Exclusive content: what do you think about this idea? - GoFuckYourself.com

harvey · 01-28-2004, 04:43 PM

We're looking to launch a new idea: an exclusive content pre-paid service, same as pre-paid medicine or prepaid legal services.
Well, the idea would be to give access to members to this service to discounts up to 50% over our already ultra-low prices. How? Well, that's where organization comes and I won't say a word on this.
So, with a $1000 fee you could get a max of 5 b/g hardcore or bj sets, or 8 solo sets. Pics or video, or half that amount but both pics and videos. But then, if you need more than that at that incredible price, you're entitled to an additional 20% on that content OR any other kind of content (with 20% off our regular prices). On top of that, we're thinking on even more advantages, which leads me to ask for some feedback on this:

1) would you join a service like this?
2) what would you like to see offered besides exclusive content?
3) would you prefer this low price (1000), an even lower one (thus less content and less discount) or a higher price to let this service available for only a few persons?
4) what do you see as pros and cons (if any)?

harvey · 01-28-2004, 05:12 PM

hudson · 01-28-2004, 05:18 PM

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Originally posted by harvey
bump

yo harv...post some pics...geez!!

Anna_O · 01-28-2004, 05:18 PM

BUMPING this for you

finlo · 01-28-2004, 05:20 PM

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Originally posted by hudson

yo harv...post some pics...geez!!

agreed

RRACY · 01-28-2004, 05:23 PM

How many licenses will you sell? I can't see how you could make a profit off only getting 1k for that amount of content

harvey · 01-28-2004, 05:53 PM

you can see some samples at http://www.onlyex.com

As for licenses... I said exclusive, that means 1 (one) license. How I do my profit is my problem, but I get advantage of a concatenation of variables. Anyway, all my customers know that I always deliver full IDs, contracts and everything as if my customer has shot the content. What they do with it, I couldn't care less, I don't even get a record unless there's an specific request to do it (of course I've backup of IDs and such, but not the contracts since I deliver'em, and models won't sign 2 of a kind for a single set, they're not stupid)

Carrie · 01-28-2004, 05:56 PM

Mikey (219content) was doing this years ago with his old content company that turned into FocusAdult. PheonixContent I think it was?

hudson · 01-28-2004, 05:57 PM

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Originally posted by harvey
you can see some samples at http://www.onlyex.com

yikes!! shemales

hudson · 01-28-2004, 05:58 PM

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Originally posted by hudson

yikes!! shemales

hmmm...now lesbian shemales...I didn't even know...hehe

harvey · 01-28-2004, 05:59 PM

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Originally posted by Carrie
Mikey (219content) was doing this years ago with his old content company that turned into FocusAdult. PheonixContent I think it was?

don't remember that. I bought several times from PhoenixContent, never seen that, but it's possible

alan-l · 01-28-2004, 06:47 PM

Harv, you know I consider you one of the top guys to make biz with, but I think you've to make some adjustments in this idea. For one, I'd make the content a little more expensive for a start, then go down that 20%. Not because I want to pay more, but because I don't want all newbies jump on something like this and get a saturated market. I told you this before, telling it again, will tell it always: don't go too low, make'em pay for your work. Just let's chat on ICQ, I've a couple suggestions you may find useful and don't want to tell them in public

For the record, whatever Harvey decides to do with this, he's the most honest and hard working person I ever met and his stuff rocks even compared to top content producers, just check his site, he even adquired technical expertises no content shooter has such as UW filming

KCat · 01-28-2004, 06:49 PM

Your post isn't clear to me. Are you offering $1000 for 5 exclusive video scenes every month? Locked into a 3 or 6 month contract or something like that?

harvey · 01-28-2004, 08:49 PM

thanx Alan

contacting you now

KCat: more or less, still defining the details and getting some feedback and ideas on it, but yes, you could said that in it smost basic form

Paul Markham · 01-28-2004, 11:42 PM

We are looking to buy in content to resell so hit me on ICQ.

Your idea could shoot you in the foot. The problem with "Specials" is that your existing clients buy them and they would have bought anyway. So with a little bit of new business coming in you actually lose money.

I may go to affering one of our "Specials" only to those who registered within the last seven days. Everyone on the list has been spammed and told about them so if they did not buy that is there fault.

And the new guy gets an incentive to buy and see how our content and service works.

harvey · 01-29-2004, 12:44 AM

hey Charly, I'll contact you tomorrow since I'm falling asleep now, it's 5 AM for me

Argoz · 01-29-2004, 01:06 AM

bump for the idea!

KraZ · 01-29-2004, 02:45 AM

Hey Harv,

Contact me via ICQ (18822023) - I could help you with the production and the profit margin

Alan is right though - you might want to start a bit higher...

A few models that I manage:

pornkitten · 01-29-2004, 02:48 AM

I want to see proof that you have real twin content and we will buy it

Brujah · 01-29-2004, 02:50 AM

hey charly answer your icq

Shoehorn! · 01-29-2004, 02:56 AM

koko · 01-29-2004, 11:41 PM

what about doing 2-3 times that amount of content only as semi exclusive? Just an idea

harvey · 01-30-2004, 12:31 PM

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Originally posted by koko
what about doing 2-3 times that amount of content only as semi exclusive? Just an idea

It's possible, will think about it, thanx

btw, not even one answered my questions

amacontent · 01-30-2004, 01:00 PM

Charly , hit me up to buy content with resale rights

Catalinas · 01-30-2004, 02:16 PM

When Phoenix did it, it wasn't exlusive. For exclusive, that's a really great price, but how custom can you get? I would not buy a facial scene for example. Unless it's something we need, we can't use it. Anyhow, I think it's a viable idea, just gotta be very specific. And one thing I hate is when I buy from a content place and 2 weeks later they sell all their stuff for half what I paid for a few of their sets. So, I'd recommend you keep the pricing consistent and don't do special deals when you're hard up for cash. I think that shows little respect for the people who bought them from you at full price. Rambling now..

Catalina

harvey · 01-31-2004, 04:09 PM

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Originally posted by Catalinas
When Phoenix did it, it wasn't exlusive. For exclusive, that's a really great price, but how custom can you get? I would not buy a facial scene for example. Unless it's something we need, we can't use it. Anyhow, I think it's a viable idea, just gotta be very specific. And one thing I hate is when I buy from a content place and 2 weeks later they sell all their stuff for half what I paid for a few of their sets. So, I'd recommend you keep the pricing consistent and don't do special deals when you're hard up for cash. I think that shows little respect for the people who bought them from you at full price. Rambling now..

Catalina

Catalina, I don't think you're understanding the concept of custom content. Custom is that you ask for something you need, then it's made following your specs. As for prices, that's kinda a ballpark, just an idea for now, maybe we won't even do it. And for selling content later... as stated above, we don't keep anything, not even the miniDV, so how would we sell the content later? We work a little different to other content providers since the beginning, that means: only exclusive custom content shot as if the customer is the one shooting the content. Once the content is made, we deliver everything and it's like we never even made the content. There are even content providers who buys our content, I know their profit is way higher than ours, but I couldn't care less, I mind my own biz

Anyway, Catalina, feel free to contact us if you need more info on how we work or check our site at http://www.onlyex.com for our current prices, you'll see they're not very far of these new prices

01-28-2004, 04:43 PM	#1
harvey Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: 127.0.0.1 Posts: 9,266	Exclusive content: what do you think about this idea? We're looking to launch a new idea: an exclusive content pre-paid service, same as pre-paid medicine or prepaid legal services. Well, the idea would be to give access to members to this service to discounts up to 50% over our already ultra-low prices. How? Well, that's where organization comes and I won't say a word on this. So, with a $1000 fee you could get a max of 5 b/g hardcore or bj sets, or 8 solo sets. Pics or video, or half that amount but both pics and videos. But then, if you need more than that at that incredible price, you're entitled to an additional 20% on that content OR any other kind of content (with 20% off our regular prices). On top of that, we're thinking on even more advantages, which leads me to ask for some feedback on this: 1) would you join a service like this? 2) what would you like to see offered besides exclusive content? 3) would you prefer this low price (1000), an even lower one (thus less content and less discount) or a higher price to let this service available for only a few persons? 4) what do you see as pros and cons (if any)? __________________ This post is endorsed by CIA, KGB, MI6, the Mafia, Illuminati, Kim Jong Il, Worldwide Ninjas Association, Klingon Empire and lolcats. Don't mess around with it, just accept it and embrace the truth

01-28-2004, 05:12 PM	#2
harvey Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: 127.0.0.1 Posts: 9,266	bump __________________ This post is endorsed by CIA, KGB, MI6, the Mafia, Illuminati, Kim Jong Il, Worldwide Ninjas Association, Klingon Empire and lolcats. Don't mess around with it, just accept it and embrace the truth

01-28-2004, 05:18 PM	#4
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01-28-2004, 05:53 PM	#7
harvey Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: 127.0.0.1 Posts: 9,266	you can see some samples at http://www.onlyex.com As for licenses... I said exclusive, that means 1 (one) license. How I do my profit is my problem, but I get advantage of a concatenation of variables. Anyway, all my customers know that I always deliver full IDs, contracts and everything as if my customer has shot the content. What they do with it, I couldn't care less, I don't even get a record unless there's an specific request to do it (of course I've backup of IDs and such, but not the contracts since I deliver'em, and models won't sign 2 of a kind for a single set, they're not stupid) __________________ This post is endorsed by CIA, KGB, MI6, the Mafia, Illuminati, Kim Jong Il, Worldwide Ninjas Association, Klingon Empire and lolcats. Don't mess around with it, just accept it and embrace the truth

01-28-2004, 08:49 PM	#14
harvey Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: 127.0.0.1 Posts: 9,266	thanx Alan contacting you now KCat: more or less, still defining the details and getting some feedback and ideas on it, but yes, you could said that in it smost basic form __________________ This post is endorsed by CIA, KGB, MI6, the Mafia, Illuminati, Kim Jong Il, Worldwide Ninjas Association, Klingon Empire and lolcats. Don't mess around with it, just accept it and embrace the truth

01-28-2004, 05:23 PM	#6
RRACY Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 1,393	How many licenses will you sell? I can't see how you could make a profit off only getting 1k for that amount of content

01-28-2004, 05:56 PM	#8
Carrie Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Virgin - nee Posts: 3,162	Mikey (219content) was doing this years ago with his old content company that turned into FocusAdult. PheonixContent I think it was?

01-28-2004, 06:47 PM	#12
alan-l Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Location: look behind you Posts: 2,477	Harv, you know I consider you one of the top guys to make biz with, but I think you've to make some adjustments in this idea. For one, I'd make the content a little more expensive for a start, then go down that 20%. Not because I want to pay more, but because I don't want all newbies jump on something like this and get a saturated market. I told you this before, telling it again, will tell it always: don't go too low, make'em pay for your work. Just let's chat on ICQ, I've a couple suggestions you may find useful and don't want to tell them in public For the record, whatever Harvey decides to do with this, he's the most honest and hard working person I ever met and his stuff rocks even compared to top content producers, just check his site, he even adquired technical expertises no content shooter has such as UW filming

01-28-2004, 06:49 PM	#13
KCat Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: PNW Posts: 2,204	Your post isn't clear to me. Are you offering $1000 for 5 exclusive video scenes every month? Locked into a 3 or 6 month contract or something like that?

01-28-2004, 11:42 PM	#15
Paul Markham Too old to care Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws. Posts: 52,943	We are looking to buy in content to resell so hit me on ICQ. Your idea could shoot you in the foot. The problem with "Specials" is that your existing clients buy them and they would have bought anyway. So with a little bit of new business coming in you actually lose money. I may go to affering one of our "Specials" only to those who registered within the last seven days. Everyone on the list has been spammed and told about them so if they did not buy that is there fault. And the new guy gets an incentive to buy and see how our content and service works. __________________ Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500. PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70

01-29-2004, 12:44 AM	#16
harvey Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: 127.0.0.1 Posts: 9,266	hey Charly, I'll contact you tomorrow since I'm falling asleep now, it's 5 AM for me __________________ This post is endorsed by CIA, KGB, MI6, the Mafia, Illuminati, Kim Jong Il, Worldwide Ninjas Association, Klingon Empire and lolcats. Don't mess around with it, just accept it and embrace the truth

01-29-2004, 01:06 AM	#17
Argoz Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Qc Posts: 3,006	bump for the idea!

01-29-2004, 02:45 AM	#18
KraZ Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: ICQ:: 18822023 Posts: 2,636	Hey Harv, Contact me via ICQ (18822023) - I could help you with the production and the profit margin Alan is right though - you might want to start a bit higher... A few models that I manage: __________________ Selling MedicalPorn,com and a dozen other gyno & doctor domains here: http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=871984

01-29-2004, 02:48 AM	#19
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01-29-2004, 02:50 AM	#20
Brujah Beer Money Baron Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: brujah / gmail Posts: 22,157	hey charly answer your icq __________________ Free Premium Domain Lists and Tools at Clickmojo.com For Sale: Obscenity.com

01-29-2004, 02:56 AM	#21
Shoehorn! Die With Your Boots On Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Hawaii Posts: 22,872	Hmmm

01-29-2004, 11:41 PM	#22
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01-30-2004, 01:00 PM	#24
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01-30-2004, 02:16 PM	#25
Catalinas Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Las Vegas, Nevada Posts: 346	When Phoenix did it, it wasn't exlusive. For exclusive, that's a really great price, but how custom can you get? I would not buy a facial scene for example. Unless it's something we need, we can't use it. Anyhow, I think it's a viable idea, just gotta be very specific. And one thing I hate is when I buy from a content place and 2 weeks later they sell all their stuff for half what I paid for a few of their sets. So, I'd recommend you keep the pricing consistent and don't do special deals when you're hard up for cash. I think that shows little respect for the people who bought them from you at full price. Rambling now.. Catalina