Donny

DonovanPhillips (06:31 PM) :
How did you get yourself unbanned?

Epic Media (06:38 PM) :
im magic and it bugs the shit out of you doesnt it? lol

DonovanPhillips (06:38 PM) :
Doesn't bother me at all.

DonovanPhillips (06:39 PM) :
I think it's pretty pathetic that you'll pay to be unbanned. I'm sure it cost you a nice sum.

Epic Media (06:39 PM) :
heh

Epic Media (06:39 PM) :
guess you will nerver know

DonovanPhillips (06:40 PM) :
That board has turned into a bunch of worthless posts anyway. I guess having you back just continues business as usual.

Epic Media (06:40 PM) :
exactly.. i do what i can to help

Epic Media (06:40 PM) :
take care kiddo

DonovanPhillips (06:41 PM) :
Funny being called a kiddo by a 26 year old.

Epic Media (06:41 PM) :
ohh ahh ohhh

DonovanPhillips (06:42 PM) :
Does your business partner, you know, the guy with all the money, appreciate your posts?

Epic Media (06:42 PM) :
yea he pays me 5 bucks a post

Epic Media (06:43 PM) :
how much does it bother you that i can get away with the shit i do and be this young and have more money than you can ever possible dream of?

Epic Media (06:43 PM) :
sucks doesnt it?

DonovanPhillips (06:43 PM) :
That's pretty laughable. Now you're starting to sound like Grogan.

Epic Media (06:44 PM) :
nah, just want to point out the fact that you are an old man and not really successfull by anyones standards

Epic Media (06:45 PM) :
talk dirty to me

Epic Media (06:45 PM) :
like you do your crack head models

DonovanPhillips (06:45 PM) :
You have no clue. You know nothing about me. You're just a cocky kid with a minority share in Epic Cash. And that minority share makes you feel important.

Epic Media (06:45 PM) :
hehe

Epic Media (06:45 PM) :
aslong as you think that...

DonovanPhillips (06:46 PM) :
I'd compare my income to yours any day if there was a way to get you to tell the truth. But there's not.

The fact is, your partner brought the money to the table. You bring nothing but the attitude of a loud mouth kid. That attitude works well with other kids, which is why you're on GFY so much.

Epic Media (06:46 PM) :
no witty retort?... must be the old age

Epic Media (06:47 PM) :
and you know this for a fact eh?

DonovanPhillips (06:47 PM) :
I do.

Epic Media (06:47 PM) :
you must be pretty smart guy

DonovanPhillips (06:47 PM) :
I'm an old man, you know.

Epic Media (06:47 PM) :
no actually you dont

Epic Media (06:47 PM) :
i own epic 50%

DonovanPhillips (06:47 PM) :
Been around a long time. LOL.

Epic Media (06:47 PM) :
who gives a shit who helped financed... it wouldnt be where it was today without me

DonovanPhillips (06:48 PM) :
Exactly what do you contribute?

Epic Media (06:48 PM) :
thats my business. i built epic 100%. only thing my partner did was fincance it

Epic Media (06:48 PM) :
could care less if you belive it or not

DonovanPhillips (06:51 PM) :
I think your program is a lot of hot air, personally.

Epic Media (06:51 PM) :
everyone has thier own opinion

Epic Media (06:51 PM) :
i didnt buy a 450k house with hot air.

Epic Media (06:52 PM) :
keep inmind epic is 1 year old

Epic Media (06:52 PM) :
i think you are actually jealous

DonovanPhillips (06:52 PM) :
Epic is 1 year old with sites that leave a LOT to be desired. They frankly suck.

DonovanPhillips (06:52 PM) :
I'm sure you're still in negative cash flow situation. How long will your money partner put up with that?

Epic Media (06:52 PM) :
heh

Epic Media (06:53 PM) :
yep you are jealous

DonovanPhillips (06:53 PM) :
Why would I be jealous of a "fake it 'til you make it" loud mouth kid?

Epic Media (06:54 PM) :
because you are frustrated seeing an asshole 'kid' run a successfull business and are trying to justify it by it being a big lie

DonovanPhillips (06:55 PM) :
Do any of your sites even break the 100,000 mark on Alexa?

Epic Media (06:55 PM) :
dunno, go check yourself

Epic Media (06:55 PM) :
i could care less about that stuff

Epic Media (06:56 PM) :
u would have to search for epiccash.com because all traffic goes through epic fyi

DonovanPhillips (06:56 PM) :
Alexa is admittedly not 100% accurate, but it does give a decent indication of things. I don't think I've seen any of your sites below 100,000.

Epic Media (06:56 PM) :
they wont be smart guy

Epic Media (06:56 PM) :
i just said all hits go through epiccash

DonovanPhillips (06:57 PM) :
I'm clicking on your links now. So far I've got a 145,000 ranking as the lowest. Your sticky site is above 2 million. Damn.

Epic Media (06:57 PM) :
im curious, why do you even care about me? why are you letting me occupy your time?

Epic Media (06:57 PM) :
are you drunk or something?

DonovanPhillips (06:57 PM) :
Nah, just really bored.

Epic Media (06:57 PM) :
cool

DonovanPhillips (06:58 PM) :
When I'm bored I like to start shit with fakers. Your program is as fake as they come. There is no way you're breaking even. It's just a matter of time until your money man pulls the plug. He won't keep losing money for long.

Epic Media (07:00 PM) :
heh

Epic Media (07:00 PM) :
well ok

DonovanPhillips (07:01 PM) :
Besides, this conversation would probably make a decent GFY drama thread, wouldn't it?

Epic Media (07:01 PM) :
let me send you a taste of what an avg month from 1 sponsor on my exits is like ok? just for giggles

Epic Media (07:01 PM) :
yea ill prolly post it after we are done

DonovanPhillips (07:01 PM) :
LOL.

DonovanPhillips (07:02 PM) :
I don't dislike you personally Trey. But I do hate hot air bags.

Epic Media (07:02 PM) :
what can i do to prove to you im not a fake?

Epic Media (07:02 PM) :
you are not an idiot, i know that

DonovanPhillips (07:02 PM) :
well, the outside evidence needs to be there for one.

Epic Media (07:02 PM) :
actually had some respect for you awhile back.. but thats all gone

Epic Media (07:02 PM) :
outside evidence? such as?

DonovanPhillips (07:03 PM) :
and your sites rate so poorly on Alexa that it's hard to believe you do well at all. then couple that with what you spend advertising, etc, and it's very evident that EpicCash is burning money with the hopes of future gains.

Epic Media (07:04 PM) :
so my success is based on advertising and alexa?

Epic Media (07:04 PM) :
come on man, that is an ignorant comment

DonovanPhillips (07:05 PM) :
Not only that, but opinions expressed by people that actually know something in this business.

Epic Media (07:05 PM) :
opinions are opinions my friend

Epic Media (07:05 PM) :
we all have them

Epic Media (07:06 PM) :
was trying to send you a screen cap, guess you dont want any proof

DonovanPhillips (07:06 PM) :
yeah, but you and i both know the "old guys" in this biz usually know what's going on.

DonovanPhillips (07:06 PM) :
i didn't decline it.

Epic Media (07:07 PM) :
usually is the key word.

DonovanPhillips (07:07 PM) :
I think ICQ file transfer doesn't work well on my satellite connection.

DonovanPhillips (07:07 PM) :
you can email [email protected] if you wish.

Epic Media (07:08 PM) :
sent. screen cap of last month exits with TCG

Epic Media (07:08 PM) :
and thats only 1 of 30 sponsors i use

Epic Media (07:08 PM) :
take it for what its worth.

DonovanPhillips (07:09 PM) :
So you're sending me the income you made sending exit traffic to someone else's program?

Epic Media (07:09 PM) :
yea

Epic Media (07:09 PM) :
just a sample since you dont beleive me

DonovanPhillips (07:09 PM) :
How will this prove anything about Epic Cash?

Epic Media (07:09 PM) :
i would think it gives you an idea of the volume we do

Epic Media (07:10 PM) :
but whatever

DonovanPhillips (07:11 PM) :
I just think it's funny that you'd send reports from someone else's program, and not your own.

DonovanPhillips (07:11 PM) :
And there is no date on this either. That could be sales from one year. $30,000 over one year isn't much.

Epic Media (07:11 PM) :
lol

Epic Media (07:11 PM) :
omg ok 1 sec

Epic Media (07:11 PM) :
jesus

DonovanPhillips (07:11 PM) :
Excuse me, $30,600 over one year. Wouldn't want to short you the extra $600

Epic Media (07:12 PM) :
its 1 month.

Epic Media (07:12 PM) :
and if you had any knowledgs of how traffic cash gold stats area is, you would know you cant screen cap everything including date and the revune

Epic Media (07:12 PM) :
due to the frame

DonovanPhillips (07:13 PM) :
I don't use TCG. Doubt I ever will.

Epic Media (07:13 PM) :
tell me why i am even wasting my time witht his? you dont pay my bills or my affiliates

Epic Media (07:13 PM) :
glad to hear it

DonovanPhillips (07:14 PM) :
Your affiliates are paid by your money partner right now. How long do you think he'll keep losing money?

DonovanPhillips (07:14 PM) :
Did he have any experience in adult before this?

Epic Media (07:14 PM) :
how can i answer a question like that? its not even true

DonovanPhillips (07:15 PM) :
Or is he just one of those guys that assume there's gold in adult and so he's willing to sink his savings into it for a year or two in hopes that a real program will develop?

Epic Media (07:15 PM) :
yea damn, you hit the nail right on the head

Epic Media (07:15 PM) :
i cant get anything past you lol

lil2rich4u2

omg thats long, cliff notes anyone?

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wow i actually read all of that... you owe me some popcorn.

BradM

Donovan: Not sure what you tried to accomplish there. Read the whole thread.

Donny

DonovanPhillips (07:16 PM) :
hey, i beat you to the gfy post. LOL

Epic Media (07:16 PM) :
that sucks, we didnt even get a chance to finish the convo

DonovanPhillips (07:17 PM) :
We were pretty much at a stand still, but we can always continue in the thread. LOL.

Epic Media (07:17 PM) :
yea true dat

DonovanPhillips (07:18 PM) :
It's fun. Again, I have nothing personal against you.

D-man

I am now dumber for having read that -

that was 2 mins of my life I will nver get back - you owe me!

Rorschach

Interesting but I don't really see the point either. Alexa stats don't mean jack shit.

Illicit

I thought it was some funny shit...

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Illicit

all that tells me is to drop epic and sign up for tcg

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Can I post my cyber convos with Pimpdawg, too?

They're sexy and massive turnons... the man gets me off every time.

jact

Doesn't look anything like my conversations with Trey Show me some love, Trey!

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p1mpdogg

lol

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Donny

Exactly. You see the point.

BradM

Hahaha I know hey... usually short and to the point.

p1mpdogg

we dont talk on icq... icq me im sure we can alk about something...

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Donny

You are correct. BUT even so, you'll have to admit that a program whose sites have alexa ratings from 145,000 to over 2 million is probably not all that great.

Murphy_Dog

Donny out to rid the world of all the bad boys again.


Ya know, if you would spend more time preparing your models for a shoot and less time worrying about posting here and playing "daddy" to all the "bad" boys you might make even MORE money then you claim to make now.

Your shit is deep and old!

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Don't even think about it. Been here WAY before you!

jact

That really hurts!

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tbabe

pimpdog has alot of patience on icq. LOL

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p1mpdogg

donny sounds alot like serge


if you are not ranked high on alexa then you are a nodoby... how stupid can someone be to reply on alexa to rate success of something?


especially since all traffic goes through epiccash before it hits the site.....

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p1mpdogg

haha

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Spunky

The insight of a professional...Intresting read none the less...

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cool1

So what does it all mean

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KMR Stitch

I wish I was paid 5.00 per post..

Then again wasen't Paid per post = Banning?

p1mpdogg

i think donny is drinking tonight

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BradM

Alexa ranks sites based on how the users WITH THEIR TOOLBAR visit a site.

I'll leave the rest up to you to figure out. However all I can say is:

ALEXA means SHIT.

maxjohan

lol.

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Donny

Basically it means this:

EpicCash is a start up company. Like all start ups, they are sinking a TON of money into starting their company. They HOPE to succeed, but as of now they are in a negative cash flow situation.

hudson

I hate to say it, but this thread is making me very sleepy....

p1mpdogg

you have any proof what so ever we have a negative cash situation?

thats a very bold statement with nothing to back it up with donny...


lets see some proof.

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PMdave

so this is how grown ups behave?
Hit someone up on icq, start insulting them, call them 'a loud mouth kid', accusing them of thing they just have no clue about, sell some other bullshit and than you copy your icq conversation and post it on a board...

No big fan of pimpdog myself, but you have just beaten him in the most idiot post contest.

If you hate him that much don't give hime the pleasure of starting a thread about him. He loves the exposure to much.

arial

And the point is...?

Donny

Yes, that is partially true. But the fact is, Alexa gives a decent indication. Not 100% accurate, but a decent indication.

Please post the URL to any adult site that is known to be successful. I guarantee their Alexa rating will be below 100,000. Trey doesn't have a site below 100,000. And some of them are in the millions.

SENSEX

i have nothing usefull to contribute to this conversation

Holly

That's what I was wondering, too. Where's the popcorn part?

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Shit donovan I went all in on my poker just to read that shit!
I don't see any drama here....

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liquidmoe

Wouldn't most of their expenditures come during the opening stages one year ago when they had to shoot content to fill all the sites, fill everything up and so forth. Now they just do updates, much less cash to spend, they've been operating for a year, and there isn't really too many people bad mouthing them. Something against pimpdog is one thing but doesn't say much about the program itself.

This thread needs more drama.

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u guys are both fucking losssssssers.

haha dont u have better shit to do than argue about boards when you both have extremely small cocks.

Donny

If you read the entire conversation you'll see the Pimp himself was going to post the conversation. I just happened to beat him to it.

Spunky

Quick to the *Glitch Machine*

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Illicit

pseudo-drama

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Now we're heating up..carry on.

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PMdave

And even IF he has a negative cashflow is that your problem?

Fletch XXX

i actually predicted this.

no better night than tonight.

tdf: let loose the kraken and bump some crunk shit. who ? what ? when ?

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p1mpdogg

actually donny, i had no intentions of posting this.. it just makes us both look stupid

lol

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Donny

** Sigh ** Some people have to have things spelled out for them...

I called EpicTrash a fake. To prove me wrong he emails me his stats from traffic sent to SOMEONE ELSE'S program. Couple that with his being a minority partner, and the fact that none of his sites get any traffic to speak of, and we have drama.

Sly_RJ

Jesus Christ you need a life. Go teach your models how to wipe their ass properly or something.

Even if Epic Cash was losing money (it wasn't a year ago if I recall correctly, I doubt it is now), who fucking cares? TONS of businesses operate on debt for years. So what? Thats what investors are for.

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PMdave

Nothing exceptional about that.... LOTS of sponsors depend on the payout from other sponsors on the consoles on their own sites.

Nothing stupid about that, just a part of running an affiliate program IMHO