that sir is LIBEL

its irresponsible or wrong because you make the statement:
CCbill - Next Processor to go under.
its not a question, its a statement. One you can't back up. That makes it irresponsible.

Not sure what my own processing has to do with you making irresponsible statements but when you're ready to sell, give me a call and I'll show you how my 4 year old processing ended up for me.:Graucho

There's bad blood between you and CCbill and now that you're completely done with them your taking a parting shot. I get it, I just think it diminishes you.

I know some people at CCbill, like many of you do. I would really be surprised if CCBill would be the next billing company to shut down. I am 99% sure that that won?t happen within the next 12 months.

not when it's true. cant you read?

if i'm lying then let them sue me. they have the info they need to send a c&d.

hmm

... there is hope, solar billing just opened it's gates and yambo is doing stronger than ever (once they unban your IP, you know ... speak to max).

I don't know much about their inside operations but I call question to these three points you made hooper.

First anyone who knows me knows i won't even take a drag off a joint - but a believe a person's recrational drug use at a porn convention has little to do with their business ability, and I know many people in this biz that do recretional drugs on occosion that do very well and I don't fault them for it. (hopefully they don't fault me for eating all their snacks while they snort up)... I'm not saying they do or don't use, I'm saying it's irelevant. I can guarentee you there are people at the other processing companies that do recrational drugs. As long as it isn't a daily thing it probally not a problem.

I've met many ccbill people at porn conventions and they don't pretend for a second they are in any business other then porn. I'm not sure where that came from? Some of their people are more liberal than me....

Personally I don't see anything wrong with running a biz with emotion. Compassion is an emotion , ccbill has often gone above and beyond in that regard. There are often people who I will or won't do business with based on a gut feeling. It's just raw emotion and I often trust it on major business decisions.

I hope your wrong :rasta

there ARE worse tech support teams out there...BELIEVE ME.

I have been using ccbill since my sites started. And sending traffic to ccbill affiliate programs before that. I've never had any (major) problems. A few minor, sometimes irritating, problems. But never anything to do much complaining about.

I also spoke recently with an owner who's sites do more than $3,000,000 a month in sales. I asked him, "If you could only choose one processor, who would it be?"

His reply, "CCBill, of course. If they go under, we all go under."

True, dat!

hmm i think the maximum amount visa processors allow is 250k per month so you might have some miss guided information

Hooper has some inside info:


Verotel is next.. ccbill if they Loose.


Ibill - Epoch last ones standing...............


wait and see...............

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the big question is when will visa/master card go out of business?

adult industry is the biggest revenue streams for them so if they cut us off they will go down too :2 cents:

... damn, wasn't that me that predicted that almost a year ago ... march04 is coming !!

i know ccbill has the most stringent policies as far as allowing certain cross sells etc...i think someone else would go before them

you're dead wrong.

could be but i dont think so :2 cents:

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh ....


oh wait!

:1orglaugh

so i guess your the expert here?

right ?

Then it would be the one for the govt to go after first in their revived plans to clean up America?

Show us some figures because I think you're wrong

Heh... I find that Visa/Mastercard statement to be one of the funniest things I've heard all day :1orglaugh

aparently, compared to you.

I didn't mean to be rude, but that was a pretty rediculous statement, and I had a hard time keeping my ass in my chair.

I would move everything over to DMR

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where do you get this stuff?

I thought this was the best you could do...

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=238269 :1orglaugh

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

holy shit, I'm going to puke out my nose!

it would really suck if they went down.
i would venture a guess to say they own50-60% processing for adults?

ppl would be fucked.

but in any case..




The chinese character for crisis is the same for opportunity.

It's called Board Character University and he's pretty good at it. :1orglaugh He's just subtle/dry enough, that it makes it even funnier.

CCbill is anti-spam? Since when?

Visa's annual income is in the Trillions of dollars, adult combined with video and toys at best generates low billions, they'd hardly even notice us gone.

You think Verotel's gonna stick around?

Are you on fuckin' glue? Adult is a tiny % of what they do.

Not the way they are operating..........they will be the next Probilling

i worked for arlo. and he is a smart business man. i could only think of two reasons he would post this.

a) he knows something the rest of us dont.
b) he wanted to piss in thier cheerios.

id go with a.

people like lightspeed come in here spouting about what ccbill told him last week. just think about that for a second. no one is going to tell you the boat is sinking before it does. they will just keep on keeping on.

however, i personaly think epoch or ibill will be next to fall. epoch for thier lack enforcement on cross sales and non-disclosure, they were basically letting thier larger clients get away with shitloads of shady shit. and still are.

i dunno too much about iBill but i do know they have lost a lot of business over the last few years.

i think sms billing and other methods will be on the rise very rapidly. with the bush administration poised to do this business in, i forsee visa and MC cracking down on us harder and harder.

again, these are just MY thoughts and opinions.

:1orglaugh

I have bashed CCBill more then anyone else, and I have always been paid by them. So that is a non-issue.

Mike,

not to throw shit in the fire, but I gotta admit in yrs. past you have done your ball busting on ccbill...