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Old 02-01-2004, 02:07 PM   #1
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Hosting company question

How many dedicated servers would I need to run a 1,000,000 plus unique site smoothly?

Let's just say it's a tgp site with:
1 regular size graphics logo.
2-3 banners.
Everything else in text. 35k page size or so.
All links open in the same page so there would be a lot of reloads.
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Old 02-01-2004, 02:08 PM   #2
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Old 02-01-2004, 02:08 PM   #3
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How many dedicated servers would I need to run a 1,000,000 plus unique site smoothly?

Let's just say it's a tgp site with:
1 regular size graphics logo.
2-3 banners.
Everything else in text. 35k page size or so.
All links open in the same page so there would be a lot of reloads.
Have you looked into shared hosting plans?

A small virtual account should work fine for you.
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Old 02-01-2004, 02:10 PM   #4
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depends on how much you want to spend and how badass the server is. as long as they are static pages it really wont put that much of a beatdown on a server. but you could always do two servers and round robin dns for cheap load balancing solution.

but in reality 35k page size with that many hits wont do that much damage load wise.
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Old 02-01-2004, 02:12 PM   #5
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Old 02-01-2004, 02:14 PM   #6
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No I'm not looking for hosting. I'm just wondering what would be good solution for a site that size. I know shit about hosting.
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Old 02-01-2004, 02:15 PM   #7
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1 million in what time span?
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Old 02-01-2004, 02:16 PM   #8
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2 servers
Really? So I wouldn't be able to run a site smoothly with just one fast dedicated?
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Old 02-01-2004, 02:24 PM   #9
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1 million in what time span?
In a 24 hour period
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Old 02-01-2004, 02:25 PM   #10
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Old 02-01-2004, 02:27 PM   #11
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Really? So I wouldn't be able to run a site smoothly with just one fast dedicated?


yup here's a good starting config:

**MONTHLY SPECIAL**
? P4 1.8 G
? Unix or Windows OS
? 768 MB ECC RAM
? 80 GIG Storage
? 320 GB Transfer Per Mo.
? Web based Control Panel
? Full Server Administration


contact me when your ready to go we'll hook you up
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Old 02-01-2004, 02:31 PM   #12
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yup here's a good starting config:

**MONTHLY SPECIAL**
? P4 1.8 G
? Unix or Windows OS
? 768 MB ECC RAM
? 80 GIG Storage
? 320 GB Transfer Per Mo.
? Web based Control Panel
? Full Server Administration


contact me when your ready to go we'll hook you up
do your math he said 1 mln times 35k / 24day
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Old 02-01-2004, 02:36 PM   #13
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do your math he said 1 mln times 35k / 24day
oops my bad:

**MONTHLY SPECIAL**
? P4 1.8 G
? Unix or Windows OS
? 768 MB ECC RAM
? 80 GIG Storage
? Bandwidth (TBD)
? Web based Control Panel
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Old 02-01-2004, 02:39 PM   #14
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Really? So I wouldn't be able to run a site smoothly with just one fast dedicated?
Yes, should be possible - just make a cluster of 2 dedicated servers to keep it fast
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Old 02-01-2004, 02:40 PM   #15
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Old 02-01-2004, 02:45 PM   #16
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What are you running for scripts?
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Old 02-01-2004, 02:50 PM   #17
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To run a 1,000,000 uniques / day site you'd really want 2 - 3 servers

Config A:

WWW
MySQL

Config B:

WWW
MySQL 1
MySQL 2

All depends on how intensive your scripts are.

As far as running it on 1 machine? Nearly impossible you'd need like a dual 3.0GHZ + XEON with 2GB RAM, preferably 4GB RAM and even then things could get complicated and slow.
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Old 02-01-2004, 02:51 PM   #18
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What are you running for scripts?
Well there is a script but it generates the page in html and I would run the script only a 1-2 times a day.

Please once again. I'm not looking for hosting. I'm just curious about a hosting solution.
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Old 02-01-2004, 02:54 PM   #19
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To run a 1,000,000 uniques / day site you'd really want 2 - 3 servers

Config A:

WWW
MySQL

Config B:

WWW
MySQL 1
MySQL 2

All depends on how intensive your scripts are.

As far as running it on 1 machine? Nearly impossible you'd need like a dual 3.0GHZ + XEON with 2GB RAM, preferably 4GB RAM and even then things could get complicated and slow.
Thanks zagi for the input. So one dedicated with be good enough for a 500,000 unique site then?
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Old 02-01-2004, 02:57 PM   #20
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No needs to rent a server just for 1 site... Just get a virtual plan and pay only the bandwidth you use.
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Old 02-01-2004, 02:58 PM   #21
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Personally, I'd start out with one server with a decent config, grow into a multiple server solution when warranted, keep the overhead down. If the site is up and your already doing that much then that's a different story. In that case I'd recommend a loadbalanced multiple server solution. If your just starting out keep the overhead low, you can always upgrade your setup.

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Old 02-01-2004, 03:03 PM   #22
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you'll need your own server. you can't run that on a virtual. think people... a virtual is just an account on a server with like 30 other people your just going to crash or slow down the server fucking up everyone else sites. get a dedicated.
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Old 02-01-2004, 03:06 PM   #23
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you'll need your own server. you can't run that on a virtual. think people... a virtual is just an account on a server with like 30 other people your just going to crash or slow down the server fucking up everyone else sites. get a dedicated.
The people saying virtual were just being sarcastic.
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Old 02-01-2004, 03:07 PM   #24
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Thanks zagi for the input. So one dedicated with be good enough for a 500,000 unique site then?
Really depends on how intensive the script is, if its something popular like UCJ yeah should be able to handle it, also depends what else your going to offer them. 1 Server can push about 500,000 hits / day but it would need 2 things:

1. High performance hardware, RAM is very important
2. An optimized kernel + apache config

Can't stress how important these two factors are, if your interested hit up this guy on ICQ: 4930562 he can explain it in better detail.
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Old 02-01-2004, 03:08 PM   #25
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Personally, I'd start out with one server with a decent config, grow into a multiple server solution when warranted, keep the overhead down. If the site is up and your already doing that much then that's a different story. In that case I'd recommend a loadbalanced multiple server solution. If your just starting out keep the overhead low, you can always upgrade your setup.
Hey mike,

Yeah I understand that I would grow into multiple servers when needed. That is why I keep saying that I am not looking for hosting. I just wanted clarification on my needs in case my site grows to that size.
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