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steffie 01-21-2004 09:27 AM

Don't forget where Bush is getting his dollars from. The religious bible people..

We are looking at a second term ladies and gents
We are looking at Big Brother watching youre every step

Freedom of speech is going downhill
Porn will be coming from overseas 80% of the time soon

I am more scared of religious fanatics than anything else in the world. They will kill to make a point, they will harrass and torture people to make them believe in the All Mighty.

Bush is scary - There are so many people who wow over him and are ready to do anything to get him into the white house again

Religious Activists vote
Most others dont

I forsee

New Abortion Law
Restrictions on Porn online from the USA
Censorship for viewing Porn sites located outside the USA
Burning of books

It's going to get a lot worse people, I hope America is ready to lose their freedom

Cassie 01-21-2004 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by steffie
Don't forget where Bush is getting his dollars from. The religious bible people..

We are looking at a second term ladies and gents
We are looking at Big Brother watching youre every step

Freedom of speech is going downhill
Porn will be coming from overseas 80% of the time soon

I am more scared of religious fanatics than anything else in the world. They will kill to make a point, they will harrass and torture people to make them believe in the All Mighty.

Bush is scary - There are so many people who wow over him and are ready to do anything to get him into the white house again

Religious Activists vote
Most others dont

I forsee

New Abortion Law
Restrictions on Porn online from the USA
Censorship for viewing Porn sites located outside the USA
Burning of books

It's going to get a lot worse people, I hope America is ready to lose their freedom


Codify into law an executive order that allows religious institutions to use tax dollars to deliver various social services.

in my personal opinion this guy has been trying to bring back church and state since his term began and i wont have religion of any kind forced into my life.

Roger 01-21-2004 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sperbonzo
actually, if you watch the news, what he was referring to was the states where the a big majority of the population (60 to 70%) are against same sex marraige, and then democracy is overturned when a couple of judges decide to overrule what the people of the state actually want and instead rewrite the laws themselves.

Laws are supposed to be created by the will of the people, not a dictatorship of a couple of judges. THAT's what this issue is about.:2 cents:

So the majority should be stomping on the rights of a minority? Yep, now that's something.

Roger 01-21-2004 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sperbonzo
Actually, my own views aside.....the "normal" poplulation DON'T think that same sex marriages should be legal....the count last year was about 65% of Americans are against it. Should a couple of judges make the rules or should there be a democracy?

just a thought....

It's none of there damn business. Should the population be made to decide wether you are ready or not to get married? Should they approve who you're getting married to?

rett11 01-21-2004 10:01 AM

Really, the bottom line here is that Bush and his admin. have no regard for the lives of others...they bow to the almighty dollar. And don't give me 'all politicians do', cuz while that is true, we need to look at WHICH dollar they are bowing to.

Head 01-21-2004 10:15 AM

I hope he doesn't get into power for your sake! Notice how i don't say; 'ellected.'

sperbonzo 01-21-2004 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Roger


It's none of there damn business. Should the population be made to decide wether you are ready or not to get married? Should they approve who you're getting married to?


Sorry, but I have a news flash for you. Marriage is a civil contract which the community and the goverment are VERY involved in. There are many responsibilities, rights, liabilities, and priviliges that are associated legally with marriage. You can call yourself a couple, you can say you are united, you can do whatever you want, but the term "marriage" has legal ramifications and is a public contract.

Don't beleive me? See what happens when you break that public contract and get divorced. See what happens to your property, your taxes, your rights regarding your children, your income, etc....

Roger 01-21-2004 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sperbonzo
Sorry, but I have a news flash for you. Marriage is a civil contract which the community and the goverment are VERY involved in. There are many responsibilities, rights, liabilities, and priviliges that are associated legally with marriage. You can call yourself a couple, you can say you are united, you can do whatever you want, but the term "marriage" has legal ramifications and is a public contract.

Don't beleive me? See what happens when you break that public contract and get divorced. See what happens to your property, your taxes, your rights regarding your children, your income, etc....

Even serial killers can legally get married and nobody can stop them. Yet homosexuals should be stopped? What's next? Stopping Jews and Muslims from getting married because the majority doesn't want them to?

While at it, shouldn't countries with free healthcare deny homosexuals the right to those services since it's something that the community and the government are VERY involved in?

sperbonzo 01-21-2004 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Roger


Even serial killers can legally get married and nobody can stop them. Yet homosexuals should be stopped? What's next? Stopping Jews and Muslims from getting married because the majority doesn't want them to?

While at it, shouldn't countries with free healthcare deny homosexuals the right to those services since it's something that the community and the government are VERY involved in?

Ok, you're missing the point.....never mind......you win:thumbsup

12clicks 01-21-2004 10:40 AM

these threads are a great reminder why the turnover rate for people in this business is so high.
for whatever reason, this business attracts idiots.:glugglug


someone actually said we're going to see book burnings.
amazing

no, stunning.

Roger 01-21-2004 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks
these threads are a great reminder why the turnover rate for people in this business is so high.
for whatever reason, this business attracts idiots.:glugglug


someone actually said we're going to see book burnings.
amazing

no, stunning.

I'm amazed you didn't laugh your ass off at Bush's speech.

Sex is bad, please don't do it.
Gays are bad.
Drugs are bad.
Porn is bad.
God is guiding me.

That alone should be enough for anyone.

Roger 01-21-2004 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sperbonzo
Ok, you're missing the point.....never mind......you win:thumbsup
What point? If gays are part of society they should be allowed all the benefits that come with. It's not as if they don't pay there taxes or are living by there own sets of laws.

Rich 01-21-2004 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sperbonzo
actually, if you watch the news, what he was referring to was the states where the a big majority of the population (60 to 70%) are against same sex marraige, and then democracy is overturned when a couple of judges decide to overrule what the people of the state actually want and instead rewrite the laws themselves.

Laws are supposed to be created by the will of the people, not a dictatorship of a couple of judges. THAT's what this issue is about.:2 cents:

You're a fucking idiot, you totally missed the point. Wake up, it's not an election, it's human rights. If 60% of people in a state don't want black people to be allowed in white stores, well that doesn't fucking matter, does it? That just makes them retarted rednecks, it doesn't mean they should get their way.

Rich 01-21-2004 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks
these threads are a great reminder why the turnover rate for people in this business is so high.
for whatever reason, this business attracts idiots.:glugglug


someone actually said we're going to see book burnings.
amazing

no, stunning.

Why, because people don't like Bush, and support gay marrige? What the fuck does that have to do with turnover in our industry? You need to learn how to make sense pal, your arguments are getting lammer and lammer. hmm, funny how you bitched out of that thread yesterday when asked if you support the extreme neo con agendy. Either back up your words or shut the fuck up.

jas1552 01-21-2004 12:55 PM

Gays have the equal right to marry someone of the opposite sex like everyone else.

12clicks 01-21-2004 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rich


Why, because people don't like Bush, and support gay marrige? What the fuck does that have to do with turnover in our industry? You need to learn how to make sense pal, your arguments are getting lammer and lammer. hmm, funny how you bitched out of that thread yesterday when asked if you support the extreme neo con agendy. Either back up your words or shut the fuck up.

look child, when the teacher speaks about things you don't understand, don't ask the teacher to make sense, ask him to dumb it down for you.
:1orglaugh

Centurion 01-21-2004 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cassie
Bush warned that a "constitutional process" might be necessary if what he called "activist judges" allowed same-sex marriages.

does any of the "normal" population really care if bruce and biff marry or what they do behind closed doors? well, if that statement alone doesn't draw votes away from this rat looking thing, then i don't know what will!

i can't believe, in this day and age, someone would make such a bold statement. especially during a reelection year. next he will be saying that pets don't belong in the household and owners must remove them or they will find themselves in a federal jail.

m-m, f-f want to marry, so be it. they wouldn't be bothering me so what do i care (and i am sure there are many more who feel the same as i do). the gay mainstream market grossed 450 mil last year so i say more power to them.

if there is a god in heaven, get this guy out of office!

Agreed!

But Bush is pandering big time to the Religious Right since they are insisting on this. The Right wing has always had to have some enemy, and since the end of Communism, it was hard to find one.

BUT..then they discovered GAYS and all the terrifying horrors they are perpetrating on the United States. My god..we can't have people openly loving others..no matter what sex.

It's WAR that makes this a truly "Godly" country! Not love!

Centurion 01-21-2004 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks


this is wrong too. :winkwink:
a government should reward families. Children who have a mom and dad in the home succeed far more often than those who don't. Smart people like to see the people of our country succeed and we don't mind giving a reward to families who help their children succeed.

you want to fuck another guy in the ass? I have no problem with it, just don't ask the government to sanction it. When I was single, I wasn't looking for the government to sanction *my* lifestyle.

You want to REWARD families? WHY? Families are no more "special" than individual humans. And you argue against sanctioning gay marriage..yet that is EXACTLY what the government is doing..but only for heterosexual couples.

The government should STAY out of the marriage business completely!! I thought Conservatives were AGAINST the government getting in everyone's business?

Centurion 01-21-2004 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks
these threads are a great reminder why the turnover rate for people in this business is so high.
for whatever reason, this business attracts idiots.:glugglug



Agreed! You must be bankrupt by now!!
:1orglaugh

Cassie 01-21-2004 01:20 PM

its funny how segregation was suppose to end in the 60's but yet it's still very rampant today. rather then a race it is now a gender. i wonder if i will be allowed to vote, since i am a woman ya know :)

gay relationships do not bother me. its a relationship between two people and if it happens to be of the same sex, so be it. those relationships arent effecting me in any way just like heterosexual relationships dont.

lets concern ourselves with important issues like why are so many kid killing each other and being kidnapped. lets worry about those who had jobs for 25 years and are now on the unemployment line. lets worry about large corp execs stealing money from not only those who work for them but their clients as well.

there are far more important issues to worry about then who lays in bed with who.

12clicks 01-21-2004 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Centurion


You want to REWARD families? WHY? Families are no more "special" than individual humans.

Incorrect child. Families are raising our future.

Quote:

Originally posted by Centurion
And you argue against sanctioning gay marriage..yet that is EXACTLY what the government is doing..but only for heterosexual couples.
Yes, the couples that are responsible for raising our future.

Quote:

Originally posted by Centurion
The government should STAY out of the marriage business completely!! I thought Conservatives were AGAINST the government getting in everyone's business?
ahhh, the misguided youth.:1orglaugh

Carrie 01-21-2004 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks
these threads are a great reminder why the turnover rate for people in this business is so high.
for whatever reason, this business attracts idiots.:glugglug


someone actually said we're going to see book burnings.
amazing

no, stunning.

I don't even think "stunning" is quite the word. Incredulous perhaps?
Keep in mind she meant gov't sanctioned book burnings, not just a few nuts screaming over a local fire.

jas1552 01-21-2004 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cassie
its funny how segregation was suppose to end in the 60's but yet it's still very rampant today. rather then a race it is now a gender.
Lol wtf? Yeah we shouldn't have seperate public restrooms for men and women. It's discrimination and it's wrong.

12clicks 01-21-2004 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cassie
its funny how segregation was suppose to end in the 60's but yet it's still very rampant today. rather then a race it is now a gender. i wonder if i will be allowed to vote, since i am a woman ya know :)

gay relationships do not bother me. its a relationship between two people and if it happens to be of the same sex, so be it. those relationships arent effecting me in any way just like heterosexual relationships dont.

lets concern ourselves with important issues like why are so many kid killing each other and being kidnapped. lets worry about those who had jobs for 25 years and are now on the unemployment line. lets worry about large corp execs stealing money from not only those who work for them but their clients as well.

there are far more important issues to worry about then who lays in bed with who.

yet liberals spend every day pandering for the gay vote by demanding to recognize a union that has never been recognized in human history.
:thumbsup
I love it.

Carrie 01-21-2004 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Roger


I'm amazed you didn't laugh your ass off at Bush's speech.

Sex is bad, please don't do it.
Gays are bad.
Drugs are bad.
Porn is bad.
God is guiding me.

That alone should be enough for anyone.

Please quote for me exactly where Bush mentioned porn in this speech.

I actually watched the whole thing (at 3am this morning) while reading the transcript.
Quit putting words into his mouth... goodness knows he's got enough stuffed in there as it is.

Cassie 01-21-2004 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jas1552

Lol wtf? Yeah we shouldn't have seperate public restrooms for men and women. It's discrimination and it's wrong.

what rock did you crawl out of? get the point i am making or dont join the conversation. who the hell is talking about bathrooms and what the hell does that have to do with anything?

Cassie 01-21-2004 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks


yet liberals spend every day pandering for the gay vote by demanding to recognize a union that has never been recognized in human history.
:thumbsup
I love it.

so youre saying gay couples who are raising a family shouldnt be recognized? and who suffers from that?

PlayGirl 01-21-2004 01:28 PM

:ak47: bush

12clicks 01-21-2004 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cassie


so youre saying gay couples who are raising a family shouldnt be recognized? and who suffers from that?

gay couples can't raise a family of their own and shouldn't raise someone else's.

jas1552 01-21-2004 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cassie


what rock did you crawl out of? get the point i am making or dont join the conversation. who the hell is talking about bathrooms and what the hell does that have to do with anything?

You mentioned something about segregation of gender. Seperate public restrooms for men and women is the only example I thought of off hand where there is segregation of gender. Unless you are referring to gays as a gender in which case you're an idiot.

Carrie 01-21-2004 01:31 PM

In case no one noticed, it takes a man and a woman to make a family.

In all of human history there has yet to be two men who could conceive, carry, and birth a baby. There has yet to be two women who could conceive, carry, and birth a baby.

Cassie 01-21-2004 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks


gay couples can't raise a family of their own and shouldn't raise someone else's.

and why cant they? i guess you feel the same about a couple who cant have children either and turn to adoption as a form of child bearing (for a lack of better wording) because it is the same thing.

12clicks 01-21-2004 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cassie


and why cant they? i guess you feel the same about a couple who cant have children either and turn to adoption as a form of child bearing (for a lack of better wording) because it is the same thing.

No, that's the idiot's version that I figured you'd come up with.

A child needs a mother and a father to have the best chance in life.
A child shouldn't be deprived of one or the other because Jimmy and Timmy want to play the full version of house.

Cassie 01-21-2004 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks

No, that's the idiot's version that I figured you'd come up with.

A child needs a mother and a father to have the best chance in life.
A child shouldn't be deprived of one or the other because Jimmy and Timmy want to play the full version of house.

make sense will you.....

male and female cant have kids, they turn to adoption

male/male-female/female can have kids technically but they still turn to adoption

all can raise kids equally....

god i hate to see your warped views on single parenthood but im not really interested in knowing so please dont elaborate.

Joe Citizen 01-21-2004 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks


who gives a fuck about afganistan? the people of afganistan allowed themselves to be ruled by fools who attacked us.
horrible state of affairs? its their own doing.

The Taliban attacked the U.S? :eek7

You are a moron.

jas1552 01-21-2004 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cassie


make sense will you.....

male and female cant have kids, they turn to adoption

male/male-female/female can have kids technically but they still turn to adoption

all can raise kids equally....

god i hate to see your warped views on single parenthood but im not really interested in knowing so please dont elaborate.

A child needs a mother and a father. Single parenthood happens either through irresponsibility or tragedy.

doornx 01-21-2004 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks

No, that's the idiot's version that I figured you'd come up with.

A child needs a mother and a father to have the best chance in life.
A child shouldn't be deprived of one or the other because Jimmy and Timmy want to play the full version of house.

Jeezz that's shortsighted..what about all the single parents
raising kids...never mind,,,i don't think i want to know...

We need CLARK FOR PRESIDENT!!!

i can't take another 4 years watching his ugle mugg terrorizing the world

jas1552 01-21-2004 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by doornx


Jeezz that's shortsighted..what about all the single parents
raising kids

They are irresponsible or unfortunate.

Libertine 01-21-2004 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks


this is wrong too. :winkwink:
a government should reward families. Children who have a mom and dad in the home succeed far more often than those who don't. Smart people like to see the people of our country succeed and we don't mind giving a reward to families who help their children succeed.

you want to fuck another guy in the ass? I have no problem with it, just don't ask the government to sanction it. When I was single, I wasn't looking for the government to sanction *my* lifestyle.

So you are not a proponent of laissez-faire capitalism, but instead want a government which dictates how people should live? I'd almost think you're a commie :1orglaugh

Aside from that, lesbian couples actually do a better job at raising kids than straight couples. Gay couples can also adopt kids, something that is very beneficial to society (kids tend to do better in any situation which provides two parents in comparison to orphanages and such).

Something you could also wonder about is if the possibility of marriage endorsed by the state is what creates long-term, stable relationships. Wouldn't the people who choose to get married stay together for a longer time than those who choose not to get married anyway?

The argument of straight marriages being better for society than gay marriages doesn't hold if you're taking a practical point of view. The only reason one can say straight marriages should be supported by the government and gay marriages should not comes from either religion or conservatism for the sake of conservatism.

SexxxyChat-T 01-21-2004 01:57 PM

Back in the 1860's a majority of Americans didn't want to end slavery, even in the North. There was a war over it because ending slavery was the right thing to do.

Back in the early 1900's a majority of Americans didn't want to give women the right to vote. The judges gave them that right because it was the right thing to do.

Back in the 1960's a majority of Americans didn't want to end segregation either. There was nearly a rebellion over it, and it brought about civil rights - because it was the right thing to do.

Now we face the same issue - should gays have the same rights as every other American?

A majority of Americans don't want to give the gays the rights to marriage. The judges are interpreting the Constitution "All men are created equal" this means that even gay men and women should have the same rights as people like you and me. - it is the right thing to do.


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