Voodoo

Serious... I downloaded like at least a few thousand of images from the newsgroups!

I don't know why you people pay for content... it's all FREE from the newsgroups!

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Voodoo

I haven't found those groups yet, but, I will let you know if I find some.

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It sure is, it sure is.

Herb Kornfield

how about drunken angry anti social loving republican midwestren alpha bi kappa midgets?

xenigo

That reminds me, I should start surfing the gay newsgroups more often and see if any of my shit is in there. I have a feeling it must be popular in the twink groups.

KraZ

WOW! How many keywords is this?

drunken angry anti social loving republican midwestren alpha bi kappa midgets...

I bet you could rank #1 on google for this EXCELLENT idea

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ounique

Hello

You are mistaken. Any photo taken is owned and is copyrighted by someone. This is why webmasters license content.

Just because someone steals a photo from a website and posts it to a newsgroup does not make it in the public domain and free for you to use on your websites.

That is like saying if someone steals your car and leaves it on the street then it is free for the next person to come along and take.

When we find people using our images without a license we pursue all legal remedies available to us....and it doesn't matter where they get the image.

I suggest you consult an attorney on this matter.

www.ounique.com

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myjah

well that just zapped the fun right out of it

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damn, i have tons of this, but it's not drunken...so i guess no beans for me

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latinasojourn

well sunshine, i hope you're kidding. but if you are not, think again.

this might have worked in the 90's.

but then Bill Clinton signed the "no-electronic theft" act.

so if you lift any of my content here's what i will do.

i won't bother sending you a cease and desist.

i will send a cease and desist to your host and e-commerce vendors, naming these entities as contributory infringers.

and they will pull the plug on your website(s) faster than you can say "look at all the free content i found".

psyko514

what are you talking about?
if it's in a newsgroup, it's public domain.

many successful paysites are run solely from newsgroup content.

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billywatson

what are you talking about?
if it's in a newsgroup, it's public domain.




yea, sure it is...so is all the music in the mp3 newsgroups...dude, what are you waiting for? DL it all and release your OWN CD's...


I'd watch the adult stuff, though...if your copyright infrigement doesn't get you in a shit load of trouble, your violation of 2257 will land your dumb ass in jail.

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latinasojourn

let me "splain" it to you then.

some content producers are professional.

they can actually prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that they own their images (many content "producers" cannot).

so i will give everyone here a brief tutorial on the way things work.

when you shoot content you produce a closeup of the model holding her ID next to her face so both are legible in a closeup photograph.

you can see in this photograph her signature, which will match the signature on the closeup of the model release, which you will also photograph.

you will also create for each photo session at each unique location a "long shot" showing the same model holding her ID but also including the environment (the room, set, etc.) to visually establish that she is present this day in this environment.

any time you change shooting enviroments you do this again.

the professional content producer does not go after Johnny Asswipe working out of his bedroom stealing images off usenet. you will not be going to jail and since you don't have a pot to piss in and no one will be coming after you for $ damages.

but if you use a hosting service or an e-commerce vendor you can find in the fine print of all of them throughout the world a link for "agent of copyright". educate yourself and look at it.

today, these are the Deep Pockets the professional content producer will lean on to pull the plug of your websites.

and believe me, your websites will go dark, and fast.

IF you are dealing with a professional content producer.

Oracle Porn

And some people really take it seriously....amazing.

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Some of you fuckers (ounique) need to lighten the fuck up (latinasojourn), relax, and drop the stick out of your ass.




Aaaandwatchthejokego ZOOOMMM..... right over their heads.

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I was just thinking the same thing.

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latinasojourn

obviously, many have never been challenged in a copyright issue:

read the fine print on every hosting service or e-commerce vendor you want.

i can't speak for other content providers, all i know is what i do when someone steals my stuff.

i don't deal with the thief, i deal with his vendor:

and i have shut down a few, and had my content removed from others.

it's called being a businessman.


but you can check ccbill, ibill, jettis, you name it. they do not want to be named as "contributory infringers" so they pull the plug on the offender.

"lighten up"? ask your host to lighten up.


here's the boilerplate from webair for example.

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Intellectual Property Policy and Procedures

Webair Internet Development, Inc. ("Webair") & all other entities or branches of Webair, processes all claims of copyright infringement in accordance with the Digital Millennium Copyright Act of 1998, 17 U.S.C. § 512 et. seq ( the "DMCA"). The DMCA addresses the rights and obligations of owners of copyrighted material who believe that their rights under U.S. copyright law have been infringed on the Internet, as well as the rights and obligations of Internet Service Providers on whose servers infringing material may reside.

If you believe that your work has been copied, adapted, reproduced, or exhibited on web site hosted by us in a way that constitutes copyright infringement, or that otherwise violates your intellectual property rights, you may provide written notice of the claimed infringing activity to our designated agent.

Your notice must include substantially the following information:


Your physical or electronic signature.

Identification of the copyrighted work claimed to have been infringed, or if multiple copyrighted works at a single online site are covered by a single notification, a representative list of such works at that site.

Identification of the material that is claimed to be infringing or to be the subject of infringing activity, and information reasonably sufficient to permit us to locate the material.

Your name, address, telephone number, and e-mail address.

A statement that you have a good faith belief that use of the material in the manner complained of is not authorized by the copyright owner, its agent, or the law.


A statement, under penalty of perjury, that the information in the notification is accurate and that you are the owner of an exclusive right that is allegedly infringed, or are authorized to act on the owner's behalf.

Designation of Agent to Receive Notification of Claimed Infringement to the designated agent to receive notification of claimed infringement is:

S. Christopher Winter, Esq.
Law Offices of S. Christopher Winter
9021 Melrose Avenue
Suite 201
West Hollywood, CA 90069
Tel: (310) 860-0113
Fax: (310)-860-0130
E-mail [email protected]

Please note that under federal law, if you knowingly make a material misrepresentation that online material is infringing, you may be subject to significant civil penalties including, but not necessarily limited to, monetary damages, court costs, and attorneys fees incurred by us, by any copyright owner, or by any copyright owner's licensee injured as a result of our relying upon your misrepresentation.

Notice and Takedown


Upon receipt of written notification provided in the manner required by 17 U.S.C. § 512, we will:


Remove or disable access to the material that is alleged to be infringing;

Forward the written notification to the alleged infringer ("Customer"); and

Take reasonable steps to promptly notify the Customer that we have removed or disabled access to the material.

J-Reel

I'm dying over here

Hey Voodoo... You just got called "sunshine"

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Dear dipshit.....




<font size=+4><b>IT WAS A JOKE</b></font>

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It she really taking her time and writing all that shit?
I don't even want to read that....

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latinasojourn

no prob.

perhaps it was a joke.

but content theft is not.

it costs real money to hire models and produce quality content.

and there is lots of theft.

my basic point is this. most content producers don't know HOW EASY it is to prevent their stuff from being stolen.

you do not need attorneys and lots of time.

you are dealing with DMCA and if you follow the proper channels you can get your material removed fast from other websites.

i know because i have done it.

and i actually do this for a living, and have been doing it for a living for a long time.

and you can call me a dipshit if you want. i am a dipshit that is probably in the top 2% of income earners partly because i pay attention to the details.

ModelPerfect

No shit. People took that post waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to literally. Where's the sense of humor?

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xxxoutsourcing

There is always one that gets DRAW in to threads like this...lol

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Ima go sumit some playboy pics to the hun now.

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latinasojourn

ok, it's a joke.

but because i didn't get the joke, perhaps people that think it's a good idea to steal content won't get the joke.

some years ago, a very properous new england based porn site was accused of stealing a prominent producer's content. this producer posted his sample images regularly in usenet.

i read interviews at the time that the guy boasted that his site took in about 40K/month. he was doing an interview with some mainstream news service.

it was a great domain name.

the site had great marketing.

but it was well-known the site was built in large part with usenet content.

the site was called:

hotsex.com

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Paul Markham

with Visa being dragged into court by Perfect 10 over copyright theft I do not think this is a joking matter.

Maybe those who joke about it will not think it so funny when their 3rd party or bank tell them to prove they own every image on the site.

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WWC

I agree with with Don ....be careful! Every picture and video is a property of someone's hard work and money spent!

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J-Reel

Theft of content is not a joke, but the thread starter is making a joke, so it is a joke. Get it? Hahahaha

Voodoo is funny Huh?

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hershie

I guess to some, the joke is equivalent to jokingly scream "fire" in a crowded theatre. The topic is just not something to laugh at when you have been screwed over so many times with content theft. Ha ha, wow, what a funny thread

Voodoo

Quick Question...

Where did you get a license for this pic, used on your "About Us/FAQ" page. I've been looking for a licensed copy of a pic of the Hollywood sign... or did you take the photo?

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Major stick up the ass issues

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