same-sex adults).

From:
Aspects of homosexuality by researcher Gregory M. Herek at: http://psychology.ucdavis.edu/rainbow/html/
Larry Burtoft, "Setting the record Straight: What Research Really Says About the Social Consequences of Homosexuality", Focus on the Family, Colorado Springs, CO, (1994), Page 64-67

:eek7 scuse me while I take a stroll through reality, ill be back later.

If your playing with a cock, your a flamer, just cuz the cock isnt 18, doesnt mean it's not officially a cock, your still a puffer.

The fag preists alone tapping alter boy ass makes this shit unwinnable for you.. what was it.. 1 in 25 preists.. oh wait, those boys wernt 18, technically they cant have cocks till 18.. the preists are hetrosexual.

The religous right spin continues: Gay men & Lesbian women are NOT born that way, they either are FORCED to become that way or CHOOSE to become gay.

So, if we follow your logic, then STRAIGHT men and women are produced the same way.

You just do not want to believe that gay men and women (who come from NON molested homes..the great majority) are born that way and do not CHOOSE to be that way do you? You just cannot handle anyone being "different" from you or the way you view life and must search desperately to find some sort of "evidence" that these people can change their orientation if they want to. Sad..so sad you have such a closed mind.

The DEFINING word here being "NONCLINICAL"!
So, this is NOT a scientific/reliable study!!

So then that argument can be replaced with pedophiles, they're born that way.. i guess it's ok for them to run around fucking underage kids then.

Better not say no, just cause they're different from you.

I've got 2 brothers-in-law that are identical twins...raised in the same house, never molested. One is and has always been clearly gay, the other is and has always been clearly straight. No choosing going on.

Sorry if you can't deal with the established CLINICAL definition of what categories child molestors fit into. This is the same SCIENCE that so many are claiming prove gays are more likely to abuse children than hets. (Think about priests for a sec..yes, some of them ARE homosexual..and SOME of them are STRAIGHT. I don't know the breakdown of the sexual orientation of priests..but you can't say that every act of pedophila committed by a priest was done by a HOMOSEXUAL priest. The fact is that boys unfortunately are more "aviailable" and easily manipulated by priests in that environment than girls are. And when you are so highly sexually frustrated as a priest..they're supposed to be celibate..remember..they WILL act upon their sexual impulse with the most "handy" person/child available..and unfortunately that is mostly boys.)

the argument with Bloodfart is unwinnable, because he thinks that being gay is wrong and unnatural, and we aren't gonna change his mind.

Oh come on..that's so lame. I'm not saying, and I don't think ANYONE in this thread is saying it's ok for pedophiles to abuse kids! Ridiculous!

Ahh ha, that proves it, and it is beyond the realm of possibility that the gay one was molested and hid the fact. Most people will never admit to being molested because they see it as something they did wrong so they try to hide it.

If you asked how big my dick was, i could say 14 inches, doesnt mean it's the truth.

that's the best you can do? come on...

No! They are gay !

Well why the fuck not? They were born that way.. it's natural to them, it's inhumane to discriminate against them, they're people too, lets see.. what else... studys show monkys have sex with other underage monkeys too, that means it's genetic.. not learned.. blah blah blah.. monkeys also fling shit at each other for entertainment.

Ok, i'll leave your imaginary brothers out of it, get back to your defending pedo's, convince me why it's ok.

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