reynold

I've heard a buddy say there's a deal for outsourced webmasters (who've gone through rigorous training and know html/jscript/msql/php) for $350 a month . 48 hours a week. They provide the computers/bandwidth/time sheets/on cam monitoring, etc etc

Is this a good deal?

Platinum Dave

$350 a month a good deal?

That is a steal.

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strobi

350$ is nothing... You can hire 10 of those and still pay 3500$/month

reynold

I guess the considerations are the following:


MUST understand/speak English fluently

MUST be available on ICQ for the time they are working

MUST work US/EU/CAN hours (hours of their webmaster employers in US/EU/CAN)

MUST go through a rigorous training regimen

MUST have certification re applications/HTML/J.a.v.a.s.c.r.i.p.t./ph-p/etc

MUST have gone through an "apprenticeship" program

MUST be working at a centralized site

MUST be centrally managed (in addition to 1 on 1 communications with employer)


Plus there must be safeguards against them working for other employers.

strobi

That will be 1500$/month, thank you come again. Those 350/month people are mostly for grunt work, if they can do better, you're lucky

reynold

That's what I'm trying to find out. Also trying to see if there are other systemic ways to push the price even lower.

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Reynold can you ICQ me? 209235248

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reynold

I just got off the phone with my buddy and he assures me that this can be done at $200 a month.

What would your concerns be when buying a service like this?

bigdog

does your buddy have a url?

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reynold

They do but I don't want to mess up the surprise for him. He's testing this out with a US based data capture company. Apparently the results are looking very promising

Richard - Triplexcash

$200 you have to be right at cost or even a little below it.

I would be suspect of a long term relationship at that price, as it would be very difficult to retain employees and even stay profitable for the outsourcing company.

If it is your own office, maybe.

That's based on Philippine prices, I don't know India/China/East Europe

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i spoke with the company last week, they also have a free 1 week set up, www.adultoutsourcing.com

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Trax

used one of their designers
untalented fuck
my little sister could design better
waste of time

i used my free month and let him build sites instead lol
after that i spent weeks correcting his shit

Trax

btw for 350 bucks i will buy any available webmaster with that skills

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Carrie

1. that they follow directions (ie: if I give them a particular way to build a site, that's how they'll build it)
2. accountability for the work they've done (DAILY reports) so I know they're not just sitting there picking their noses
3. completing projects on-time
4. speak competent english
5. respond in a timely manner to inquiries (icq,email)

This is what I'd expect of any employee, not just outsourced ones.
I don't mind - actually I prefer - giving someone detailed directions and even examples of how I want something done; I'm not the type of person to just say "build me 10 free sites". I say "build me 10 free sites like THIS one" and then expect that the sites actually BE like the one I gave as an example.

Carrie

The lowest I see on this site is $795/mo.

loverboy

sorry to hear that dude, that offer (1 Month FREE) was given more than 6 months ago, when the company was just starting. it was a test phase for us and our designers to feel how the market looks like. why complain about the FREE month work?

presently, we are more organized and we can assure you that your staff is fully monitored during their shift to make sure customers are qualified. We learn from our mistakes and we are happy to say that we have outgrown most of our competitors in the market.

to those who plan to sign-up for the Free week to test the skills of our staff, and if your not satisfied, we will make the replacement immediately.

loverboy

dude, hit me up on the ICQ and i'll discuss more about the 75+ outsourced staffs working to more than 25+ clients worldwide, or you can join our Live 24/7 Live Chat Adultoutsourcing.com

Manowar

i run tgps/link lists - including writing the descriptions and linking them up/ html grunt work for $100 a month

loverboy

yes, a Week FREE to test the skills of our staff. if your happy, then you own him 6 days a week, 8 hours a day (fully managed guaranteed).

xxxoutsourcing

Sounds too good to be true, but hell if it works out for ya great.
Is this a company that's doing this?
got the web address?

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faxxaff

... why only 8 hours a day? Filipinos like to work 10 or 12 hours a day. That is the norm. Much better to spend time at work than at home .... diba ?

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AdultNex

This is my most major concern, I understand that many foreign people can speak English. But very fluent English is a barrier that not many people have under their belt.

reynold

Those guys charge $800 ... so its not them.

reynold

This should not be a problem in a multilevel organization.

reynold

That's hilarious. These new outsource guys at $200 don't do design. I think based on these threads.........you know why

loverboy

True, but those who spent more than 8 hours a day are only required to work 5 days a week. we have to extend our days of work to keep up with our clients who needs full-time work round the clock. I too spend more than 8 hours just to keep with my clients and to make sure everything is running smoothly with AOS.

loverboy

In Asia, the Philippines is the only country that can speak the English language fluently. Call Centers is one of the major booming industry here, Macromedia, MSN and other bigger players, you name it.

reynold

Exactly. Plus using contractors, webmasters can be sourced for $200 or less.

digifan

Couldn't agree more.

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reynold

What if they also allowed US/CAN/EU-based webmasters the option of SELECTING WHO TO HIRE?

onlyreal

If you tell what exactly you want

maybe i can do

what i know

php mysql oracle jsp html

c c++ some java(gonna be good in 1 2 months) ...(things a computer science students know)

I need money

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StuartD

One sentence comes to mind.

"You get what you paid for"

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bhutocracy

gee that's kinda going to make it hard. You've just confined yourself to south americans.

reynold

There seems to be a revolutionary innovation making the rounds lately called a "night shift"

reynold

What exactly will you be getting for paying extra for same quality work?

By the way the price is $200 per month. 9 hours a day, 6 days a week.

reynold

This works out to about 92 cents an hour.

bhutocracy

good luck, I'm sure you'll get the cream of the crop . Night shift is for juniors or college kids.

HEARTBREAKER

hi reynold, do you mind if i ask which company is this???
i think that is so cheap for a webmaster...

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reynold

Similar to owners of burger stands asking why McDonalds or Mr. Tan's Jollibee can charge so little and yet make so much money

Rictor

I had a couple at $900 a month. They were good for building free hosted galleries and banners...well one of them was. The second guy we let go...couldn't even make a usable banner.

Insist on a free week long trial to make sure you have some one worth a damn. Even cheap labor isn't free.

SoundMan

time to work at wendys!

at this rate there will be -0- webmasters jobs left in a few years!

jacopini

Hi, i'm from the Philippines $350 is a good money here.
I would take any offer for that money

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elric

How do folks who use outsourced HTML people handle things like copywriting and wording?

Do you provide a flat file with info for each page? Fax a drawing?

I have several projects I'd love to outsource, but I am wondering how I could do it without having to go through and rewrite a lot of stuff each time.

Is there anyone out there actually doing this for the bulk of their sites?

jacopini

Being a Filipino myself, i can attest to the fact that Filipinos are really good in
the English language and not only that, we can speak English without the accent.

As a side note i would like to share with you a funny story that i came across with
one of our local papers here.

WHO SAID THAT? : We've heard many stories about Filipios and other Asian children excelling
in class in America. Many of these kids, some of them newly emigrated to the US, were just

ordinary students back int Philippines.

With that pat on the back, we share this story e-mailed to us yesterday by reader Bobby

Tordesillas:

It was the first day of school in Washington, DC, and a new student name Dagohoy, the son of
a Filipino immigrant, entered the fourth grade.

The teacher began, "Let's review some American history, class. Who said 'Give me liberty of

give me death'?" She saw a sea of blank faces, except for Dagohoy's who had his hand up,

"Patrick Henry, 1775," he replied. "Very good," said the teacher.
"Who said 'Goverment of the people, by the people, and for the people shall not perish from
the earth'?"

Again, no response except from Dagohoy: "Abraham Lincoln, Gettysburg, 1863," he said.

The teacher snaps at the class, "Class, you should be ashamed, Dagohoy who is new to our

country knows more about our history than you do."

She hears a loud whisper from the back: "Screw the Filipinos". "Whos said that?" she

demanded.

Dagohoy put his hand up. "General John Pershing, Manila 1899."

At that point, Jack, another student says, "i'm going to puke."

The teacher glares and asks, "All right! Now who said that?"

Again Dagohoy answers, "George Bush Sr. to the Japanese Prime Minister during the state

dinner, Tokyo, 1991."

Now Furious, another student yells, "Oh yeah? suck this!!"

Dagohoy jumps out of his chair waving his hand and shouts to the teacher at the top of his

voice, "Bill Clinton to Monica Lewinsky, the Oval Office, 1997!!"

Someone shouts, "You little shit if you say anything else, I'll kill you".

Dagohoy yells, "Congressman Gary Condit to Chandra Levy, Washington, DC, 2001!"

The teacher faints.

"I'm outa here!" mutters one student as he sidles to the door.
"President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo, Baguio City, December 30, 2002!!" Dagohoy responds.

As the class gathers around the teacher on the floor, someone says, "Oh shit, now
we're really in big trouble!"

"Saddam Hussein, on the Iraq invasion, Baghdad, May 2003!" Dagohoy bellowed.

"Now i really have to run," Jack mutters, heading for the exit.
"Gloria Macapagal Arroyo again, Pamganga, October 4, 2003!!!" Dagohoy shouts triumphantly,

jumping with glee.

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Mr. Marks

Will you work full time for $350 a month or do jobs for several webmasters?

Can you do original copywriting? Stories?

Odin88

How good are their php/mysql skills. Also, where the fuck is the link? ;)

xxxoutsourcing

Hell that's cheap, tell you what give me there web address or contact details and i'll take some on, my guys cost a lot more than that for me.
$200 a month...
After my computer, water, electric, internet costs my costs per employee are way above that.

See what internet connections these gusy use DSL?

Send me the contact details for these guys i might just thro a few thousand $$$ at it to see what they are like.
As long as they don't work from home.... loads of guys like that around for that money.

They gotta be supervised and have fast internet connections and take responsability for there actions if they fuck up.

What are their skills, who's improving there range of knowlage???

My staff have me on hand 24/7 for client support.
8 Years in the adult industry helps...

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