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Old 03-08-2005, 11:50 PM   #251
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Old 03-09-2005, 12:00 AM   #253
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Old 03-09-2005, 12:04 AM   #254
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Question???

After CCBill what would you say the most reliable processor is? I only use CCBill so if they go out of business I will be in a tight spot. So can anyone recommend another RELIABLE processor so that maybe I can cascade and have backup?

Thank you in advance!
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i don't know about that... it's something to keep an eye on, but i really don't see CCBill going anywhere. only time will tel though.
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Old 03-09-2005, 12:12 AM   #256
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I have no problem with bryan, i have known him for years and we are very tight
How ever tight you guys are he is a moron for bumping this thread.
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I think CCBill is one of the most reliable processors around. I hate people starting these kind of threads trying to spread some drama around the boards.
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Old 03-09-2005, 02:39 AM   #259
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Old 03-09-2005, 04:54 AM   #260
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How ever tight you guys are he is a moron for bumping this thread.
How is bumping this thread bad for ccbill? Everybody can see, all those claims were wrong. CCbill is rock solid!
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Old 03-09-2005, 06:00 AM   #261
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old thread bumps like this are plain silly .. somebody must have been bored
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Old 03-09-2005, 06:52 AM   #262
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ccbill sucks at EU traffic processing.

it are fact.
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Old 03-09-2005, 06:58 AM   #263
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I year old thread and ccbill is still processing
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Old 03-09-2005, 11:56 AM   #264
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I feel dumb for responding to the first post in a year old thread
At first, I felt kind of dumb...and I attributed that to being tired; but, in reality, I'm not so sure it's a bad thing...since CCBill is still here!
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when you scrub as hard as ccbill you don't go anywhere. Thumbsup for ccbill and an old bumped thread
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Old 03-09-2005, 12:09 PM   #266
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dude, will you chill out? it is obvious to everyone why he bumped it, look at the date of the thread and if you a calculation, it is just over a year of hoopers prediction

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We have been with CCBILL for 4 years and I have nothing but good to say about them. I have billed through ALL of the other major companies over the last 8 years and they have given me nothing but problems. CCBILL will be the last processor standing. I'll put money on that.

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Agree Tony!

As a third party processor CCBill have done exactly what they offer and have never failed yet.

The underlying problem, if any, may not be to do with CCBill specifically, but apply to all TTP's in that there is no security of funds.

I hate to even mention em now - but some proposal via iBill and, in their instance, alledgedly using a "third party escrow agent" and segpay.com does have some validity and is a step towards providing security of funds.
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Old 03-09-2005, 12:30 PM   #269
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their motto sometimes must be: "scrub til they bleed!"
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Old 03-09-2005, 12:35 PM   #270
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And where is Hooper now?
He's been banned for months.

And webby -- a third party escrow solution for a third party processor is not only bullshit, it's not needed. Either you trust your processor or you don't process with them imo.
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Hooper said we'd all see in a year.

Well, here it is a year later. iBill=gone. CCBill = strong.

Fuck you Hooper.
What this man i'm quoting said...
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I don't understand the bumping of this thread.

Maybe to prove that Hooper was wrong?
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Old 03-10-2005, 08:26 AM   #275
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After CCBill what would you say the most reliable processor is? I only use CCBill so if they go out of business I will be in a tight spot. So can anyone recommend another RELIABLE processor so that maybe I can cascade and have backup?

Thank you in advance!
Rebecca

If you want your own merchant account, you can use Netbilling. It costs alot however for adult accounts. http://www.netbilling.com

The other option is Verotel Pro (they are a third party billing company like CCBill, but based in the Netherlands). It costs $1500 for setup and I think the proccessing fee is 14% per transaction plus 10% hold back (in case of charge backs or fraud) - you get the 10% back 6 months later. Their site is http://www.verotel.com
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Hooper's got a point actually, because more and more sponsors are switching to their own merchant accounts so declining sales will make it hard for Epoch and CCBill to maintain required CB percentages.
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If you want your own merchant account, you can use Netbilling. It costs alot however for adult accounts. http://www.netbilling.com

The other option is Verotel Pro (they are a third party billing company like CCBill, but based in the Netherlands). It costs $1500 for setup and I think the proccessing fee is 14% per transaction plus 10% hold back (in case of charge backs or fraud) - you get the 10% back 6 months later. Their site is http://www.verotel.com
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Thanks for the props. CCbill is a great company and I'm sure they are not going anywhere.

Rebecca - Netbilling is also exrtremely strong as well and are setting up new merchant accounts for merchants daily. We will be glad to help with anyone looking for reliable processing. Please contact our sales department for a walkthrough of our incredible system and to have all of your questions answered.

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Hooper's got a point actually, because more and more sponsors are switching to their own merchant accounts so declining sales will make it hard for Epoch and CCBill to maintain required CB percentages.
Oh dear, they decline some sales to maintain the required CB percentages. Would there be any logic in the opposite?
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And webby -- a third party escrow solution for a third party processor is not only bullshit, it's not needed. Either you trust your processor or you don't process with them imo.
Not needed your fucking kidding right ? lol I know you make money from these people and i respect you but please dont be so transparent. If you want to open a casino you have to so much money in escrow to cover loses, why is it bullshit for a third party processor? Someone we trust with our money that could be here today gone tomorrow not to have funds in escrow?
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Technically he still has a chance to be right since nobody has gone under since that was posted.
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Technically he still has a chance to be right since nobody has gone under since that was posted.
where have you been when IBill stopped paying?

ok, they are still there - but they just die a slow, painfull dead instead of just disappearing
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And webby -- a third party escrow solution for a third party processor is not only bullshit, it's not needed. Either you trust your processor or you don't process with them imo.
Where does a business decision to use a TTP rely on trust?? Is that they way your business is run? On trust??? If so, it would be wise to not tell your Banker this.

Clients of any third party processor don't "know" them, nevermind have any basis on which to trust them. Do you trust banks because they run friendly ads on TV?

Even banks are covered by indemnities to a degree, yet you expect webmasters to just sign on a website page and, in effect, pass ownership of billing/rebilling to a TTP and just live hope of the TTP company paying them??

We have watched a number of TTP's hit the grave owing webmasters money. How long do you expect this track record to continue and be tolerated?

It takes little logic to see know that *any* third party processing company can come and go tomorrow - they may be on the top of the pack one day, - the only direction after that is downwards and just a matter of when.

Of course there is a need for security of funds within the TTP model. Whether this is an escrow solution, insurance or some other mechanism. A few TTP's, mainly within the EU have now already implemented measures to ensure client funds in the event of their demise.

It would be nice to see this issue addressed, and not avoided, by the majority of processors. This particularly applies to processors within the US where laws are clearly non-existant to protect clients of TPP's and similar companies acting in a financial capacity, (almost as bank agents) and having no security in place - it's too absurd.

After a number of "dead parrotts" in the third party processing biz, it becomes boring chasing them, writing off their debts and burying the carcasses.

Trust is not even on the table as a topic for discussion.
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Accusations without supporting facts is also known as.. BS.

Who cares if someone had some coke or pepsi or got drunk or got laid? Isn't that a little hypocritical to be saying such things, especially in this industry?

CCbill seems pretty reliable to me.
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Accusations without supporting facts is also known as.. BS.

Who cares if someone had some coke or pepsi or got drunk or got laid? Isn't that a little hypocritical to be saying such things, especially in this industry?

CCbill seems pretty reliable to me.
Not sure what your post is referring to DH, but if is in response to above - I'm not making accusations - just responding to kk on the lack of security of funds.

And yea... agree CCBill seems pretty reliable, tho that topics applies to them as well.
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