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![]() Since end of Dec. 2003 I bought some traffic from several sources.
Traffic sources are sorted by an undisclosed "magic" quality figure calculated from all other figures. Do you believe this is a legit base for buying traffic in the future? Any comments? <IMG Src="http://www.calitera.com/gfy/trafficstats.gif"> Explanation: 1+ Clicks: Percentage of visitors clicking at least one of the links on my site 5+ Clicks: Percentage of visitors clicking at least five of the links on my site Different IPs: Best would be 100% different IPs N. American: Anything else than North American traffic does not convert for me. If possible I am always buying country filtered traffic.
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Fuck all that post how many sales you made off of each and how much you made per click or something like that.
Most of us already know that most traffic brokers sell shit skimmed reject traffic that they've already skimmed all the sales off of.
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2) I believe my figures show that there are huge differences in the value of some traffic. Apparently not all brokers sell shit. But some do.
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Jenny, How was the ROI? Got the google screw and will have to buy traffic to get things rolling again.
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Doesn't have to be sales figures. Was it worth it to you?
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That's interesting..
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So ultimately you can make a little money off anything if you know what you're getting ahead of time. Bookmarkers don't hurt, and boune the brokers traffic and fucking sell that shit yourself back to someone else. And be wary of converting good on a small order with a traffic broker so that you're suckered in for a big order only to get fucked.
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By the way: I am not saying Chinese traffic is bad. It's just bad for me.
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If it were'nt for customers, those companies would'nt run. Plus, it's your right to feel comfortable before spending your hard-earned money. ![]() |
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Ultimately it's all about how much per k and how much you made off of it and none of this other stuff. Try sending it all to the same site, same tour from each different broker and spending the exact same dollar amount with each one and find out which one makes you the most money.
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I'm currently working on documentation to add to the site to help new buyers maximize the traffic they buy. A lot of people think that when you purchase traffic, all you gotta do is wait for the money to roll in/trades to go up (whatever you're using the traffic for) - but there's much more to it than that. |
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Thanx a lot
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![]() most all traffic can be profitable. the best feature a broker can have(other than decent traffic) is good support. it's best to test a small amount then tweak your page to get the best bang for your buck. if it's not converting its good to be able to icq your broker so e can aprove your canges asap. it's your job to get te ctr up.
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To compair exit traffic from cj2 sites with target clicks from google addword, not seems fair to me. If you have made sales with any of the trafficbrokers traffic it allso seems most fair to show that. |
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Here is what I received from e-webtraffic.com: Quote:
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Thanks for posting this. Very good information. Maybe next time you can be persuaded to provide your ROI with each campaign
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Pretty interesting..
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How did you count Sexizty's hits? It says you're short almost 1500!
I buy semi-regularly from Carlos and have always received within 10 hits my amount. Were you made aware before tracking that Sexzity hits come from serveral servers named and IP based? |
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Nice to see that we are on the top of your list, jennycards!
A ROI number would be nice to see, but I can understand your reluctance to provide one. One thing that I caution all traffic buyers (and future buyers) of console (exit/popunder) traffic: In most cases, console traffic DOES NOT work when sent directly to a paysite tour. It needs to be scrubbed and filtered first. Console traffic will generate clickthrus, but it's up to you to "sell" it. If you want traffic directly to your paysite, I always recommend clicked (preferably niched) traffic. If you're just feeding your TGP/CJ/toplist trading site, by all means console traffic is a good option, and probably most cost effective. Our sites; FPCTraffic for console traffic FPCClicks for niche clicked traffic
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ICQ me lets make a deal 116894466 ![]() Need dating, cam, or tube traffic? I got it.http://http://www.chokertraffic.com The Original http://www.chokertraffic.com/ Premium country pop-unders from $1.50 per k. I challenge you to compare this traffic to any other brokers. http://www.chokertraffic.com/public/tabs.php?t=o |
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I completely agree with what funkmaster posted on another thread. It's close to impossible to turn profitability from traffic purchased by common traffic brokers. (ppcs, tgp spots/hits and banner spots dont apply on this rule) Maybe for feeding a site is can work, but again there are alternatives that will work better for your money. |
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You are missing www.cjtraffic.com on that list.
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I still dont thing jennycards can compair Google addword with cj2 exit traffic, but jennycards, dont want to reply on that. jennycards, did't buy US/CA traffic from Sexzity. |
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http://chickentraffic.com/cttsv2/web.../tabs2.php?tt= Click on the ratings and this is real reviews from buyers.
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You were STUPID to buy from hitsup.com... THAT'S AN AUTOSURFER!!
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Interesting...But..any good sales?
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I also provided raw figures, so feel free to make your own conslusions from it. Probably your conclusions will be different from mines. From sexzity I bought regular "10k unfilted traffic: $2.0 per k" as promoted on their website.
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- certain traffic is shit - certain traffic providers are morons This is a bargain, isn't it ![]()
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Can you show which stream actually resulted in sales and what the conversion ratio was?
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Maybe some people use it for trading tgp traffic...
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I used your listing to identify major players in this industry. Thank you very much for that. Unfortunately some traffic brokers do not accept paysites. I believe this is also the case with your traffic, isn't it?
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Actually we have surfers who buy on their first visit, surfers who use the site a long time and never pay ... and some who use it for free and after some time eventually purchase a membership. As my site doesn't fit in any of the usual categories I simply wanted to mayke my own conclusions.
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They do it for me.
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And, to all those "traffic broker haters" out there, despite what you may think, not *all* brokers are selling shit traffic that they cannot convert themselves. In fact, we keep between 40%-60% of our traffic for ourselves, and sell the rest to diversify our revenue streams. Our long-term buyers will tell you that they definitely make money from our traffic! Jennycards is providing a good service (as Choker is) to separate the good from the crap.
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This has got to be one of the most important posts on this board in a lonnnnnng time.
I don't know why I don't listen to myself sometimes but this post is highly reassuring. Years and years ago I learned one thing: Traffic is only as good as it's good for you. I've had big sites link to me and some traffic converted and some didn't. Yet my biggest discoveries were: Hunt your own targetd audience. You don't need 8 billion goo gob people who won't pony up for shit. You need a solid 1-5,000 who will. That's your foundation. But you'll only get that if you have something worth interest. Umpteen similar content sites ain't shit. It's a first-come-first-traffic scenario which is hit or miss at best. That's where site design comes in. I've seen sites with the same content but one is attractive and the other looked like it was put together by Uncle Fester on crack. So I stayed away from the traffic brokers until I could see that they had targeted niche specific traffic and that there was a reputable watchdog in the industry to maximize ROI. So I worked my traffic hunt with stealth. I don't do my site full time like many but I like to be precise. Fan base is the key. Thats' what separates the chaff from the wheat. Happy fans means loot in hands. So several weeks ago I started another traffic safari. Doing what I used to do and adding new twists like trading links for free art and original content. I did that years ago with Horny Hank and Blacks On Blondes. I really liked working with Hank and recently started up with him again because he's fun to work with and I actually ENJOY doing a free toon series for him. These tactics bring me traffic of interest. Add to that other targeted niche communications via the web I've found that 'control' means efficient ROI. Now if a site is starting out and you need to publicize perhaps a traffic broker is neato-nifty. Earlier this week I got listed on the Hun. It'll still take me days to figure out what happened where and what the conversion ratio is if any. I found quickly who your friends and enemies are once you do get listed by the Hun. It's an experience I'll never forget and am optimizing should he list me again one day. Bottom line I've found is traffic isn't always what it's cracked up to be, but the webmaster and his support and affiliates had better be. |
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