Fletch.....Who the fuck is the assmonkey who is answering your ICQ? - Page 3 - GoFuckYourself.com

JFK · 02-19-2004, 12:42 PM

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m00d · 02-19-2004, 12:42 PM

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AaronM · 02-19-2004, 12:48 PM

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Originally posted by machinegunkelly
With the way this business has been lately , I gotta take fletches side on this for sure .

I answer useless quotes and emails all the time ,
waste alot of time on clients that are just " looking " but don't tell you that , everything is set in stone as they say and then you hear nothing , in fact . there is one character on this board that mustve hit me up 17 times to ask for a quote on the same damn site .. over and over again , we waste time with enough potential orders to book ourselves for years on end .

Ill be damned if I would be signing anything before payment was in hand .

Aaron , I think you're abit out of line here .
No matter how big you think you are , some of the biggest " personalities " on this board waste my time often enough to see where fletch and cherry are comming from .

No matter how big I think I am? WTF? I think I am a nobody in this industry. I have never seriously claimed to be anything more than that. Often when people ask me who I am or what I do I tell them I am a newbie. I have even had my name badge read "Newbie" at a number of shows. The fact that a large number of people on GFY tend to follow me or like me does not mean that I think I am anything special. Stop holding me responsible for the words and actions of others.

Now...About the people who waste your time...AGAIN...Why is Adult any different than mainstream? A potential customer is a potential customer is a potential customer. How many times have you gone to a store and talked to a sales rep then walked out without buying anything?

I deal with people every day who waste my time...It's part of doing business but I would NEVER tell them "Hey...Unless you place an order now, you are not worth my time." That's just fucked.

Head · 02-19-2004, 12:51 PM

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Originally posted by QuaShe
I don't see anything wrong Aaron, where did the attitude start?

ya

Naughty · 02-19-2004, 12:53 PM

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Originally posted by juicylinks
The only assmonkeys are Godaddy.com and I hope they rot in hell why getting assfucked by a rust infested dildo

ok

Naughty · 02-19-2004, 12:54 PM

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Yes...As in I sent that same message to 20 or so people

I thought I were special ..

Va2k · 02-19-2004, 12:57 PM

*shrugs* My momma always told me stupid is as stupid does..

Lol For real I try to treat everyone the way I would want to be treated you never know one day the mouth you shit in might be the one feeding you *shrugs*

TOM

InsaneMidget · 02-19-2004, 01:01 PM

I thought the first thing they teach you in business 101 was to not get personal. Guess everyone missed that class.

AaronM · 02-19-2004, 01:03 PM

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Originally posted by Naughty

I thought I were special ..

You are. There are 700+ people in my ICQ contact list. 20 or so were contacted.

AaronM · 02-19-2004, 01:04 PM

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Originally posted by InsaneMidget
I thought the first thing they teach you in business 101 was to not get personal. Guess everyone missed that class.

I was absent that day.

Naughty · 02-19-2004, 01:05 PM

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Originally posted by AaronM

You are. There are 700+ people in my ICQ contact list. 20 or so were contacted.

Bla!

Observing · 02-19-2004, 01:05 PM

I dont take sides, but if I did I know which side I would be on. (useless info #3455 of the day)

Naughty · 02-19-2004, 01:11 PM

By the way, I get a request to sign an NDA for almost every good, new idea.

mule · 02-19-2004, 01:19 PM

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Originally posted by AaronM
This tread was addressed to Fletch. Not all of the GFY idiots.

Sorry dude, your lines are crossed...this is http:/www.gofuckyourself.com, not fletch AT fletchxxx.com

AaronM · 02-19-2004, 01:25 PM

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Originally posted by mule

Sorry dude, your lines are crossed...this is http:/www.gofuckyourself.com, not fletch AT fletchxxx.com

I suppose you open and read your neighbors mail when it end up in your mailbox too.

Joesho · 02-19-2004, 01:25 PM

Maybe I will disclose some information about ...... ah nevermind I am leaving why should I give a fuck....

lurking · 02-19-2004, 01:26 PM

seriously though, what made you bring this situation to GFY? was there really a need for all this?

mule · 02-19-2004, 01:38 PM

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Originally posted by AaronM

I suppose you open and read your neighbors mail when it end up in your mailbox too.

GFY isn't my mailbox. Whatever you write here is gonna be read by everyone on GFY, no use bitching about it.

Donny · 02-19-2004, 01:41 PM

I am the top designer in the adult industry in the opinions of many. I am kept extremely busy because of that fact. So busy, in fact, that my girlfriend has to start answering my ICQ messages for me.

Someone contacts her and tells her he wants her to have me sign some papers.

But there's a catch...

20 other people will also be getting a shot at this contract.

I am highly fucking motivated now. I would love to take time out of my enormously busy schedule to sign papers and look over a deal that I have a 1:20 chance of landing (5% chance of getting the job, 95% chance of NOT getting the job).

Yep. I'm fucking motivated now.

And then the guy calls my girlfriend, whom I love more than anyone, an assmonkey on the largest message board in the industy.

I am VERY motivated now. I really want to be super nice to this person.

Aaron, I love ya. But in this case I'm shaking my head.

Herb Kornfield · 02-19-2004, 01:48 PM

This is why I use the phone for my corporate biz dealings. Instant messaging looses all the inflections, tone and emotions.

If it that important, pick up the phone and call. Thats how business gets done the fastest way. If you can take a plane cros country to see people, you can call them too.

AaronM · 02-19-2004, 01:58 PM

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Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
I am the top designer in the adult industry in the opinions of many. I am kept extremely busy because of that fact. So busy, in fact, that my girlfriend has to start answering my ICQ messages for me.

Someone contacts her and tells her he wants her to have me sign some papers.

But there's a catch...

20 other people will also be getting a shot at this contract.

I am highly fucking motivated now. I would love to take time out of my enormously busy schedule to sign papers and look over a deal that I have a 1:20 chance of landing (5% chance of getting the job, 95% chance of NOT getting the job).

Yep. I'm fucking motivated now.

And then the guy calls my girlfriend, whom I love more than anyone, an assmonkey on the largest message board in the industy.

I am VERY motivated now. I really want to be super nice to this person.

Aaron, I love ya. But in this case I'm shaking my head.

Once again...Somebody speaks when they don't know what the fuck they are talking about.

This is not a 1:20 thing. EVERYBODY that I contacted will be offered a peice of the action. I contacted people in all aspect of this industry as well as mainstream.

There was a 100% chance of doing this deal with me if he was interested. Just like all the others I contacted.

I'm glad that everybody seems to know what my intentions are and how things will work for others. NOT.

Then you all bitch at me because I want to protect my ideas. What a fucking joke.

Donny · 02-19-2004, 02:01 PM

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Originally posted by AaronM

Once again...Somebody speaks when they don't know what the fuck they are talking about.

This is not a 1:20 thing. EVERYBODY that I contacted will be offered a peice of the action. I contacted people in all aspect of this industry as well as mainstream.

There was a 100% chance of doing this deal with me if he was interested. Just like all the others I contacted.

I'm glad that everybody seems to know what my intentions are and how things will work for others. NOT.

Then you all bitch at me because I want to protect my ideas. What a fucking joke.

Based on what I read in those ICQ logs, I would have been mad at my girlfriend if she had reacted in any way other than how Fletch's girl acted.

Donny · 02-19-2004, 02:09 PM

I am bowing out of this thread now. Because I really like Aaron. A lot.

And I also like Fletch a lot.

So, I'll no longer post anything publicly. If I have anything to say on the matter, it's all ICQ from here on.

Aaron, you are "the man" in what you do. No doubt.

Likewise, Fletch is the absolute best at what HE does.

mule · 02-19-2004, 02:13 PM

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Originally posted by AaronM
Then you all bitch at me because I want to protect my ideas. What a fucking joke.

Maybe everyone's bitching about the way you're handling it now, not the way anyone handled it on ICQ. If I were Fletch I'd ask you to sign an NDA as well.

Donny · 02-19-2004, 02:15 PM

I lied. One last post:

When can I get some hot man love? Or at least some "AaronM Live" for Amateur Market?

SureFire · 02-19-2004, 02:26 PM

Don?t know what the big deal is in signing a confidentiality document (below is part of one that I signed yesterday to get a RFP). At least you know the company is serious and having a RFP is a lot easier to price out rather than having the client say: I want a website and how much is it going to cost.

On the other hand, if I didn?t want to sign it, I sure would not want to be called on an ?assmonkey? on a forum.

c) information which you can establish by competent proof was in your possession at the time of disclosure by us and was not acquired, directly or indirectly, from us; and

d) information which you receive from a third party, provided, however, that such information was not obtained by said third party, directly or indirectly, from us.

axelcat · 02-19-2004, 02:29 PM

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Originally posted by BVF
damn.... assmonkey.com is taken

Thats a good domain

Theo · 02-19-2004, 02:29 PM

Here's a friendly advice for Fletch:

Learn to your gf to be a bit more friendly when she responds to potential clients. I understand she is not a sales person, but since it has this role it will benefit your end. If her friendly attitude is not received from the other part she needs to make sure this will be achived. Today's pain in the ass webmaster can be next time your best one. Suddenly closing him the door won't make him knock it again.

[10:11] AaronM: I don't care who you are....Your attitude reflects on Fletch's business.
[10:12] Fletch: look, there is no attitude I am being honest

Aaron has a valid point here. You can be honest towards your client and respond in a way that won't reflect as negative response.

I bet you already know what I said and possible the fact that your gf replied changes everything, but.....would you like a sales person to handle with the exactly same way your business? Personally I wouldn't.

Here's a friendly advice for Aaron:

less beers

AaronM · 02-19-2004, 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
Here's a friendly advice for Fletch:

Learn to your gf to be a bit more friendly when she responds to potential clients. I understand she is not a sales person, but since it has this role it will benefit your end. If her friendly attitude is not received from the other part she needs to make sure this will be achived. Today's pain in the ass webmaster can be next time your best one. Suddenly closing him the door won't make him knock it again.

[10:11] AaronM: I don't care who you are....Your attitude reflects on Fletch's business.
[10:12] Fletch: look, there is no attitude I am being honest

Aaron has a valid point here. You can be honest towards your client and respond in a way that won't reflect as negative response.

I bet you already know what I said and possible the fact that your gf replied changes everything, but.....would you like a sales person to handle with the exactly same way your business? Personally I wouldn't.

Here's a friendly advice for Aaron:

less beers

If my assistant was my girlfriend then I would take her side as well. Personal relationships can make you blind to common business sense.

420 · 02-19-2004, 02:38 PM

Oh no, I'm missing the drama.

This already on page 3 and I just got here

Theo · 02-19-2004, 02:43 PM

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Originally posted by AaronM

If my assistant was my girlfriend then I would take her side as well. Personal relationships can make you blind to common business sense.

yeah that's what I tried to say. broken english. No doubt with a little experience she could become a great sales person. Women as I have said are much better on this than men. At least works when they talk to me

ColBigBalls · 02-19-2004, 02:44 PM

the whole log was fubar.. rather then say hi sign my NDA so we can do buss. Why not say hey i got this great new idea i hear you may be the one to work with.. but if we get something going i will need you to sign an NDA... that give him the choice

that and well your on icq. If i wanted to really conduct some work like that.. id pick up the phone

id just let it go.. he dosent want your bussnes.. but im sure someone elese out there will take it

dantheman · 02-19-2004, 02:46 PM

yeah a misunderstanding that was compounded my a thoughtless thread attacking someones employee and girlfriend.

But, drama rules GFY these days, maybe could be why folks are moving on when a business misunderstanding turns into silly drama.

*bowl*

stocktrader23 · 02-19-2004, 02:55 PM

If you are having trouble portraying how you really fell on ICQ.....

USE MORE EMOTICONS!

AaronM · 02-19-2004, 02:58 PM

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Originally posted by ColBigBalls
that and well your on icq. If i wanted to really conduct some work like that.. id pick up the phone

Great idea. How about if you pass me his phone number?

Ross · 02-19-2004, 03:05 PM

Fuck! Two people have a misunderstanding on GFY and everyone has something to say.

Jay3 · 02-19-2004, 03:06 PM

You can always count on GFY for all the little industry squables....lol this was very entertaining and all.....but I have to go now.

Thanks for the laugh everyone.

m00d · 02-19-2004, 03:09 PM

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Originally posted by Ross
Fuck! Two people have a misunderstanding on GFY and everyone has something to say.

No, they had a misunderstanding via ICQ. Aaronm made this thread on GFY to get attention.

lurking · 02-19-2004, 03:12 PM

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Originally posted by stocktrader23
If you are having trouble portraying how you really fell on ICQ.....

USE MORE EMOTICONS!

just switch to msn messenger.

StuartD · 02-19-2004, 03:20 PM

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Originally posted by Ross
Fuck! Two people have a misunderstanding on GFY and everyone has something to say.

Thanx for telling us what you had to say

AaronM · 02-19-2004, 03:23 PM

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Originally posted by m00d

No, they had a misunderstanding via ICQ. Aaronm made this thread on GFY to get attention.

You are a fucking idiot.

Have somebody contact me when you have accomplished anything in your life.....It does not even have to be industry related. For now, you are on my ignore list.

The few, the proud, the complete fucking idiots and trolls.

m00d · 02-19-2004, 03:28 PM

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Originally posted by AaronM

You are a fucking idiot.

Have somebody contact me when you have accomplished anything in your life.....It does not even have to be industry related. For now, you are on my ignore list.

The few, the proud, the complete fucking idiots and trolls.

there are only a few?

AaronM · 02-19-2004, 03:32 PM

This person is on your Ignore List. To view this post click [here]

I told you people he was an idiot. Who else would reply to somebody once they know they are on that person's ignore list?

mule · 02-19-2004, 03:33 PM

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Originally posted by AaronM
This person is on your Ignore List. To view this post click [here]

I told you people he was an idiot. Who else would reply to somebody once they know they are on that person's ignore list?

We all know you clicked on it

m00d · 02-19-2004, 03:34 PM

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Originally posted by AaronM
Who else would reply to somebody once they know they are on that person's ignore list?

Incurable SmartAsses

Trax · 02-19-2004, 03:41 PM

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4Pics · 02-19-2004, 03:49 PM

Aaronm for President!!

Mr Pheer · 02-19-2004, 04:07 PM

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Originally posted by Fletch XXX

As i said.

im not interested in working with anyone.

I dont want to hear his idea.

I have people hit me up all the time wanting to "partner" and "hit me with new ideas"

aaron m is the thiird this week hahah, he hit me up wanting to "talk about templates" and everyones got an idea on how i can "make more money with them"

as for noncompetes, me and my girl both signed them in 1997 when we started ;)

I hear these things day in and day out, and aside from that I AM NOT INTERESTED!

so why should she get me to sign a paper?

my girl knows exactly what I needed done in this situation.

If anyone has any need to contact me and do business thats fine, but I pick and CHOOSE who i do business with.

Have we ever done business Aaron? nope.

so dont start putting me in the category qwith your fake charachters and your board drama addiction ok?

you have no respect for me, as said you wouldnt be dancing on a board waving a Fletch Flag if that was true.

ill drop this now, nothing else needs to be said.

Glad I'm not the only person that this happens to.

People contact me quite often to discuss ideas and sign a NDA. Most of them time I dont bother because I already have plenty to work on. I'll just let them know that hey I'm really busy and cant devote my attention and time to this, you'd be better off asking someone else right now.

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02-19-2004, 01:41 PM	#119
Donny As you wish... Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 13,754	I am the top designer in the adult industry in the opinions of many. I am kept extremely busy because of that fact. So busy, in fact, that my girlfriend has to start answering my ICQ messages for me. Someone contacts her and tells her he wants her to have me sign some papers. But there's a catch... 20 other people will also be getting a shot at this contract. I am highly fucking motivated now. I would love to take time out of my enormously busy schedule to sign papers and look over a deal that I have a 1:20 chance of landing (5% chance of getting the job, 95% chance of NOT getting the job). Yep. I'm fucking motivated now. And then the guy calls my girlfriend, whom I love more than anyone, an assmonkey on the largest message board in the industy. I am VERY motivated now. I really want to be super nice to this person. Aaron, I love ya. But in this case I'm shaking my head.

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02-19-2004, 02:09 PM	#123
Donny As you wish... Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 13,754	I am bowing out of this thread now. Because I really like Aaron. A lot. And I also like Fletch a lot. So, I'll no longer post anything publicly. If I have anything to say on the matter, it's all ICQ from here on. Aaron, you are "the man" in what you do. No doubt. Likewise, Fletch is the absolute best at what HE does.

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Donny As you wish... Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 13,754	I lied. One last post: When can I get some hot man love? Or at least some "AaronM Live" for Amateur Market?

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SureFire Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: internet Posts: 4,398	Don?t know what the big deal is in signing a confidentiality document (below is part of one that I signed yesterday to get a RFP). At least you know the company is serious and having a RFP is a lot easier to price out rather than having the client say: I want a website and how much is it going to cost. On the other hand, if I didn?t want to sign it, I sure would not want to be called on an ?assmonkey? on a forum. c) information which you can establish by competent proof was in your possession at the time of disclosure by us and was not acquired, directly or indirectly, from us; and d) information which you receive from a third party, provided, however, that such information was not obtained by said third party, directly or indirectly, from us.

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Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	Here's a friendly advice for Fletch: Learn to your gf to be a bit more friendly when she responds to potential clients. I understand she is not a sales person, but since it has this role it will benefit your end. If her friendly attitude is not received from the other part she needs to make sure this will be achived. Today's pain in the ass webmaster can be next time your best one. Suddenly closing him the door won't make him knock it again. [10:11] AaronM: I don't care who you are....Your attitude reflects on Fletch's business. [10:12] Fletch: look, there is no attitude I am being honest Aaron has a valid point here. You can be honest towards your client and respond in a way that won't reflect as negative response. I bet you already know what I said and possible the fact that your gf replied changes everything, but.....would you like a sales person to handle with the exactly same way your business? Personally I wouldn't. Here's a friendly advice for Aaron: less beers

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ColBigBalls Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,733	the whole log was fubar.. rather then say hi sign my NDA so we can do buss. Why not say hey i got this great new idea i hear you may be the one to work with.. but if we get something going i will need you to sign an NDA... that give him the choice that and well your on icq. If i wanted to really conduct some work like that.. id pick up the phone id just let it go.. he dosent want your bussnes.. but im sure someone elese out there will take it Last edited by ColBigBalls; 02-19-2004 at 02:51 PM..

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dantheman OG Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 3,308	yeah a misunderstanding that was compounded my a thoughtless thread attacking someones employee and girlfriend. But, drama rules GFY these days, maybe could be why folks are moving on when a business misunderstanding turns into silly drama. bowl __________________ M3server.com VPS>Get your 2nd month free Ded>$100 off your 2nd month since 1996 icq-25135623 dannyh at~m3server DOT com

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