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Intrigue · 02-23-2004, 07:10 PM

Just curious, how many of you would prefer cheap labor from india, etc... or how many of you believe in 'You get what you pay for'?

BRISK · 02-23-2004, 07:15 PM

My workers in the Philipenes are amazing.

Intrigue · 02-23-2004, 07:22 PM

Good to hear, i don't have anything against the people that can work dirt cheap (other than people expecting me to work that cheaply) but alot of clients of mine have been burnt by them, and even with the exchange rates and everything, $4 - 7 bucks an hour for custom development seems cheap (although i'm not sure how much that is for they're cash). I can't possibly compete with that, i'd be better off flipping burgers at McDonalds, atleast then i'd get benefits.

Arousal Design · 02-23-2004, 07:24 PM

webmasterlabor.com cheap labor works for me

you do get what you pay for but, ... just because something's cheap doesnt mean its not quality and just because something's expensive doesnt mean it is quality.

Intrigue · 02-23-2004, 07:27 PM

Your right, expensive isn't always better, and cheap isn't always worse, but hypothetically, if you got a free copy of a script, would you go for the $250 script, or the $15 one? :P

EDIT: i also realise that by me charging more, i'm taking more responsibility, i feel obligated to make my clients money worth it, and if i were getting those rates (personally) i wouldn't put in any effort, and certainly wouldn't include any of the extras i do now.

$5 submissions · 02-23-2004, 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Arousal Design
webmasterlabor.com cheap labor works for me you do get what you pay for but, ... just because something's cheap doesnt mean its not quality and just because something's expensive doesnt mean it is quality.

Exactly. At webmasterlabor.com, we always shoot for High Quality at Lower Prices. See http://www.webmasterlabor.com/rates.html

Intrigue · 02-23-2004, 07:36 PM

I guess i should of worded the poll differantly. What's everyones thoughts on this.

Is there any money left in development, due to the high availability of $4 - 5/hr programmers, it seems like more and more people are outsourcing overseas. Don't get me wrong, i stay busy, but recently my workload has been dropping, especially bigger projects.

$5 submissions · 02-23-2004, 07:41 PM

There's a rating system at http://www.scriptlance.com

Sure, there's tons of foreign developers who can crank out a $500 script for $50 but not all quality is the same.

You can judge quality by the number of rankings a particular developer has at scriptlance

Quote:

Originally posted by Intrigue
I guess i should of worded the poll differantly. What's everyones thoughts on this.

Is there any money left in development, due to the high availability of $4 - 5/hr programmers, it seems like more and more people are outsourcing overseas. Don't get me wrong, i stay busy, but recently my workload has been dropping, especially bigger projects.

Intrigue · 02-23-2004, 07:44 PM

Yeah, i know scriptlance, everytime i bid on a job, i get underbid by someone claiming they can do it for $5 in 1 day (it's always the same person! lol) even if it's a large project, so i don't go there much, i primarly get my work from here, and webhostingtalk.com

feN · 02-23-2004, 07:44 PM

i didnt read the thread

axelcat · 02-23-2004, 07:45 PM

You get what you pay for

Mr. Marks · 02-24-2004, 01:43 PM

Most of us on this board are self-employed. That's why its a good idea to have a cheap labor source so your costs are lowered and your profits increase.

Dirtydee · 02-24-2004, 02:21 PM

You get what you pay for

Most definately!!!

johnbosh · 02-24-2004, 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by $5 submissions

Exactly. At webmasterlabor.com, we always shoot for High Quality at Lower Prices. See http://www.webmasterlabor.com/rates.html

On-top · 02-24-2004, 02:23 PM

You do get what you pay for. But over time, it's all going to start equalizing.

View Poll Results: When purchasing services, which fits you the best.
I look for people from india, etc... because they're insanely cheap!	7	58.33%
You get what you pay for...	4	33.33%
Pay? hahahaha	1	8.33%
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02-23-2004, 07:10 PM	#1
Intrigue Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Ohio, US Posts: 662	Cheap labor Just curious, how many of you would prefer cheap labor from india, etc... or how many of you believe in 'You get what you pay for'?

02-23-2004, 07:15 PM	#2
BRISK Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 12,240	My workers in the Philipenes are amazing. __________________ I post on GFY so that when people ask me what I do, I can tell them that I work with the mentally retarded.

02-23-2004, 07:24 PM	#4
Arousal Design Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Connecticut. Posts: 1,358	webmasterlabor.com cheap labor works for me you do get what you pay for but, ... just because something's cheap doesnt mean its not quality and just because something's expensive doesnt mean it is quality. __________________ Make Major Bank With Major Personality - NaughtyBank! Featuring NaughtyAllie and NaughtyJulie!

02-23-2004, 07:27 PM	#5
Intrigue Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Ohio, US Posts: 662	Your right, expensive isn't always better, and cheap isn't always worse, but hypothetically, if you got a free copy of a script, would you go for the $250 script, or the $15 one? :P EDIT: i also realise that by me charging more, i'm taking more responsibility, i feel obligated to make my clients money worth it, and if i were getting those rates (personally) i wouldn't put in any effort, and certainly wouldn't include any of the extras i do now. Last edited by Intrigue; 02-23-2004 at 07:30 PM..

02-23-2004, 07:22 PM	#3
Intrigue Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Ohio, US Posts: 662	Good to hear, i don't have anything against the people that can work dirt cheap (other than people expecting me to work that cheaply) but alot of clients of mine have been burnt by them, and even with the exchange rates and everything, $4 - 7 bucks an hour for custom development seems cheap (although i'm not sure how much that is for they're cash). I can't possibly compete with that, i'd be better off flipping burgers at McDonalds, atleast then i'd get benefits.

02-23-2004, 07:36 PM	#7
Intrigue Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Ohio, US Posts: 662	I guess i should of worded the poll differantly. What's everyones thoughts on this. Is there any money left in development, due to the high availability of $4 - 5/hr programmers, it seems like more and more people are outsourcing overseas. Don't get me wrong, i stay busy, but recently my workload has been dropping, especially bigger projects.

02-23-2004, 07:44 PM	#9
Intrigue Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Ohio, US Posts: 662	Yeah, i know scriptlance, everytime i bid on a job, i get underbid by someone claiming they can do it for $5 in 1 day (it's always the same person! lol) even if it's a large project, so i don't go there much, i primarly get my work from here, and webhostingtalk.com

02-23-2004, 07:44 PM	#10
feN Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: ger Posts: 2,547	i didnt read the thread __________________

02-23-2004, 07:45 PM	#11
axelcat Adult Locals Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: West Coast Posts: 25,450	You get what you pay for

02-24-2004, 01:43 PM	#12
Mr. Marks Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Wherever I want Posts: 7,517	Most of us on this board are self-employed. That's why its a good idea to have a cheap labor source so your costs are lowered and your profits increase.

02-24-2004, 02:21 PM	#13
Dirtydee Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 121	You get what you pay for Most definately!!! __________________

02-24-2004, 02:23 PM	#15
On-top Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: IN Posts: 2,283	You do get what you pay for. But over time, it's all going to start equalizing. __________________ Dynamic Hosting