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Paul Markham 01-29-2004 03:44 AM

Some advise to new content providers
 
There has been a deluge of newbies trying to get some business by shooting the local girls and selling it as content. There are aslo one or two not so newbies who might like to read this.

I will make it short.

1) Get a decent camera and two studio flash lights with stands and umbrellas.

2) Before you get a model in learn how to use the equipment, try shooting a chair.

3) Get the lighting and color balnce correct.

4) Decide on the style you want to shoot. Try to choose something you know and like.

5) Buy a lot of magazines that feature this style and read until you can memeorise the pictures. (I say magazines rather than Internet sites because there are few crap magazines and many crap sites. Choose the wrong one to copy and you are screwed.)

6) Get a model in and practise until you are dropping to copy what is in the magazines. Get it right before you try to sell.

7) Learn the basic poses. There are about 25 of them, with variations of framing, angles, stripping off clothing, "pink", fingers, vibrators, etc. there is no excuse for shooting a set with less than 100 DIFFERENT pictures and more is very possible.

8) Learn how to treat a model, it's a balance between, being in charge, motivating, making her feel sexy and safe all at the same time. Your relationship with the model is what will come out in the image/video. If she thinks you are a loser dip shit who could not get laid in a brothel you get crap content. If she thinks you are cute and wants to fuck your brains out you get good content. The consumer wants to see a girl thinking "FUCK ME" not "FUCK OFF" or "WHEN CAN I GO HOME" Sticking a dick, dildo or what ever inside her is not enough. This is what is called "PORNO".

9) Calling your style "Amateur" is sometimes an insult to all the guys who shoot for pleasure. Amateurs do it for the fun and love, a lot of them are very very good.

Jusy a few notes to shooters. hope it helps. If anyone thinks he is doing this and looking for more sales, we are looking to buy.

Webmasters, when buying content think about what I said.

Merrioc 01-29-2004 03:48 AM

:thumbsup

alot of those points work for videographers.... there this thing called white balance and focus and zzzzzzzzzooooooooooOOOOOMMMMMMMmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Paul Markham 01-29-2004 04:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Merrioc
:thumbsup

alot of those points work for videographers.... there this thing called white balance and focus and zzzzzzzzzooooooooooOOOOOMMMMMMMmmmmmmmmmmmmm

The first thing I was taught when learning how to shoot video was NEVER touch the video button, makes people sea sick, move in and out smoothly.

But this is for images shooters and videos, I come from a background of both.

Merrioc 01-29-2004 04:51 AM

I know but have you seen some of these guys?

I mean they set there zoom all the way out or all the way in then try to step, either the catch there lens in the shot (don't tell me it style unless your running hidden cam site) or they start with the zoom in whatever poistion the camera was in. I don't know maybe I shoot different I never had formal training by anyone I learned from watching others, but some of the bouncing I have seen is just pathetic...

yes we want to see her tits bounce... no we don't want to see her tits bounce cause your jerking off while holding the camera...

Baal 01-29-2004 05:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by charly
There has been a deluge of newbies trying to get some business by shooting the local girls and selling it as content. There are aslo one or two not so newbies who might like to read this.

I will make it short.

1) Get a decent camera and two studio flash lights with stands and umbrellas.

2) Before you get a model in learn how to use the equipment, try shooting a chair.

3) Get the lighting and color balnce correct.

4) Decide on the style you want to shoot. Try to choose something you know and like.

5) Buy a lot of magazines that feature this style and read until you can memeorise the pictures. (I say magazines rather than Internet sites because there are few crap magazines and many crap sites. Choose the wrong one to copy and you are screwed.)

6) Get a model in and practise until you are dropping to copy what is in the magazines. Get it right before you try to sell.

7) Learn the basic poses. There are about 25 of them, with variations of framing, angles, stripping off clothing, "pink", fingers, vibrators, etc. there is no excuse for shooting a set with less than 100 DIFFERENT pictures and more is very possible.

8) Learn how to treat a model, it's a balance between, being in charge, motivating, making her feel sexy and safe all at the same time. Your relationship with the model is what will come out in the image/video. If she thinks you are a loser dip shit who could not get laid in a brothel you get crap content. If she thinks you are cute and wants to fuck your brains out you get good content. The consumer wants to see a girl thinking "FUCK ME" not "FUCK OFF" or "WHEN CAN I GO HOME" Sticking a dick, dildo or what ever inside her is not enough. This is what is called "PORNO".

9) Calling your style "Amateur" is sometimes an insult to all the guys who shoot for pleasure. Amateurs do it for the fun and love, a lot of them are very very good.

Jusy a few notes to shooters. hope it helps. If anyone thinks he is doing this and looking for more sales, we are looking to buy.

Webmasters, when buying content think about what I said.

Good points entirely.

Move number 8 to number 3.5, and I'd agree completely, at least for my style :thumbsup

Rico 01-29-2004 05:10 AM

Straight up :thumbsup

Dawgy 01-29-2004 05:17 AM

good post.

post some specs on your lighting? links?

Shoehorn! 01-29-2004 05:19 AM

Thanks :thumbsup

Merrioc 01-29-2004 05:23 AM

take a photography class at the local JC

Paul Markham 01-29-2004 05:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Merrioc
I know but have you seen some of these guys?

I mean they set there zoom all the way out or all the way in then try to step, either the catch there lens in the shot (don't tell me it style unless your running hidden cam site) or they start with the zoom in whatever poistion the camera was in. I don't know maybe I shoot different I never had formal training by anyone I learned from watching others, but some of the bouncing I have seen is just pathetic...

yes we want to see her tits bounce... no we don't want to see her tits bounce cause your jerking off while holding the camera...

I know the guy behind the Ben Dover series very well. He uses the bouncing camera style to imitate amateurs, it makes me giddy to watch it.

But he is great at taking a hardened pro model and turning her into a bundle of fun amateur. It's his personality.

Paul Markham 01-29-2004 05:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dawgy
good post.

post some specs on your lighting? links?

We use MultiBlitz. I would recommend them or Elinchrome of the two makes I know.

As for lighting settings. It's essential you practise lots of different techniques, settings effects. One light will give you a different effect to 7.
At the moment I have one of my shooters in the studio with the new girl I'm training just mucking about with color setting, appeture and using different lights.

KraZ 01-29-2004 05:31 AM

For lighting [talking about video], I still go with the 4 point setup most of the time:

1x Silverdom XL for key
1x Umbrella for fill
1x DP for back[hair] light
1x DP/tota for bakground light

Once you're comfortable with the basic setup, you can experiment a bit. I suggest you read Ross Lowel's book "Matters of Light and Depth"...

At B&H you can get the 4-point setup for about $2000 [Arri/Lowel kits]. I'd throw in some more $ for 2 KinoFlos for that you can take on the road. They're light, easy to setup and work like magic.

Good Luck!

KraZ 01-29-2004 05:34 AM

Here's Helen with just the Silverdome and the umbrella. The background is a bit darker so the girl leaps forward.

http://www.nichefetish.com/samples/SDSC06906.jpg

Paul Markham 01-29-2004 06:45 AM

The photography and technical side is the easy part. That's why I get so pissed at people who can't even get that right, expect us to buy their crap and think I should be nice to them.

KraZ has the right idea, I use a slightly different set up and they both work.

The hard part of shooting porn is making a girl who turned up for the money, with no intentions of fucking you look like a girl who is dying to get screwed.


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