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Old 02-29-2004, 10:43 PM   #1
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Bush Orders US Government Not To Accept Any SSA Name Changes From SF

Wow.

The Bush Administration has ordered the Social Security Administration not to accept or allow any marital name changes even from straight couples if you got married in San Francisco because of the gay marriage issue until this issue is resolved in the courts.

That's totally fucked up for the straight couples, as well as the gay ones.

The lawyers will have a field day with this bullshit move.

The courts are going to be clogged for years cause of all this discrimination.
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Just another move that will help speed up the revolution.

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doesn't he have anything better to do, i mean seriously
It's a good way to shift focus away from the bigger problems he's caused.
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that doesnt help me fletch...
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"in a drop top chevy with the roof wide open,
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that i understand :-)
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that i understand :-)
my english not so good.

but bush gave me a license and a greencard, maybe i fuck your white wife and assbang your little boy like a good catholic priest?

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, i gotta give to bush he's a bold man..he klnow americans are sissies and won't do nothing..here's to you bush for having the nuts to fo what the fuck you wanna do....haha
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Wow.

The Bush Administration has ordered the Social Security Administration not to accept or allow any marital name changes even from straight couples if you got married in San Francisco because of the gay marriage issue until this issue is resolved in the courts.

That's totally fucked up for the straight couples, as well as the gay ones.

The lawyers will have a field day with this bullshit move.

The courts are going to be clogged for years cause of all this discrimination.
To be honest, only Bush can beat Bush in the next election. It is his for the losing. I'd say he's doing a good job of beating himself so far!!

For all the people affected by this, I just don't have the words.

The Repbulicans would do well to find someone else to run! It's a bit late for that I guess.
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my english not so good.

but bush gave me a license and a greencard, maybe i fuck your white wife and assbang your little boy like a good catholic priest?


how nice of you, my wife is white and my son is 8 years old. show your face in my neck of the woods and you are a dead man :-) thanks to the NRA i have an AK with tracers for night
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To be honest, only Bush can beat Bush in the next election. It is his for the losing. I'd say he's doing a good job of beating himself so far!!

For all the people affected by this, I just don't have the words.

The Repbulicans would do well to find someone else to run! It's a bit late for that I guess.
haha,keep thonking that bush is the last u.s. he will do WHATEVA it takes to be in office...martial law, war, rigging, etc... face it and bow down to your dicator
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haha,keep thonking that bush is the last u.s. he will do WHATEVA it takes to be in office...martial law, war, rigging, etc... face it and bow down to your dicator
You make a good and scary point.

Here's a press article backing up and expanding on what KRL posted:

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cg...NG1Q5ALUN1.DTL

BTW, this didn't make it to drudge yet. Will it?
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Jesus fucking christ Atom. Read the damn news yourself. You think I'm making it up??? I don't post news unless its factual OK.



SAN FRANCISCO - Mayor Gavin Newsom accused President Bush of political showmanship and discrimination because of the Social Security Administration's decision to not accept any marriage licenses from San Francisco ? gay or straight ? until the same-sex issue is resolved.

Newsom addressed a huge crowd at his first town hall meeting Saturday, 52 days after taking office and a little more than two weeks after he authorized city officials to grant marriage licenses to same-sex couples.

Such meetings typically draw a few dozen people, but nearly 1,000 gathered for Saturday's town hall in the Castro district, a predominantly gay and lesbian section of the city. Some in the crowd carried signs reading: "Thank You Mayor" and "Gavin ? Our Hero."

The Social Security Administration announced Friday it has told its offices nationwide not to accept marriage certificates from San Francisco as proof of identification for newlyweds looking to make name changes on Social Security cards.

Newsom called the move "political and retaliatory."

"The president is not only now discriminating against gay couples, he's discriminating against straight people," he said.

Newsom also said his administration looks forward to arguing the constitutionality of same-sex marriages before the California Supreme Court.

The high court on Friday declined a request by Attorney General Bill Lockyer to immediately shut down San Francisco's gay weddings. More than 3,400 such ceremonies have been performed since the city began issuing the licenses Feb. 12.

The justices told the city and a conservative group that opposes gay marriage to file new legal briefs by March 5 in response to the attorney general's petition. Earlier, lower-court judges also declined to immediately end the same-sex marriages.

"Not only did two lower court judges ... determine there is no irreparable harm being done, now the Supreme Court said the same thing," Newsom said.
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You make a good and scary point.

do bush seem worried? he seem like a man that KNOWS what's ahead of him...i know he's not the sharpest tool in the shed,but how many prez have ticked off soo many people before an election....
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http://www.etaiwannews.com/World/200...1078106280.htm

One more source. Don't know if that will cut it for ya?
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He's giving a lot of straight men a second chance to think about what they are doing and have an excuse to not get married. Bush isn't all bad.
Wrong reason may lead to a good outcome?

Where was he when I got married and then got married again?
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The Bush Administration has ordered the Social Security Administration not to accept or allow any marital name changes even from straight couples if you got married in San Francisco because of the gay marriage issue until this issue is resolved in the courts.

the statement above appears to have no basis of truth when compared to the news article below:

SAN FRANCISCO - Mayor Gavin Newsom accused President Bush of political showmanship and discrimination because of the Social Security Administration's decision to not accept any marriage licenses from San Francisco ? gay or straight ? until the same-sex issue is resolved.

Newsom addressed a huge crowd at his first town hall meeting Saturday, 52 days after taking office and a little more than two weeks after he authorized city officials to grant marriage licenses to same-sex couples.

Such meetings typically draw a few dozen people, but nearly 1,000 gathered for Saturday's town hall in the Castro district, a predominantly gay and lesbian section of the city. Some in the crowd carried signs reading: "Thank You Mayor" and "Gavin ? Our Hero."

The Social Security Administration announced Friday it has told its offices nationwide not to accept marriage certificates from San Francisco as proof of identification for newlyweds looking to make name changes on Social Security cards.

Newsom called the move "political and retaliatory."

"The president is not only now discriminating against gay couples, he's discriminating against straight people," he said.

Newsom also said his administration looks forward to arguing the constitutionality of same-sex marriages before the California Supreme Court.

The high court on Friday declined a request by Attorney General Bill Lockyer to immediately shut down San Francisco's gay weddings. More than 3,400 such ceremonies have been performed since the city began issuing the licenses Feb. 12.

The justices told the city and a conservative group that opposes gay marriage to file new legal briefs by March 5 in response to the attorney general's petition. Earlier, lower-court judges also declined to immediately end the same-sex marriages.

"Not only did two lower court judges ... determine there is no irreparable harm being done, now the Supreme Court said the same thing," Newsom said.
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That said, the social security admin is right in not accepting marriage certs from SF.
SF has shown itself to be breaking the law and all documents coming from it MUST be considered suspect.
I feel sorry for the law abiding citizens who have to suffer for the lawlessness of its left wing mayor and vocal outlaw minority.
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That said, the social security admin is right in not accepting marriage certs from SF.
SF has shown itself to be breaking the law and all documents coming from it MUST be considered suspect.
I feel sorry for the law abiding citizens who have to suffer for the lawlessness of its left wing mayor and vocal outlaw minority.
Bill Clinton signed the "Defense of Marriage Act" into law. It is illegal for the federal government to recognize a gay marriage.
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Wow.

The Bush Administration has ordered the Social Security Administration not to accept or allow any marital name changes even from straight couples if you got married in San Francisco because of the gay marriage issue until this issue is resolved in the courts.

That's totally fucked up for the straight couples, as well as the gay ones.

The lawyers will have a field day with this bullshit move.

The courts are going to be clogged for years cause of all this discrimination.
Bush is totally overstepping his boundries these days. Hopefully this costs him his re-election in Nov.


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dude, don't confuse them with the facts. Let the lemmings hate Bush for all the liberal lies being told about him. It will make kerry's loss in nov. that much more fun.

We'll get 3 weeks at least of "how can everyone be so dumb?"
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CA law defines marriage as a union between a man and woman. Federal law does the same. The mayor of SF does not get to arbitarily redefine marriage.
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KRL thinks you do.
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Where was he when I got married and then got married again?
As a good Christian boy Bush believes in 'til death do us part' so he's soon to BAN divorce and no remarriage til your spouse dies.
Go Get 'em Dubya!
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Old 03-01-2004, 09:51 AM   #44
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KRL, do you lie to prove all of your points or just the ones where you hold the minority view?






the statement above appears to have no basis of truth when compared to the news article below:

SAN FRANCISCO - Mayor Gavin Newsom accused President Bush of political showmanship and discrimination because of the Social Security Administration's decision to not accept any marriage licenses from San Francisco ? gay or straight ? until the same-sex issue is resolved.

Newsom addressed a huge crowd at his first town hall meeting Saturday, 52 days after taking office and a little more than two weeks after he authorized city officials to grant marriage licenses to same-sex couples.

Such meetings typically draw a few dozen people, but nearly 1,000 gathered for Saturday's town hall in the Castro district, a predominantly gay and lesbian section of the city. Some in the crowd carried signs reading: "Thank You Mayor" and "Gavin ? Our Hero."

The Social Security Administration announced Friday it has told its offices nationwide not to accept marriage certificates from San Francisco as proof of identification for newlyweds looking to make name changes on Social Security cards.

Newsom called the move "political and retaliatory."

"The president is not only now discriminating against gay couples, he's discriminating against straight people," he said.

Newsom also said his administration looks forward to arguing the constitutionality of same-sex marriages before the California Supreme Court.

The high court on Friday declined a request by Attorney General Bill Lockyer to immediately shut down San Francisco's gay weddings. More than 3,400 such ceremonies have been performed since the city began issuing the licenses Feb. 12.

The justices told the city and a conservative group that opposes gay marriage to file new legal briefs by March 5 in response to the attorney general's petition. Earlier, lower-court judges also declined to immediately end the same-sex marriages.

"Not only did two lower court judges ... determine there is no irreparable harm being done, now the Supreme Court said the same thing," Newsom said.

Lie? About what? You think the SSA just arbitrarily decides to make a major policy decision without authorization from the White House?

Get a clue and don't call me a fucking liar ever again.

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Old 03-01-2004, 09:56 AM   #45
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Just another move that will help speed up the revolution.

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Old 03-01-2004, 10:18 AM   #46
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dude, don't confuse them with the facts. Let the lemmings hate Bush for all the liberal lies being told about him. It will make kerry's loss in nov. that much more fun.

We'll get 3 weeks at least of "how can everyone be so dumb?"
Dude you're so off base it's not even funny. People hate Bush because Bush is an ignorant jackass with no morals. This goes for Democrats as well as Republicans, as I know many who don't fall for his bullshit either.
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Old 03-01-2004, 10:39 AM   #47
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Lie? About what? You think the SSA just arbitrarily decides to make a major policy decision without authorization from the White House?
You are 100% right on that point. The SSA is bound by law to follow the "Defense of Marriage Act" authorized & signed into law by the Clinton White House.
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Old 03-01-2004, 10:49 AM   #48
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Just another move that will help speed up the revolution.

, they haven't revotled yet and they won't americans have no backbone...americans are getting assfucked with no lube and taking it..bush can and will do whateva he wants with NO repercussions..he's a dicator face the reality of the situation
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Old 03-01-2004, 10:55 AM   #49
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Lie? About what? You think the SSA just arbitrarily decides to make a major policy decision without authorization from the White House?

Get a clue and don't call me a fucking liar ever again.

If you don't want to be called a liar, I suggest you stop lying.
It's one thing to have an opinion about something, quite another to bolster it with lies.

Oh, and I'm sure in the "liberal hate Bush" mind you believe he micro manages everything that goes on but in reality, government agencies can follow the law without the president telling it to do so.
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Old 03-01-2004, 11:06 AM   #50
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