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SomeCreep 03-02-2004 11:46 PM

150 thumbs down for PIBCash :glugglug

Tam 03-02-2004 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RainMailer
Tam
Whats your opinion on his sidekick K-Rock? Is this Rod or was there really a guy named K-Rock?

K-rock was NOT Rodney... I had his phone number and I looke dhim up myself..... I am NOT 100% sure of exactly who heis as in nicks and such, but I DO know it wasn't Rodney. He was hired AFTER I was fired....... from what I was TOLD, Rodney hired 4 people to replace me....... if that isn't one hell of a note of my ability and all I did for that company, then I don't know what was.

LMAO

SleazyDream 03-02-2004 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tam

.......I was not allowed to talk to Aaron and was told to stay away from him....... he was doing nothing but causing problems he said.

Well, Rodney was right there......... lol

AaronM 03-02-2004 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by IPK


stop hiding behind that nick.

No shit.

Jimbo 03-02-2004 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SleazyDream


Well, Rodney was right there......... lol

no doubt :1orglaugh

Tam 03-02-2004 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SleazyDream


Well, Rodney was right there......... lol

Yeah but look what happened..... as a result of not being able to hang with Aaron, I got to spend an entire evening with YOU..... :thumbsup

Pornkings 03-02-2004 11:53 PM

Tam why didn't you come say hi to me at the Jan. show

SleazyDream 03-02-2004 11:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tam


Yeah but look what happened..... as a result of not being able to hang with Aaron, I got to spend an entire evening with YOU..... :thumbsup

:thumbsup

- Jesus Christ - 03-02-2004 11:55 PM

http://www.mindcontroll.com/gfy_turns.jpg

Tev 03-02-2004 11:56 PM

Too late for Rodney to do a lot of things now.

I wonder if we will even see an attempt at a spin on this from him.

RainMailer 03-02-2004 11:56 PM

Aaron I have some interesting info you may want to know about. I am gonna hang here a bit longer if you want to msg me about this.

Tam 03-02-2004 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pornkings
Tam why didn't you come say hi to me at the Jan. show
I started over there a few times and was pulled away, once literally..... not in a mean way, just pulled away to talk to "someone else"....... I told him I wanted to meet and talk to you and I DID manage to get me a fucking shirt..... LMAO

Seriously though, what was said to me was "fuck him, he is a wannabe and he ain't anyone I will ever do business with"..... and "Look at him sitting there, he looks like a fucking pimp, what an asshole". SO I never got to meet you and I was upset about that one. :(

integrated 03-02-2004 11:58 PM

trial by media

he is already guilty in many ppls eyes

and if this does indeed turn out to be false accusations it can be considered LIBEL

Jellybeen 03-02-2004 11:59 PM

Aaron I'm glad you're finally in a position to say something and go on with other projects.
Still, it would have been nice months ago if you had said *anything* positive about everyone's reactions to those screencaps. Your comments at the time in the face of such blatant shaving made YOU look bad, as if you were condoning the act and trying to cover for the shaving that was being done to affiliates sending traffic to ToniFreeland.
It really, really made you look untrustworthy and I'm glad you're coming out now to clear things up.

:thumbsup :thumbsup to Tam - we knew those screencaps were real all along hon, it was obvious. The ones trying to trash you and trash the screencaps evidently had a vested interest in doing so. Many more of us knew better.
You rock!! ;)

Pornkings 03-03-2004 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tam


I started over there a few times and was pulled away, once literally..... not in a mean way, just pulled away to talk to "someone else"....... I told him I wanted to meet and talk to you and I DID manage to get me a fucking shirt..... LMAO

Seriously though, what was said to me was "fuck him, he is a wannabe and he ain't anyone I will ever do business with"..... and "Look at him sitting there, he looks like a fucking pimp, what an asshole". SO I never got to meet you and I was upset about that one. :(

Damn he really said that. LMAO

at least he got the Pimp part right

vicki 03-03-2004 12:00 AM

Aaron, GOOD MOVE!
wishing you a smackdown victory

Tam :thumbsup

Baxter 03-03-2004 12:01 AM

Go Get Them Aaron :BangBang:

SleazyDream 03-03-2004 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tam


Yeah but look what happened..... as a result of not being able to hang with Aaron, I got to spend an entire evening with YOU..... :thumbsup

actually it's rare i don't end up at the same places as AaronM at conventions......

SomeCreep 03-03-2004 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by - Jesus Christ -
http://www.mindcontroll.com/gfy_turns.jpg
:1orglaugh

Tam 03-03-2004 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by integrated
trial by media

he is already guilty in many ppls eyes

and if this does indeed turn out to be false accusations it can be considered LIBEL

I believe it isn't libel if it is true and facts, right? EVERYTHING I Have said has been documented as what Aaron has said has been documented......... and all if it is provable and fact.... so I am not sure where libel falls into this.

:1orglaugh

Pornkings... hell yes he said that... and then when I started to go BACK another time........ *I* was out of your league... well I am sorry but NO ONE is out of my leaque and I am not afraid to approach ANYONE about anything........ think I have more than proven that over the last 5 years..... LMAO

Honeyslut 03-03-2004 12:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by integrated
trial by media

he is already guilty in many ppls eyes

and if this does indeed turn out to be false accusations it can be considered LIBEL

Since libel is your word of the day for today, what's it going to be for tomorrow !


:)

Tam 03-03-2004 12:07 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SleazyDream


actually it's rare i don't end up at the same places as AaronM at conventions......

Well you weren't THAT night, you was my bitch that night.. LMAO

AaronM 03-03-2004 12:07 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jellybeen
Aaron I'm glad you're finally in a position to say something and go on with other projects.
Still, it would have been nice months ago if you had said *anything* positive about everyone's reactions to those screencaps. Your comments at the time in the face of such blatant shaving made YOU look bad, as if you were condoning the act and trying to cover for the shaving that was being done to affiliates sending traffic to ToniFreeland.
It really, really made you look untrustworthy and I'm glad you're coming out now to clear things up.

FYI...More harm can be done off these boards than on it. Off the boards, I was able to speak to those that I trusted. Some of PIBCash's top affiliates knew the full story 3 months before it publicly broke out. To this day they are still sending sales. Not that they have been properly compensated though. It's also fairly amazing how their sales doubled after the shaving scandle even though their traffic remained about the same.

quiet 03-03-2004 12:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Honeyslut


Since libel is your word of the day for today, what's it going to be for tomorrow !


:)

i think that's his word every day ;)

JulianSosa 03-03-2004 12:09 AM

Im confused how did Tams 5 sites make 50% of $2300 over 5 months?

exitmoney 03-03-2004 12:10 AM

Way to go Aaron, and wish you all the best and luck. Is time to clean the damn biz of all the scams going on .

Honeyslut 03-03-2004 12:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet


i think that's his word every day ;)

I think orgasm would make a nice word of the day !

AaronM 03-03-2004 12:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SleazyDream


actually it's rare i don't end up at the same places as AaronM at conventions......


We are practicly joined at the hip....Unless Sleazy is too hung over to come out and play. But even then...He is puking in my suitcases and so forth. :thumbsup

Love ya buddy. :winkwink:

Tam 03-03-2004 12:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JulianSosa
Im confused how did Tams 5 sites make 50% of $2300 over 5 months?
THAT is what was owed to me at the time I was fired. He had paid me some of it, but when I was fired, I wanted the rest of my money........ my sites made A LOT more than that. LOL

The deal was, I had them with him and we shared the profits from them 50/50 AFTER webmasters were paid.... and after the webmasters were paid, MY share was over $4k....... what was left owed to me when I left was $2300..... which I FINALLY got.

I was offered a buyout on my sites and I refused the amount I was offered, so when I left, I took them with me. I paid for them...... design, content, hosting and all, and I took them with me and started my new program with them........ THANK GOD I never put them on his server.... I kept them on mine. :winkwink:

Tam 03-03-2004 12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jellybeen
Aaron I'm glad you're finally in a position to say something and go on with other projects.
Still, it would have been nice months ago if you had said *anything* positive about everyone's reactions to those screencaps. Your comments at the time in the face of such blatant shaving made YOU look bad, as if you were condoning the act and trying to cover for the shaving that was being done to affiliates sending traffic to ToniFreeland.
It really, really made you look untrustworthy and I'm glad you're coming out now to clear things up.

:thumbsup :thumbsup to Tam - we knew those screencaps were real all along hon, it was obvious. The ones trying to trash you and trash the screencaps evidently had a vested interest in doing so. Many more of us knew better.
You rock!! ;)

Thanks babe...... your support means a lot to me.

And please don't think ill of Aaron...... he had a LOT more at stake than I ever had...... LUCKILY I was able to walk with my sites or I would have been in the same position he was in....... legal messes don't get fixed overnight. BUT I can assure you, the INSTANT he knew what was going on, he did take care of it.... he at NO point was ever misleading to anyone....... and I can honestly say this. NO ONE had access to what I had access to, and once I found out, that's when I became the company troublemaker..... imagine that. LMAO

AaronM 03-03-2004 12:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tam
I was offered a buyout on my sites and I refused the amount I was offered
Funny...I too was offered an insulting buy out figure.

Jellybeen 03-03-2004 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AaronM
To this day they are still sending sales. Not that they have been properly compensated though. It's also fairly amazing how their sales doubled after the shaving scandle even though their traffic remained about the same.
Talk about taking a risk. Crazy.

Tam 03-03-2004 12:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AaronM


Funny...I too was offered an insulting buy out figure.

Yeah I bet, I know what was offered for mine and THAT was insulting enough.... my god, I can only imagine how bad yours was. LOL

AaronM 03-03-2004 12:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tam


Yeah I bet, I know what was offered for mine and THAT was insulting enough.... my god, I can only imagine how bad yours was. LOL

6 grand :1orglaugh

Do you have any clue what this content is worth?

JulianSosa 03-03-2004 12:36 AM

Good luck to all involved.

Im still confused about all the low numbers.

AaronM 03-03-2004 12:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JulianSosa
Good luck to all involved.

Im still confused about all the low numbers.

Well then....There's nothing like keeping a good drama thread on top by asking and answering questions.

Care to be more specific?

Raven 03-03-2004 12:41 AM

There are two people here, Aaron, who have your back. Always.

Rodney. If you're smart, you'll do right by Aaron.

In all my years on the Internet, Rodney, I am known for not breaking confidences or speaking about a client's program.

In your case, I am willing to make an exception.

You have done Aaron wrong. Make it right.

integrated 03-03-2004 12:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Raven
There are two people here, Aaron, who have your back. Always.

Rodney. If you're smart, you'll do right by Aaron.

In all my years on the Internet, Rodney, I am known for not breaking confidences or speaking about a client's program.

In your case, I am willing to make an exception.

You have done Aaron wrong. Make it right.

that was deep

Tam 03-03-2004 12:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AaronM


6 grand :1orglaugh

Do you have any clue what this content is worth?

GOOD GOD, that's even worse than the $300 each I was offered for mine..... LORD!! :mad:

He DID manage to buy one of his "partners" out and I TRIED to tell that one what had happened, but that one refused to believe me even AFTER I faxed him copies of what I had...... it was told to him that I made it up..... YEAH.... umm right. THIS person continued to trash me and my husband at every turn for awhile, but haven't heard from that one...... maybe they finally woke up? :winkwink:

makefuckingmoney 03-03-2004 12:49 AM

Well after sifting thru some of this....

If you were him, and his reputation, and DEAD program. Would you pay out still?

I mean look at perfection girls..he backpeddled like mad and now the sites are "sold" to someone else.

I wouldnt expect checks from someone that is dead in the water..

He will be back in about 2 months.. as someone else..

And for anyone still promoting his program, after the numerous screen shots etc of shaving...WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU??

AaronM 03-03-2004 12:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by integrated


that was deep

Considering who it is comming from...Yes, it was.

Thanks for your kind words Raven. :)

JulianSosa 03-03-2004 12:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AaronM


Well then....There's nothing like keeping a good drama thread on top by asking and answering questions.

Care to be more specific?

Tams $4000 for 5 sites over 5 months at her 50% afer affiliates.

I mean Im all for lots of little sites making a few bucks a day but this seems real low.

Edit I mean no disrespect to Tam in this statement.

AaronM 03-03-2004 12:54 AM

I am gonna go watch a movie now. I will be back to bump this thread later.


OH and hello Rodney. I know you too fucking well. You are sitting there reading this...Blaming me and cussing me out. Do yourself a favor for once. Accept the blame yourself. You brought this on and it is far from over.

Remember when you told time what an idiot you thought I was?

Remember that when you are having difficulty sleeping tonight. :1orglaugh

JulianSosa 03-03-2004 12:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AaronM
I am gonna go watch a movie now. I will be back to bump this thread later.


OH and hello Rodney. I know you too fucking well. You are sitting there reading this...Blaming me and cussing me out. Do yourself a favor for once. Accept the blame yourself. You brought this on and it is far from over.

Remember when you told time what an idiot you thought I was?

Remember that when you are having difficulty sleeping tonight. :1orglaugh

What movie?

VeriSexy 03-03-2004 12:57 AM

Good luck

Bump for AaronM

:glugglug

toddler 03-03-2004 01:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AaronM
I am gonna go watch a movie now. I will be back to bump this thread later.


OH and hello Rodney. I know you too fucking well. You are sitting there reading this...Blaming me and cussing me out. Do yourself a favor for once. Accept the blame yourself. You brought this on and it is far from over.

Remember when you told time what an idiot you thought I was?

Remember that when you are having difficulty sleeping tonight. :1orglaugh


Good style.

AaronM 03-03-2004 01:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JulianSosa


Tams $4000 for 5 sites over 5 months at her 50% afer affiliates.

I mean Im all for lots of little sites making a few bucks a day but this seems real low.

Edit I mean no disrespect to Tam in this statement.

It is really low. No offense meant to Tam but the majority of the sites under PIBCash did not make shit becaue Rodney would not market them correctly.

psyko514 03-03-2004 01:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JulianSosa


Tams $4000 for 5 sites over 5 months at her 50% afer affiliates.

I mean Im all for lots of little sites making a few bucks a day but this seems real low.

Edit I mean no disrespect to Tam in this statement.

Say the membership to the sites was $20. 60% to affiliates, ~12% to the processor. Leaves 28% split between both of them. $2.80 per sale. That's over 1400 sales. About 285 per site. PIB Cash wasn't a huge program AFAIK.

If you look at the <a href=http://www.hotchickpost.com/fullscreenie.jpg>stats screenshot</a>, you'll see the top affiliate only made 333 sales in a 3 month period.

My numbers are probably way off, but you can do the math.

psyko514 03-03-2004 01:03 AM

Funny stuff.

http://www.pibcash.com/images/index_10.gif

nojob 03-03-2004 01:04 AM

your right there is alot of dram on this board.


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