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Front page or Dreamweaver?
I'm ready to dump this horrible IBM homepage builder, I have been using for 3 years.
![]() Which of the above two mentioned are better? Comment appreciated! Keep in mind I have limited HTML exp. Thanks!
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Dreamweaver.....
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Dreamweaver by FAR
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Dreamweaver kicks ass
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FP is cool but it adds a bunch of extra coding that isn't needed...
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Definitely DreamWeaver, use it everyday and it makes life so much easier!
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So I can do the design, and Dreamweaver will do the coding for me basically?
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Dreamweaver
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so do dreamweaver
notepad r0x
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Wow you already sold me.
Dreamweaver MX 2004 for $399.00 Off I go to download!
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1) Notepad
2) Dreamweaver 3) any ol' freeware tool ... x+1) FrontPage Hate that freakin' program... ![]() |
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Dreamweaver
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Dreamweaver hands down.
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notepad or dreamweaver
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Notepad?
As in type in everything yourself?? How on earth do you ever learn to do that!!
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Any other opinions on coffeecup??
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Textpad
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Frontpage
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real men use notepad
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yep dreamweaver or notepad, its the only way to go
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Frontpage is much cheaper but it adds a ton of crap into the pages that you dont want or need. The nice thing is that if you can use any microsoft product then you will have the basic layout of the program already... I think front page is like 150$
Dreamweaver is also nice.. Does not add as much shit... If you have 2k pro you can use interdev.. It is a kick ass program that microsoft come out with...But you need to know HTML for ALL of them!!! THERE IS NO WAY to get around it...
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go with dreamweaver
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Use neither. Notepad--good 8 years ago, still good now.
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Do you really need to ask? Dreamweaver of course!
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Now with more Jayne
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Dreamweaver! I can't stand to even look at front page but honestly textpad works the best
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Dreamweaver is pretty cool. However, you can use the latest version of Frontpage. It's not that bad as it used to be. Contact me if you would like to now more.
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That coffeecup software that the guy mentioned earlier isn't as powerful as dreamweaver! jDoG
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DW MX
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If you like working in code, HomeSite. Used to be a solo product - Now, it comes free with DreamWeaver (may still be able to get it standalone). It is like notepad on crack - You work in code, but it has litte shortcuts for repetative items, like font tags and tables. If you need WYSIWYG, use DreamWeaver.
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![]() Front Page has served me well for the last six years. I 'm to lazy to learn another product.
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GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!!
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Dreamweaver
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Dreamweaver MX
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Dreamweaver alot better program overall but FP is very easy to use but has alot of annoying glitches
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Dreamweaver's only like a thousand lightyears ahead of Front Page.
Front page sucks big time by adding crap to the code that makes the pages it creates imposible to work with other applications. It may also totally mess up your server config if you are not careful. |
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dreamweaver 2004 ROCKS.
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NotePad i have dreamweaver,but don't use it
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Personally I like vim.
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Frontpage won't add un-necessary code to your pages if you configure it properly.
If you just use it the way it is out of the box then yeah you're fucked. But if you uncheck the boxes for using div and span tags and check the box that says preserve existing html then it writes code just fine. There's really no substitute for learning html though. All editors have their limitations but there's nothing you can't do in raw html. Its the language your business is built on and it amazes me how many people in this biz (not just the newbs) have no idea how to write html.
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FP sucks and is for noobs that do not know how to use real HTML.
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Here this is the cheapest thing posted yet. $17
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...glance&s=books Notepad comes free with windows ![]()
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since you have limited html experience, i would go with frontpage. Its alot easier to use as a WYSIWYG. With dreamweaver you pretty much need to know the coding before you can make a website look right.
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Dreamweaver is so much better then Frontpage!!!
Of course the best way to create your website is using notepad, becuase you don't get all the extra html code like frontpage or dreamweaver putt's in your html. I always create my pages in dreamweaver just becuase i don't have to write all the html codes myself and then edit it with notepad to remove all the html codes you don't need.
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Dreamweaver MX 2004 or NoteTab Pro
http://www.macromedia.com/software/d...prod_dw_082403 http://www.notetab.com/ntp.php
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