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|  02-26-2004, 09:33 AM | #1 | 
| I'm a great bowler. Industry Role:  Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Right Outside of Normal. 
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				In This Age of Broadband is There Any Money in Photo Only Sites?
			 Now that Broadband has gained popularity and dial-up is nearly extinct, is there still any interest in photo sites?  People like to see the action and watch movies vs. still shots, IMHO. I'm getting a lot of content together in order to launch a couple sites and was just curious if any folks out there have photo only sites as well as movie sites and what the average conversion difference is between the two? 
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|  02-26-2004, 09:34 AM | #2 | 
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				 | who told you dialup is extinct? | 
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|  02-26-2004, 09:35 AM | #3 | |
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|  02-26-2004, 09:36 AM | #4 | |
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|  02-26-2004, 09:36 AM | #5 | |
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|  02-26-2004, 09:37 AM | #6 | |
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 True it will dwindle down in the future but the internet is massive (like my cock) and a very good percentage are on dialup. We in the US are spoiled cause we have easy access to it but what about Abdul in pakistan? | |
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|  02-26-2004, 09:37 AM | #7 | 
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				 | Not for me bab!  It is video all the way.  | 
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|  02-26-2004, 09:39 AM | #8 | |
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|  02-26-2004, 09:40 AM | #9 | 
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				 | I think paysites who only offer photos must have: * 100% exlusive content * very high quality content as far as niches go i think picture only works for the softcore niches but def. not for hardcore i wouldnt open a paysite that offers no movies since they surely make people recurr longer hehe    | 
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|  02-26-2004, 09:42 AM | #10 | 
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				 | There will always be a place for pic only sites. I knwo of MANY paysites that have maybe 60 second of video total. the rest being gigs upon gigs of picture content. Not everyone likes movies. Personaly I HATE movies. Can a movie really capture that one fraction of a second where the girls poses so good you get a woody just remmebering it? Pics tend to be of higher quality than movies as well. Can you honnestly say that dvd quality 1600x1200 vids exist? Nope. | 
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|  02-26-2004, 09:43 AM | #11 | ||
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|  02-26-2004, 10:19 AM | #12 | |
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   I say yes, if the content is Niche, Unique and All Original ... Ivy | |
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|  02-26-2004, 10:19 AM | #13 | |
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 edit... WHOA....you like picture sites but you diss one of the best picture sites around? Metart on your tgp? 
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|  02-26-2004, 10:26 AM | #14 | |
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|  02-26-2004, 10:43 AM | #15 | 
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				 | We have about 15 video feeds that we license from third parties, but it's absolutely not a focus of our site.  Customer surveys show that video is the "main reason" for signing up for only about 5% of our paying customers.  "Picture content" is the main reason for about 70% of them. So yes, picture-only sites can definitely survive in the age of broadband. Use good pics and offer them in very high resolutions at high quality (in addition to standard 640x480, most of ours are available at 1024x768 @ 200kb, and many are 1536 x 1152 @ 400k). Cheers -b 
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|  02-26-2004, 10:46 AM | #16 | |
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 i bet its not a teen site and it has original content just like i said on those sites movies can be a little gimmick that keeps people even happier and recurring longer good it works for you  | |
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|  02-27-2004, 07:08 AM | #17 | |
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|  02-27-2004, 07:16 AM | #18 | 
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				 | If you got the right niche or exclusive content you can do quite well with only pictures. Dont forget member interaction to keep them interested and updates so there is always something new to check out. It's not like having tons of movies is a garaunteed winner either, think of a bad members area and no updates and see how long your members will retain. | 
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|  02-27-2004, 07:25 AM | #19 | 
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				 | Over the years we have been tracking what customers look at on our site Since we are 90% pictures only and videos became so popular in 99 we wanted to make sure we stay on track, it surprised us when we found out that customers view list Extreme Flashing Pictures and Party Girls Pictures - 1st Hardcore - 2nd Softcore/Fetishes - 3rd Live Cams - 4th Erotic Stories - 5th Videos are the least looked at. But than we have 90% all original content and started as a picture site way back.. that might have something to do with it  
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|  02-27-2004, 07:30 AM | #20 | 
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				 | If you can do really really high quality exclusive (niched) content there's always a market for pics (even bigger than movies) | 
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|  02-27-2004, 07:38 AM | #21 | 
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				 | I personally like pics, I am just not fond of looking at fat old bald men bangin chicks in full on video.  
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|  02-27-2004, 07:40 AM | #22 | |
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|  02-27-2004, 08:48 AM | #23 | 
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				 | Photos will always do well You have to remember - it's not what YOU like - it's what the customer's like. Most surfers are looking for their fantasy. What trips their trigger in their head. A picture that allows their imagination to add details will do that a lot faster than a movie that may deviate from exactly what it is that puts the fuzz on their ducky. 
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|  02-27-2004, 10:06 AM | #24 | 
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				 | im on dial up... it sucks   
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|  02-27-2004, 10:49 AM | #25 | 
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				 | my   : I think it would really depend on the content, for example could you get away with a site of just "Teen" photos, most likly not cause there are so many teen sites out right now that have alot more to offer. Also what would the membership cost be? do you expect to get 29.95 for just images? (now for what i am supposed to say lol) What dialup is not dead, wtf dude are ya stupid lol ok i feel better now 
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|  02-27-2004, 10:57 AM | #26 | 
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				 | I believe there will always be a market for the photo.   You can capture beauty in a still pose while a movie doesnt always do it justice. | 
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|  02-27-2004, 10:59 AM | #27 | 
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				 | well most download more video then pics | 
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|  02-27-2004, 11:02 AM | #28 | 
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				 | pic sites are only good if sign ups include vid's. | 
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|  02-27-2004, 11:03 AM | #29 | 
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|  01-07-2006, 05:19 PM | #30 | 
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|  01-07-2006, 05:29 PM | #31 | 
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				 | I prefer images to movies anyday. | 
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|  01-07-2006, 05:39 PM | #32 | |
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|  01-07-2006, 05:41 PM | #33 | |
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|  01-07-2006, 05:41 PM | #34 | 
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				 | US Broadband penetration stats. Nearing 65% as of December 2005 
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|  01-07-2006, 05:53 PM | #35 | 
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				 | The ones that think globally and provide pics, low bandwidth video clips along with the high bandwidth clips so that all types of surfers have good access to the porn will be the ones that survive long term and make the most money. | 
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|  01-07-2006, 06:10 PM | #36 | 
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				 | only about 30 % percent are on Broadband, I laugh all these people running to do hd video on line. Good example a guy canceled one of my sites, we always ask y trying to make our sites better. He said he was a windows 98 and couldnt play our windows media 9 files. We as nerds assume everyone is on the fastest best systems and they are not. My aunt is on a vaio thats 333 mhz and her daughter my cousin is on 700 mhz and they dont plan on upgrading. Alot of people see the computer as entertainment and wont spend alot on it . | 
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|  01-07-2006, 06:13 PM | #37 | 
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|  01-07-2006, 09:12 PM | #39 | |
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 On a serious note however, I wouldn't cater to the minority unless it's super niche where picture is about all they can find of it anyway. I don't know anyone who has dial up anymore  | |
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|  01-07-2006, 09:13 PM | #40 | |
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