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Old 03-01-2004, 05:51 AM   #1
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Gay men with twin girls (pic)



Doug Okun, second from right, and spouse Eric Ethington, right, attract the attention of another customer and the cashier as they hold 3-1/2 month old daughters Sophia Rose and Elizabeth Ruby, respectively, while shopping at 30th St. and Church St. Grocery in San Francisco Wednesday, Feb. 25, 2004. Before a civil servant pronounced them 'spouses for life' on Feb. 13, Okun, 38, and Ethington, 37, already considered themselves married, as the two men had been together eight years and had recently become fathers. (AP Photo/Jeff Chiu)

10 years ago ,,a single man would never be able to adopt a child.
Why is it now ok for 2 guys to adopt 2 babies?
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Old 03-01-2004, 05:52 AM   #2
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Old 03-01-2004, 05:57 AM   #3
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who,,,the tranny in the red jacket???
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Old 03-01-2004, 06:02 AM   #4
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[IMG]Why is it now ok for 2 guys to adopt 2 babies?
... why shouldn't it be ok, just because they fuck each other up the ass ??

... it's about time we don't judge people about the way they live their sex life.
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Old 03-01-2004, 06:06 AM   #5
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everyone needs to stop being so judgemental over others
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Old 03-01-2004, 06:08 AM   #6
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... why shouldn't it be ok, just because they fuck each other up the ass ??

... it's about time we don't judge people about the way they live their sex life.
I didn't ask nor implyed that.

The question was,,why is it ok now and not 10 years ago?
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Old 03-01-2004, 06:08 AM   #7
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Old 03-01-2004, 06:08 AM   #8
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It's great that same sex couples are now allowed to marry. They SHOULD NOT however be allowed to have children. The majority of these kids are going to be brought up in a life of misery and hell. Sure the parents are obviously caring and perhaps even more so than normal parents but the simple fact is these kids are not going to have a normal life.
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Old 03-01-2004, 06:10 AM   #9
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Am I the only one who expected the twin girls referred to in the topic to be adults, and naked?
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Old 03-01-2004, 06:15 AM   #10
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Am I the only one who expected the twin girls referred to in the topic to be adults, and naked?
Nope
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Old 03-01-2004, 06:22 AM   #11
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Am I the only one who expected the twin girls referred to in the topic to be adults, and naked?

and down and dirty... heheheh....
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Old 03-01-2004, 06:23 AM   #12
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The question was,,why is it ok now and not 10 years ago?
... because the world needed "quere eye" to understand.
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Old 03-01-2004, 06:24 AM   #13
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Imagine the ridicule a boy would get in school if he had two dads that were queer. That would be brutal, wouldn't wish it on anyone.
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Old 03-01-2004, 06:30 AM   #14
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... because the world needed "quere eye" to understand.
aaaaahh,,,now i understand,,,thanks!
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Old 03-01-2004, 06:38 AM   #15
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It's great that same sex couples are now allowed to marry. They SHOULD NOT however be allowed to have children. The majority of these kids are going to be brought up in a life of misery and hell. Sure the parents are obviously caring and perhaps even more so than normal parents but the simple fact is these kids are not going to have a normal life.
I tend to disagree that they won't have a 'normal life' - what is normal? How many of you had a 'normal life'? I worked for a gay man, who had a partner and they partnered up with a lesbian couple. One of the men and one of the women partnered up to have a child - they live in the same building - so seeing his parents full-time is not a problem. The boy is about 15 now, brought up in private schools - with dedicated parents, who both have partners that don't resent the 'other parent'. It's all a matter of love and respect and savoir vivre.

Kids will taunt them? Yes, so do the posters on GFY about everyone's heterosexual parents here - you learn to thicken your skin.

That's my view anyway - you don't have to agree. Who the hell are we to judge who should have children? I'd rather have gay couples having children than PEDs...that's for fucking sure!!!
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Old 03-01-2004, 07:07 AM   #16
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who,,,the tranny in the red jacket???
Looks more like Billy Jean King...
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Old 03-01-2004, 07:08 AM   #17
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Old 03-01-2004, 07:33 AM   #18
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I believe the courts are more interested in the kids go to a couple (Family) than a single person. As long as they have no criminal history involving kids - and have jobs $$$ to raise them - why not a gay couple?? In the courts eyes - they are the same as a str8 couple.
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Old 03-01-2004, 07:36 AM   #19
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I tend to disagree that they won't have a 'normal life' - what is normal? How many of you had a 'normal life'? I worked for a gay man, who had a partner and they partnered up with a lesbian couple. One of the men and one of the women partnered up to have a child - they live in the same building - so seeing his parents full-time is not a problem. The boy is about 15 now, brought up in private schools - with dedicated parents, who both have partners that don't resent the 'other parent'. It's all a matter of love and respect and savoir vivre.

Kids will taunt them? Yes, so do the posters on GFY about everyone's heterosexual parents here - you learn to thicken your skin.

That's my view anyway - you don't have to agree. Who the hell are we to judge who should have children? I'd rather have gay couples having children than PEDs...that's for fucking sure!!!
fair enough. i respect your opinion. i did say however in my post that of course as with most things there are exceptions to the rule and the case that you posted is obviously one that worked well. we are talking about children having same sex parents though which is a whole different scenario.
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Old 03-01-2004, 07:37 AM   #20
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the people saying that the kids wouldn't have a 'normal' life are the same dickheads who would make fun of them in school. give me a freakin' break people...live and let live, it's much easier.
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Old 03-01-2004, 09:15 AM   #21
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those children are gonna be scarred for life
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i get pissed off when i hear that ppl reject gay marriage, what the fuck, why care, let them do whatever the fuck they want and leave them alone, theres no need to protest outside the church where the wedding is going on, i hate when i see that on the TV
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It's wrong, i'm gay and I still think it's wrong
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Old 03-01-2004, 09:42 AM   #24
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I think its nice. Those children will probably grow up with two breadwinners in the family, that love each other. In my opinion thats way, way, better than a single mother on welfare. Sure, it may not be most ideal situation in the world, but its far better than many have. Kids may make fun of them in school, but if I remember correctly, kids make fun of everything in school. Also, by the time they are school age, it will probably be much more commonplace to see same sex couples and familes, therefore lowering the mock factor.
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Old 03-01-2004, 09:57 AM   #26
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lol, nope!

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Old 03-01-2004, 10:41 AM   #27
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it will probably be much more commonplace to see same sex couples and familes, therefore lowering the mock factor.
It's gotten to the point now where gays in many high schools can be out and even have an out of the closet boyfriend. That was not the case just 5 years ago. Such people would have been abused daily.
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