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Old 01-18-2004, 08:41 PM   #1
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AdStats - Nobody Wants Your Hosting

Wow... http://www.adstats.com is down AGAIN

2nd time in what, a week?

Nobody wants your business Atherton.

Go away, enjoy your millions, leave this business to the professionals who have a longterm view.

To all you affiliates promoting him, how many times does he have to go down before you realize that he's NOT RELIABLE and eventually you wont get paid!!!

Fuck, sorry, i just get emotional when i see people fucking up this biz for everybody
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Old 01-18-2004, 08:43 PM   #2
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I made a thread asking for them to post all their success stories and only one person admitted to promoting it. I hope that their database gets confiscated and all the webmasters promoting them get some federal attention.

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Old 01-18-2004, 08:44 PM   #3
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Atherton is the master of the sheep.

And hey.. the only people that NEED a longterm view
are the ones that cant do it shortterm... perhaps..?
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Sure sux if people can't deliver on promisses.
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I emailed Duke and had him throw a story up to and he did.

http://www.adultbeat.com/article.php?id=421

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Old 01-18-2004, 08:47 PM   #6
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You obviously don't like him Hooper, so he must have used the phrase "These Jews" at one point in his life.

We know how easily you take offence, right?
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Old 01-18-2004, 08:48 PM   #7
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Old 01-18-2004, 08:48 PM   #8
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Old 01-18-2004, 10:05 PM   #9
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Hey Hopper...

You fucking moron, that page was not adstats ? it was a simple message to webmasters saying pull your traffic until the new network is up.

The guys that send us traffic are not likely to use some needle-dick operation like yours so I am not even sure why you are bothering to post?

If I pointed just one tiny fraction of our traffic at your machine [I doubt you have more than one] I would expect it to fry.. Get off your lame high horse and admit facts ? if you were in any way successful you probably wouldn?t bother posting on this board?

You are another one who should do the math ? you have posted 2036 times on this board ? 3 minutes a post gives 101 hours ? at 12 hours a day that is 8 solid days completely and utterly thrown away ? you are either exceptionally lonely and have no life, your wife is truly ugly OR, if she isn?t; and you tell her that you are working at your computer, then you are bullshitting her ? posting on this board is not work ? it is a total waste of time. But I guess you have already demonstrated that you have absolutely no respect for her ? here: http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=210961
SO maybe it is best that you immaturely brag to your buddies on this board about your wife?s bald hahahaha, and wait for the inevitable split with her because you spend more time posting to your buddies than actually talking to her?

I have a far longer term view of this business than you ever will ? I have been in it since 1995 and am fairly close to achieving what I want from it. I am not in it because I like porn, I am not in it because I like work, nor am I in it to please you - I am only in it so I can retire and do what I want with my life ? anybody who says they work in this industry for any other reason is lying to you or exceedingly stupid.

I couldn?t give a flying fuck if there are some bitter and twisted fuckwits like yourself that are jealous of success or try and leech off our misfortune ? life goes on? and in the end I am not bitter about it ? you can shrivel up and die with jealousy for all I care? but your lame attacks are not going to stop us, nor are the attempts by any of our other competitors to slow our business?

Incidentally the reason we draw so many haters is probably because we are successful, add to that; the fact that we have never shaved anybody ? and it is easy to see why some other programs see us as a threat? I am told by most of our traffic partners that we convert at more than 5 times what the best of any other program does ? QED all others must cheat lie and steal off the people sending traffic. We pay all our guys for every single signup they send. We convert at 1:40 on many sites while most others can only manage 1:400.

So in the end Hopper ? just shut the fuck up.
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Old 01-18-2004, 10:18 PM   #10
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Hey Hopper...

You fucking moron, that page was not adstats ? it was a simple message to webmasters saying pull your traffic until the new network is up.

The guys that send us traffic are not likely to use some needle-dick operation like yours so I am not even sure why you are bothering to post?

If I pointed just one tiny fraction of our traffic at your machine [I doubt you have more than one] I would expect it to fry.. Get off your lame high horse and admit facts ? if you were in any way successful you probably wouldn?t bother posting on this board?

You are another one who should do the math ? you have posted 2036 times on this board ? 3 minutes a post gives 101 hours ? at 12 hours a day that is 8 solid days completely and utterly thrown away ? you are either exceptionally lonely and have no life, your wife is truly ugly OR, if she isn?t; and you tell her that you are working at your computer, then you are bullshitting her ? posting on this board is not work ? it is a total waste of time. But I guess you have already demonstrated that you have absolutely no respect for her ? here: http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=210961
SO maybe it is best that you immaturely brag to your buddies on this board about your wife?s bald hahahaha, and wait for the inevitable split with her because you spend more time posting to your buddies than actually talking to her?

I have a far longer term view of this business than you ever will ? I have been in it since 1995 and am fairly close to achieving what I want from it. I am not in it because I like porn, I am not in it because I like work, nor am I in it to please you - I am only in it so I can retire and do what I want with my life ? anybody who says they work in this industry for any other reason is lying to you or exceedingly stupid.

I couldn?t give a flying fuck if there are some bitter and twisted fuckwits like yourself that are jealous of success or try and leech off our misfortune ? life goes on? and in the end I am not bitter about it ? you can shrivel up and die with jealousy for all I care? but your lame attacks are not going to stop us, nor are the attempts by any of our other competitors to slow our business?

Incidentally the reason we draw so many haters is probably because we are successful, add to that; the fact that we have never shaved anybody ? and it is easy to see why some other programs see us as a threat? I am told by most of our traffic partners that we convert at more than 5 times what the best of any other program does ? QED all others must cheat lie and steal off the people sending traffic. We pay all our guys for every single signup they send. We convert at 1:40 on many sites while most others can only manage 1:400.

So in the end Hopper ? just shut the fuck up.
Whoa looks who's back and watching.

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Old 01-18-2004, 10:33 PM   #11
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so with an iq of 40 that post must have taken you what? 45 minutes to write?

atherton, you are more fucked than you know. you think it takes brains to sell customers one thing and in fine print 50 lines down rob them blind?

if i'm a nobody, then ignore me... but you cant, because you're worried that every time I post that one of your affiliates might see the light of your tactics.

i understand though jon. running card scams long enough makes it tough to run a legitimate operation. so tonight, just cause i have sympathy for you i'll sit down on my knees and give a little prayer for you that you can get another week of hosting and robbing surfers and that maybe a few of the people here will be foolish enough to believe that you havent cornered yourself with the anti spammers and that your merchant account isnt ready to fall like we all know it is.

buh buy. i'm sure you'll be back in another year like the cockroach you are.
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Old 01-18-2004, 10:34 PM   #12
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Loan me 5 mil and I'll let you process through my pizza place.

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Old 01-18-2004, 10:42 PM   #13
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Hooper, every minute you spend on this board shows me your wife is still ugly - even with a shaved pussy.

But at least you have at least one small testicle and are not completely formed of estrogen like your silent bum buddy mutt?
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Old 01-18-2004, 10:46 PM   #14
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you just lost every bit of respect any idiot here might have had for you by dragging my family into this, and you made it that much more clear that you dont have a leg to stand on.

you're a bitter old man atherton, it's obvious that i'm under your skin.

come up with a new scam.
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Old 01-18-2004, 10:47 PM   #15
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How about PAY us then leave if you choose to.
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Old 01-18-2004, 10:50 PM   #16
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Hooper, every minute you spend on this board shows me your wife is still ugly - even with a shaved pussy.

But at least you have at least one small testicle and are not completely formed of estrogen like your silent bum buddy mutt?
Is that really all you've got? Can you explain something to me about your legit program, can you explain why your hosting would get yanked with 5 minutes notice as you said yourself, can you tell me why you keep having to change banks accouts, why do you keep needing new merchant accounts? Please win me over instead of talking shit about someones family.

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Old 01-18-2004, 10:55 PM   #17
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Um,

I didn't bring your wife into this lamer - YOU did:
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showt...threadid=210961

YOU lost all respect with that post - does your wife know you made it?
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Old 01-18-2004, 11:03 PM   #18
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I like Hooper, but he should worry about his own business and not other peoples. It took me several years to learn that, and I now make alot more $.
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Hooper, every minute you spend on this board shows me your wife is still ugly - even with a shaved pussy.

But at least you have at least one small testicle and are not completely formed of estrogen like your silent bum buddy mutt?
... to bad this board only allows me to post 3 smilies, that comment deserved at least 25.
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Old 01-18-2004, 11:19 PM   #20
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Um,

I didn't bring your wife into this lamer - YOU did:
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showt...threadid=210961

YOU lost all respect with that post - does your wife know you made it?
Go ahead, we know you read my post so answer it chief? Or hit my ICQ and I've got something better for you.
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Old 01-18-2004, 11:22 PM   #21
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what jon, you think me or my wife is embarassed that she had a hair removal procedure? and yes, she knows i brought it up. is that all you've got.

brad, i appreciate your insite into the matter, but trust me, i'm spending plenty of time working on business. are you working for atherton now?
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Dear Mr Atherton,

I'd like to interview you for adultbeat.com.

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great thread (wastes another 3 minutes).
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Old 01-18-2004, 11:48 PM   #26
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You are so lame Snooper:

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=210961

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it's my WIFE dude.. she's not into what i do... i'll be in trouble if she just fidns this thread!
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like i said; fuck off and stop wasting time
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jon..i'd love to get my adstats wires...been quite a while. Any idea when?
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From what I was told...

Pago shut off thier merchant acohahahaha and held all of their funds. Level 3 shut them down.

The Israel bank they are using now will be turning them off as well. Visa knows they are Supabill under a new name (Pzest), who was terminated last year, just under a different name. The game is over.

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Who asked you mitch or [at least his shill Zprogramz - gotta wonder why somebody who runs a customer service business and a supposed fraud scrub system is posting on this thread?

Could it be that we got tired of giving him the undisclosed 1.5% kickback that he was stealing off us?
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Who asked you mitch or [at least his shill Zprogramz - gotta wonder why somebody who runs a customer service business and a supposed fraud scrub system is posting on this thread?

Could it be that we got tired of giving him the undisclosed 1.5% kickback that he was stealing off us?
Huh?

Sorry "Money". I am not Mitch. I just know all about your scam.

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Who asked you mitch or [at least his shill Zprogramz - gotta wonder why somebody who runs a customer service business and a supposed fraud scrub system is posting on this thread?

Could it be that we got tired of giving him the undisclosed 1.5% kickback that he was stealing off us?
Ouch. Saw that one coming.

Not sure the motivation of shilling information only a small handful of people are privy to.

People never cease to amaze me, expecially those who have made money with the people they are in the process of slamming [diming out].

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Ouch. Saw that one coming.

Not sure the motivation of shilling information only a small handful of people are privy to.

People never cease to amaze me, expecially those who have made money with the people they are in the process of slamming [diming out].

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I actually have never done any business with these clowns and would never, just been reading all about them and was told by some other webmasters to stay away from them and what their bank situations are. We use Pago throuigh the same ISO they had their account with. They also are the the main reason WSB had to close down. Nothing but trouble.

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I actually have never done any business with these clowns and would never, just been reading all about them and was told by some other webmasters to stay away from them and what their bank situations are. We use Pago throuigh the same ISO they had their account with. They also are the the main reason WSB had to close down. Nothing but trouble.

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Let's close this issue with:

WSB - Do not bring them into this conversation. I know WSB and all the principles. Inserting them into this thread is unnecessary.

Pago/Deutsche Bank - Semi Relevant. This topic could consume an entire different thread. This falls under the thread that took place a few weeks ago where I made it clear that a large part of the claimed 'destruction' could be put squarely on the processors/merchant account whores.

The point of my post was the use of shill acounts being unnecessary. Look at the history of your shill ID and notice the topic of all of the threads this ID is used in. It does not take a rocket scientist to determine who is using this ID. I love you man, but these practices are un-cool.

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DO a search on zprogramz and ALL you see is Netbilling writ large.

zprogramz you are a total and complete twit, now whetehr you are mitch or somebody that works for netbilling you have breached a fairly significant non disclosure agreement....

Mitch - you are going to regret this - how's this for a come back...

You attempted to stop us integrating directly with our bank because you thought you would lose your secret commisssion, your service was so flaky and kept going down we were sure were losing money - once we integrated directly it ran like clockwork. We also moved our CS to a company that was half the price and specialises in telemarketing - our retention rate improved 30% afterwards.

You are a small timer and always will be, you have no clue how to manage customer service and you have even less of a clue how to fraud scrub.


I suggest you shut the fuck up right now
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I dont believe money is jon atherton

He would be too busy counting money
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I dont believe money is jon atherton

I have his phone number here..
and... are you going to call?
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and... are you going to call?
notice the quick edit
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DO a search on zprogramz and ALL you see is Netbilling writ large.

zprogramz you are a total and complete twit, now whetehr you are mitch or somebody that works for netbilling you have breached a fairly significant non disclosure agreement....

Mitch - you are going to regret this - how's this for a come back...

You attempted to stop us integrating directly with our bank because you thought you would lose your secret commisssion, your service was so flaky and kept going down we were sure were losing money - once we integrated directly it ran like clockwork. We also moved our CS to a company that was half the price and specialises in telemarketing - our retention rate improved 30% afterwards.

You are a small timer and always will be, you have no clue how to manage customer service and you have even less of a clue how to fraud scrub.


I suggest you shut the fuck up right now
zprogramz cant be mitch, I know hes away with his wife and kid until late tomorrow afternoon.
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Geez - WSB - I can't believe you brought that up Mitch ? I don't suppose for a minute that you have heard the news - The UK court found in our favor and awarded $1.2Million USD in our action against WSB.

The directors are now on the run in Florida someplace - or maybe they are running something else with the money they stole off all the webmasters they misled.

Next step - the court appoints an administrator and retrieves funds on behalf of ALL their creditors - not just us - then we get to see our money.

WSB should have settled, but it is now going to cost them everything.

The fact remains - you have breached non disclosure - who else does business with you?? You moron, you just plotted your own destruction - if anybody who does business wth you reads this they will be fairly concerned that one day in the future you are going to post confidential information about them...!

escortbiz - whether it is Mitch or his shill I don't care - he is working from privileged information that only Netbilling has. Besides ? you heard of mobile computing?
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Old 01-19-2004, 02:59 AM   #44
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porncash / jon atherton / money are very smart businessmen. this is a business, not a playground, we're here to make money, profit while you can off of them and you won't cry as much in the end. nothing lasts forever

anyone who can pull millions out of the business like they do are some serious players

and bottom line, it comes to how much you have in your pocket at the end of the day

your in the porn business, there are very few morals
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stick it to the scamfucks, hooper
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Old 01-19-2004, 03:04 AM   #46
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money,

don't ever bother your time here

go smoke some cubans, pick out a ferrari, and live the life

maybe do some fishing

some good magnum cristal and ladies should get you boys in the mood

afterall, its mid-day there!
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Old 01-19-2004, 03:07 AM   #47
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cheers Mike :-)

good plan
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Old 01-19-2004, 03:09 AM   #48
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oh yah

when you guys come out with the next hottest site / product make sure you remember who bashes you

so you can shave the fuck out of them

yah yah, australians don't shave,
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Old 01-19-2004, 03:10 AM   #49
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jon..i'd love to get my adstats wires...been quite a while. Any idea when?
The silence is deafening, eh
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Old 01-19-2004, 03:12 AM   #50
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Hey Jon,

While I appreciate the idea behind making a shit load of money from the business, as quickly as possible, doesnt it concern you that you are making it from ripping people off?

Im not having a go at you, its just that your parents are nice, Simon seems decent, but you have no ethics. Black sheep of the family?
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