Some advise to new content providers - GoFuckYourself.com

Paul Markham · 01-29-2004, 03:44 AM

There has been a deluge of newbies trying to get some business by shooting the local girls and selling it as content. There are aslo one or two not so newbies who might like to read this.

I will make it short.

1) Get a decent camera and two studio flash lights with stands and umbrellas.

2) Before you get a model in learn how to use the equipment, try shooting a chair.

3) Get the lighting and color balnce correct.

4) Decide on the style you want to shoot. Try to choose something you know and like.

5) Buy a lot of magazines that feature this style and read until you can memeorise the pictures. (I say magazines rather than Internet sites because there are few crap magazines and many crap sites. Choose the wrong one to copy and you are screwed.)

6) Get a model in and practise until you are dropping to copy what is in the magazines. Get it right before you try to sell.

7) Learn the basic poses. There are about 25 of them, with variations of framing, angles, stripping off clothing, "pink", fingers, vibrators, etc. there is no excuse for shooting a set with less than 100 DIFFERENT pictures and more is very possible.

8) Learn how to treat a model, it's a balance between, being in charge, motivating, making her feel sexy and safe all at the same time. Your relationship with the model is what will come out in the image/video. If she thinks you are a loser dip shit who could not get laid in a brothel you get crap content. If she thinks you are cute and wants to fuck your brains out you get good content. The consumer wants to see a girl thinking "FUCK ME" not "FUCK OFF" or "WHEN CAN I GO HOME" Sticking a dick, dildo or what ever inside her is not enough. This is what is called "PORNO".

9) Calling your style "Amateur" is sometimes an insult to all the guys who shoot for pleasure. Amateurs do it for the fun and love, a lot of them are very very good.

Jusy a few notes to shooters. hope it helps. If anyone thinks he is doing this and looking for more sales, we are looking to buy.

Webmasters, when buying content think about what I said.

Merrioc · 01-29-2004, 03:48 AM

alot of those points work for videographers.... there this thing called white balance and focus and zzzzzzzzzooooooooooOOOOOMMMMMMMmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Paul Markham · 01-29-2004, 04:01 AM

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Originally posted by Merrioc

alot of those points work for videographers.... there this thing called white balance and focus and zzzzzzzzzooooooooooOOOOOMMMMMMMmmmmmmmmmmmmm

The first thing I was taught when learning how to shoot video was NEVER touch the video button, makes people sea sick, move in and out smoothly.

But this is for images shooters and videos, I come from a background of both.

Merrioc · 01-29-2004, 04:51 AM

I know but have you seen some of these guys?

I mean they set there zoom all the way out or all the way in then try to step, either the catch there lens in the shot (don't tell me it style unless your running hidden cam site) or they start with the zoom in whatever poistion the camera was in. I don't know maybe I shoot different I never had formal training by anyone I learned from watching others, but some of the bouncing I have seen is just pathetic...

yes we want to see her tits bounce... no we don't want to see her tits bounce cause your jerking off while holding the camera...

Baal · 01-29-2004, 05:09 AM

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Originally posted by charly
There has been a deluge of newbies trying to get some business by shooting the local girls and selling it as content. There are aslo one or two not so newbies who might like to read this.

I will make it short.

1) Get a decent camera and two studio flash lights with stands and umbrellas.

2) Before you get a model in learn how to use the equipment, try shooting a chair.

3) Get the lighting and color balnce correct.

4) Decide on the style you want to shoot. Try to choose something you know and like.

5) Buy a lot of magazines that feature this style and read until you can memeorise the pictures. (I say magazines rather than Internet sites because there are few crap magazines and many crap sites. Choose the wrong one to copy and you are screwed.)

6) Get a model in and practise until you are dropping to copy what is in the magazines. Get it right before you try to sell.

7) Learn the basic poses. There are about 25 of them, with variations of framing, angles, stripping off clothing, "pink", fingers, vibrators, etc. there is no excuse for shooting a set with less than 100 DIFFERENT pictures and more is very possible.

8) Learn how to treat a model, it's a balance between, being in charge, motivating, making her feel sexy and safe all at the same time. Your relationship with the model is what will come out in the image/video. If she thinks you are a loser dip shit who could not get laid in a brothel you get crap content. If she thinks you are cute and wants to fuck your brains out you get good content. The consumer wants to see a girl thinking "FUCK ME" not "FUCK OFF" or "WHEN CAN I GO HOME" Sticking a dick, dildo or what ever inside her is not enough. This is what is called "PORNO".

9) Calling your style "Amateur" is sometimes an insult to all the guys who shoot for pleasure. Amateurs do it for the fun and love, a lot of them are very very good.

Jusy a few notes to shooters. hope it helps. If anyone thinks he is doing this and looking for more sales, we are looking to buy.

Webmasters, when buying content think about what I said.

Good points entirely.

Move number 8 to number 3.5, and I'd agree completely, at least for my style

Rico · 01-29-2004, 05:10 AM

Straight up

Dawgy · 01-29-2004, 05:17 AM

good post.

post some specs on your lighting? links?

Shoehorn! · 01-29-2004, 05:19 AM

Thanks

Merrioc · 01-29-2004, 05:23 AM

take a photography class at the local JC

Paul Markham · 01-29-2004, 05:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Merrioc
I know but have you seen some of these guys?

I mean they set there zoom all the way out or all the way in then try to step, either the catch there lens in the shot (don't tell me it style unless your running hidden cam site) or they start with the zoom in whatever poistion the camera was in. I don't know maybe I shoot different I never had formal training by anyone I learned from watching others, but some of the bouncing I have seen is just pathetic...

yes we want to see her tits bounce... no we don't want to see her tits bounce cause your jerking off while holding the camera...

I know the guy behind the Ben Dover series very well. He uses the bouncing camera style to imitate amateurs, it makes me giddy to watch it.

But he is great at taking a hardened pro model and turning her into a bundle of fun amateur. It's his personality.

Paul Markham · 01-29-2004, 05:28 AM

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Originally posted by Dawgy
good post.

post some specs on your lighting? links?

We use MultiBlitz. I would recommend them or Elinchrome of the two makes I know.

As for lighting settings. It's essential you practise lots of different techniques, settings effects. One light will give you a different effect to 7.
At the moment I have one of my shooters in the studio with the new girl I'm training just mucking about with color setting, appeture and using different lights.

KraZ · 01-29-2004, 05:31 AM

For lighting [talking about video], I still go with the 4 point setup most of the time:

1x Silverdom XL for key
1x Umbrella for fill
1x DP for back[hair] light
1x DP/tota for bakground light

Once you're comfortable with the basic setup, you can experiment a bit. I suggest you read Ross Lowel's book "Matters of Light and Depth"...

At B&H you can get the 4-point setup for about $2000 [Arri/Lowel kits]. I'd throw in some more $ for 2 KinoFlos for that you can take on the road. They're light, easy to setup and work like magic.

Good Luck!

KraZ · 01-29-2004, 05:34 AM

Here's Helen with just the Silverdome and the umbrella. The background is a bit darker so the girl leaps forward.

Paul Markham · 01-29-2004, 06:45 AM

The photography and technical side is the easy part. That's why I get so pissed at people who can't even get that right, expect us to buy their crap and think I should be nice to them.

KraZ has the right idea, I use a slightly different set up and they both work.

The hard part of shooting porn is making a girl who turned up for the money, with no intentions of fucking you look like a girl who is dying to get screwed.

01-29-2004, 03:44 AM	#1
Paul Markham Too old to care Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws. Posts: 52,943	Some advise to new content providers There has been a deluge of newbies trying to get some business by shooting the local girls and selling it as content. There are aslo one or two not so newbies who might like to read this. I will make it short. 1) Get a decent camera and two studio flash lights with stands and umbrellas. 2) Before you get a model in learn how to use the equipment, try shooting a chair. 3) Get the lighting and color balnce correct. 4) Decide on the style you want to shoot. Try to choose something you know and like. 5) Buy a lot of magazines that feature this style and read until you can memeorise the pictures. (I say magazines rather than Internet sites because there are few crap magazines and many crap sites. Choose the wrong one to copy and you are screwed.) 6) Get a model in and practise until you are dropping to copy what is in the magazines. Get it right before you try to sell. 7) Learn the basic poses. There are about 25 of them, with variations of framing, angles, stripping off clothing, "pink", fingers, vibrators, etc. there is no excuse for shooting a set with less than 100 DIFFERENT pictures and more is very possible. 8) Learn how to treat a model, it's a balance between, being in charge, motivating, making her feel sexy and safe all at the same time. Your relationship with the model is what will come out in the image/video. If she thinks you are a loser dip shit who could not get laid in a brothel you get crap content. If she thinks you are cute and wants to fuck your brains out you get good content. The consumer wants to see a girl thinking "FUCK ME" not "FUCK OFF" or "WHEN CAN I GO HOME" Sticking a dick, dildo or what ever inside her is not enough. This is what is called "PORNO". 9) Calling your style "Amateur" is sometimes an insult to all the guys who shoot for pleasure. Amateurs do it for the fun and love, a lot of them are very very good. Jusy a few notes to shooters. hope it helps. If anyone thinks he is doing this and looking for more sales, we are looking to buy. Webmasters, when buying content think about what I said. __________________ Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500. PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70

01-29-2004, 05:10 AM	#6
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01-29-2004, 05:17 AM	#7
Dawgy Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 5,856	good post. post some specs on your lighting? links? __________________ the revolution is coming.

01-29-2004, 05:31 AM	#12
KraZ Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: ICQ:: 18822023 Posts: 2,636	For lighting [talking about video], I still go with the 4 point setup most of the time: 1x Silverdom XL for key 1x Umbrella for fill 1x DP for back[hair] light 1x DP/tota for bakground light Once you're comfortable with the basic setup, you can experiment a bit. I suggest you read Ross Lowel's book "Matters of Light and Depth"... At B&H you can get the 4-point setup for about $2000 [Arri/Lowel kits]. I'd throw in some more $ for 2 KinoFlos for that you can take on the road. They're light, easy to setup and work like magic. Good Luck! __________________ Selling MedicalPorn,com and a dozen other gyno & doctor domains here: http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=871984

01-29-2004, 05:34 AM	#13
KraZ Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: ICQ:: 18822023 Posts: 2,636	Here's Helen with just the Silverdome and the umbrella. The background is a bit darker so the girl leaps forward. __________________ Selling MedicalPorn,com and a dozen other gyno & doctor domains here: http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=871984

01-29-2004, 03:48 AM	#2
Merrioc Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 249	alot of those points work for videographers.... there this thing called white balance and focus and zzzzzzzzzooooooooooOOOOOMMMMMMMmmmmmmmmmmmmm

01-29-2004, 04:51 AM	#4
Merrioc Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 249	I know but have you seen some of these guys? I mean they set there zoom all the way out or all the way in then try to step, either the catch there lens in the shot (don't tell me it style unless your running hidden cam site) or they start with the zoom in whatever poistion the camera was in. I don't know maybe I shoot different I never had formal training by anyone I learned from watching others, but some of the bouncing I have seen is just pathetic... yes we want to see her tits bounce... no we don't want to see her tits bounce cause your jerking off while holding the camera...

01-29-2004, 05:19 AM	#8
Shoehorn! Die With Your Boots On Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Hawaii Posts: 22,872	Thanks

01-29-2004, 05:23 AM	#9
Merrioc Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 249	take a photography class at the local JC

01-29-2004, 06:45 AM	#14
Paul Markham Too old to care Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws. Posts: 52,943	The photography and technical side is the easy part. That's why I get so pissed at people who can't even get that right, expect us to buy their crap and think I should be nice to them. KraZ has the right idea, I use a slightly different set up and they both work. The hard part of shooting porn is making a girl who turned up for the money, with no intentions of fucking you look like a girl who is dying to get screwed. __________________ Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500. PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70