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So the point is vary hard to figure, but if i make a excel calulation, to see what a click on your site cost you this is the result: Name, 1 click, 5 click fcptraffic 0,001212 0,000808 Sex.com 0,045871 0,027385 Google 0,013824 0,009748 sexzity 0,003423 0,001589 adulttrafficsale 0,001391 0,000623 hits2biz 0,004603 0,002586 Trafficshop 0,014711 0,001918 Adulttrafficgenerator 0,017692 0,001538 Hitsup 0,007776 0,00736 E-webtraffic 0,001556 0,000376 |
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The people who ask the most questions are often small buyers . Big buyers know what they want. |
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Still it remains unclear why I am missing some 15% of the traffic I had bought from you while other brokers were much closer to what they were supposed to deliver.
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1. the site is to a half paysite, witch my traffic is useless on. I have NEVER anyones that my traffic convert on a paysite. If anybody have ask i have being ornest, nomatter that i did't make the sale. 2. To make a post to a where convertions is everything, it would have be most fair to tell how many signups it made on each broker. If any broker made 10 signups, i bet that broker would like that posted! 3. Any traffic sources has it forces and something it is useless for. Exit traffic to a paysite is useless. Google addword is very expensive to feed a tgp site. US target traffic is useless to a german dialer page. |
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google addword prod: 65.52% sexzity prod: 8.2% But if you look at the cost per click. addword cost: $0.013824 a click from sexzity cost $0,003423 You can't read that out of the list posted. |
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For example: Chinese traffic may be attractive for a chinese TGP while I consider it negative for my english language paysite.
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Yes
Here is the first... "N. American: Anything else than North American traffic does not convert for me. If possible I am always buying country filtered traffic." Why didnt you buy americans only? |
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Wow! Not only does this thread have solid data instead of the usual bs, there are cool ass sigs on here too!
Jennycards, I definitely wanna talk to you! ![]() I'm a professional cartoonist and I might have something for you. |
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I think that jennycards was believed they were buying "unfiltered" from everyone. At least, that's what they got from us.
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What you've done was a lot of work, and you put nice effort into it, however..
How can you compare Traffic sources to traffic brokers to autosurf traffic, and which ones of them did you buy US traffic from and which were world traffic or "other". Your results, although did take a lot of work, are basically worthless. You're comparing exit to popunder to clicked to autosurf, and I'm sorry, but this just doesn't fly. It makes no sence at all, and it's perfectly clear that you knew nothing about the differences in traffic before you started this. The hardest thing for me when working with a new person is to try to get them to understand that "traffic" is not "traffic". You have some good sources on there who are made to look like shit because you're comparing them to different traffic types. You are also reporting on the basis of USA traffic, when you bought USA traffic from some sources and not from others. Comparing apples to oranges doesn't work, and although I understand what you were trying to accomplish, ane the effort involved, again, your results are utterly worthless. ![]()
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You want to know what the saddest part of this is? People read the first post or two in a thread and form an opinion based on that.
Whether it's fact, fiction or bullshit, people read things and form a lasting opinion because of what someone posted. Sometimes it's inadvertant on the poster's part, and sometimes it's intentional. It causes damage that's unrepariable in many cases, and some poeple actually start threads for that purpose. Here's a nice little example, true or not, some people read the first post and it sticks. http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=232369
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Which makes any information useful and although cost per click is only part of the story, it is an important part. Unless someone is simply trying to pad his counter to con advertisers, ultimately he is buying clicks. It doesn't matter whether he is trying to sell something or build trades, if surfers don't click, nothing is going to happen. For sure, if I had a specific project of my own in mind, these numbers only give me a starting point. But at least now I have that. |
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Please note, jennycards, did't provide you with any infomation on what one click cost on her site. She did't tell you what convert or what did't She did't tell who she paid country traffic from and who she brought unfiltered from. So the 3 things there realy count, she did't tell you. And what i can read you thing to leave out information, is just okay to rate brokers on? |
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2) I though I had done everything to get U.S. traffic. If this is not the case (for Sexzity) I apologize for this. I promise to do better next time. Nevertheless: Even if I don't ask for a specific country, getting 99% chinese traffic is close to screwing. Or getting all traffic from only 2% different IP addresses? ![]()
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Nice stats! I'll keep it for further look! thank you!
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Thanks for posting that. I have really enjoyed reading this thread!
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O.K. ... I made my homework this morning and am posting some additional information about the traffic I had bought.
You can see now if the respective site is offering country filtered traffic, if I had opted for this type of traffic and how the traffic is advertised on their website. Hope that makes a few things clearer. <IMG Src="http://www.calitera.com/gfy/trafficstats3.gif">
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Interesting post
![]() Now, jennycards, your post as interesting as it is, is missing some points. One of them is that without ROI, there's no possible comparation, specially when you're mixing different types of traffic. On the other hand, traffic, as different as it can be, can be compared easily. Just take the amount of traffic you bought (no matter which kind), the CPM and the ROI and you've enough data to know what works better for you. You can add additional variables (we do) to measure different things, but this is not philosophy, it's pure maths: if I invest 60 bucks in Google traffic and get 150 in return and I invest 60 bucks in exit traffic and get 200, then things are more than clear. After all, I couldn't care less if the traffic has great CTR, or multiplies by 1000 or whatever. I just care about the relation between gain over investment. Simple as ABC, everything else is just blabbling, I don't buy traffic to say "traffic froma A is better than traffic from X". I buy it to make me money. As for my experience on this, I never bought to some of these names, and now I see this stats, I won't touch them even with a 10 feet pole, so your data is very useful for me on that aspect. But I bought a lot of traffic to some of these names and some that you don't mention, and I've very similar figures. Personally, I think Ravo's fpctraffic is the best, not counting Google and sex.com. Sexzity and AST are fine if you filter their traffic heavily and divert it to a pool of options (which of course I won't tell ![]() Anyway, all in all, very interesting post. ![]() And some last words of advice: there are some few good traffic sellers. But be very careful when you buy traffic, specially from unknown people, it's an activity where scamming and cheating is the common rule |
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And of course, I am very curious to learn which sellers you have good experiences with ... if you don't want to post them, email me on os(at)jennycards.com ![]()
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I know you can't deliver the signup ratio, becouse of the biller change, but hope you will show them the next time. |
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