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Old 01-19-2004, 12:40 AM   #1
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Northwest Airlines Gave Up All Their Passenger Data To The Govt.

Northwest secretly turned over complete passenger info, credit card numbers, addresses, phone numbers, etc. to the Feds and are just now admitting it.

Also, starting soon you have to give up your date of birth when buying airline tickets.

Wonder where that info is going.
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Old 01-19-2004, 12:43 AM   #2
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name + birthdate = 100% Identification.

Instead of asking for all that other info they can ask the seemingly innocent info for the same result. It would take nothig for a computer to run a real time passenger match when the birthday and name is entered.

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I read that today.
I don't really see a problem with it personally
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I read that today.
I don't really see a problem with it personally
Yeh right, lets just all go and get our bar code arm tatoos now. I'm sure its already in the works.

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I read that today.
I don't really see a problem with it personally
Unless you have something to hide. The reason why they what birth dates is beacuse those people from the middle east all have the same/similar names.
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The US Government is using those credit card details to sign up for pay sites through their own links.

They then get paid BIG affiliate checks for no expense or effort.

This money then goes towards paying off the national debt.

That's what I heard.
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let me guess - on international flights only lol


the US is famous for STILL not worrying about domestic flights
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We have to use our brains and stop giving a fuck about race this and that when it comes to stopping another 9/11 attack.

If there is another attack it will be an arab so fuck it if you are an arab / muslim or whatever and you want to board a flight check them.

Joe Smith aint doing shit leave him the fuck alone.
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Ok, don't worry about it. When I hear the argument, "The only people that have to worry when the gov tracks them are criminals and lowlifes" I just laugh.

All it would take is the updated COPA ruling to be put in effect later this year for most of us to be considered potential criminals. Mistakenly slip up on your taxes= potential crimanal. Got any parking tickets? Ever let your license expire? There are hundreds of other ways for any of us to fall out of favor with current laws unknowingly. Each one at least carries a fine. With the US government in such a money crunch all it would take is for them to be able to track you so they can collect at the worst time.

Let's say you are going on your honeymoon. You are getting ready to hop on the plane with your honey to enjoy 7 days in Cozumel. Next thing you know you hear, "Mr. Sosa, please step over here with us. Did you know you had 2 unpaid parking tickets from your last trip to Orlando? You cannot leave the country until they are paid. With intrest and late fees the amount is now $4,000. If you cannot pay now we will have to detain you at the station."

That's only a minor infraction but that's still a major inconvenience. Things like this will happen at the airport. Actually something like that already happened to me so this is why I know it's is where the US is going.
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Joe Smith aint doing shit leave him the fuck alone.
There's a lot of WHITE terrorists in the US too don't forget.
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Northworst is bloody awful airline anyway..not like QANTAS or even American.
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Ok, don't worry about it. When I hear the argument, "The only people that have to worry when the gov tracks them are criminals and lowlifes" I just laugh.

All it would take is the updated COPA ruling to be put in effect later this year for most of us to be considered potential criminals. Mistakenly slip up on your taxes= potential crimanal. Got any parking tickets? Ever let your license expire? There are hundreds of other ways for any of us to fall out of favor with current laws unknowingly. Each one at least carries a fine. With the US government in such a money crunch all it would take is for them to be able to track you so they can collect at the worst time.

Let's say you are going on your honeymoon. You are getting ready to hop on the plane with your honey to enjoy 7 days in Cozumel. Next thing you know you hear, "Mr. Sosa, please step over here with us. Did you know you had 2 unpaid parking tickets from your last trip to Orlando? You cannot leave the country until they are paid. With intrest and late fees the amount is now $4,000. If you cannot pay now we will have to detain you at the station."

That's only a minor infraction but that's still a major inconvenience. Things like this will happen at the airport. Actually something like that already happened to me so this is why I know it's is where the US is going.

So moral of the story pay your parking tickets?
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Jet Blue also gave them all this same info a while back.
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So moral of the story pay your parking tickets?
moral of the story expect the unexpected.
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Wow, I just got off a Northwest flight about 2 hours ago. No wonder they knew my favorite drink and that I wanted the chicken instead of the fish. Interesting.
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No, they knew because poor people like Milwaulkee's Best and eat chicken.
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Ok, don't worry about it. When I hear the argument, "The only people that have to worry when the gov tracks them are criminals and lowlifes" I just laugh.

All it would take is the updated COPA ruling to be put in effect later this year for most of us to be considered potential criminals. Mistakenly slip up on your taxes= potential crimanal. Got any parking tickets? Ever let your license expire? There are hundreds of other ways for any of us to fall out of favor with current laws unknowingly. Each one at least carries a fine. With the US government in such a money crunch all it would take is for them to be able to track you so they can collect at the worst time.

Let's say you are going on your honeymoon. You are getting ready to hop on the plane with your honey to enjoy 7 days in Cozumel. Next thing you know you hear, "Mr. Sosa, please step over here with us. Did you know you had 2 unpaid parking tickets from your last trip to Orlando? You cannot leave the country until they are paid. With intrest and late fees the amount is now $4,000. If you cannot pay now we will have to detain you at the station."

That's only a minor infraction but that's still a major inconvenience. Things like this will happen at the airport. Actually something like that already happened to me so this is why I know it's is where the US is going.
Exactly right. And then you have to worry who gets to see all this personal info? Are they honest? Will they pass it along to cohorts on the outside of the govt. running identity theft frauds and scams.

What about when your info accidently get mismatched or the data corrupted someway and you get flagged innocently. The more info piling up the greater the likelihood of fuckups.

Plus if Northwest gives up data, you have to ask yourself why weren't the passengers told. What's the big secret? They also violated their privacy policy and will now be subject to civil law suits.
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Exactly right. And then you have to worry who gets to see all this personal info? Are they honest? Will they pass it along to cohorts on the outside of the govt. running identity theft frauds and scams.

What about when your info accidently get mismatched or the data corrupted someway and you get flagged innocently. The more info piling up the greater the likelihood of fuckups.

Plus if Northwest gives up data, you have to ask yourself why weren't the passengers told. What's the big secret? They also violated their privacy policy and will now be subject to civil law suits.
old rule, whatever is avilable to the good guys is available for the bad

we should never forget that a CIA agent of 15 years sold secrects to russia for 100K
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I'm a world perks membersince 01' baby..... shit load of miles... I board first I get off first.... they can look into me as much as they want.....
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I'm a world perks membersince 01' baby..... shit load of miles... I board first I get off first.... they can look into me as much as they want.....
Don't get too happy there pardner. I've seen your site and you are one definitely dirty mofo. They could take you right now if they wanted to.
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old rule, whatever is avilable to the good guys is available for the bad

we should never forget that a CIA agent of 15 years sold secrects to russia for 100K
Yeh, that was unbelievable that Aldrich Aames a mole that high up in the agency wasn't detected for over a decade of espionage.

Did they kill that fuckup yet?
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We have to use our brains and stop giving a fuck about race this and that when it comes to stopping another 9/11 attack.

If there is another attack it will be an arab so fuck it if you are an arab / muslim or whatever and you want to board a flight check them.

Joe Smith aint doing shit leave him the fuck alone.
we don't have to worry about people like this anymore?
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Don't get too happy there pardner. I've seen your site and you are one definitely dirty mofo. They could take you right now if they wanted to.
take me for what? don't you think all my sites have been aproved by the proper people I am doing nothing but making good porn.... I don't do illlegal porn... if you want to get technical about everything read the laws if you have a site that show's CUM thats a bodily fluid and the way the obcenity law is written that is illlegal so if thats the case were all dirty mo fo's....
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take me for what? don't you think all my sites have been aproved by the proper people I am doing nothing but making good porn.... I don't do illlegal porn... if you want to get technical about everything read the laws if you have a site that show's CUM thats a bodily fluid and the way the obcenity law is written that is illlegal so if thats the case were all dirty mo fo's....
Dude, dont get all offended, I was just kidding with you. But if you want to get technical just make sure you never feel too safe. What you do, and most of us too I'm sure, can be considered obscene in some states. If they want you, they can get you.
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we don't have to worry about people like this anymore?
we are talking flight security

here are the 2 options, either simply scan and spread arabs on different flights etc. or put real security on each flight.

remember a us terror guy will be hard to detect by simply running his name, you will need real humans on planes to stop these fucks.
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take me for what? don't you think all my sites have been aproved by the proper people I am doing nothing but making good porn.... I don't do illlegal porn... if you want to get technical about everything read the laws if you have a site that show's CUM thats a bodily fluid and the way the obcenity law is written that is illlegal so if thats the case were all dirty mo fo's....
he was kidding
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Dude, dont get all offended, I was just kidding with you. But if you want to get technical just make sure you never feel too safe. What you do, and most of us too I'm sure, can be considered obscene in some states. If they want you, they can get you.
not offended at all..... it takes more than someone speaking there mind to offend me... I am all for personal expression... no doubt they can get us all but we all have to think this

they have taken people to court for stuff.. and lost...
the ones they win are CP cases which I think those pervs shold be hung by there balls... but the bottom line is they will not go into a court room and loose... not the gov;s style... I never feel safe... I am like boiler room I got places elswhere when it gets hot.... and your welcome to join me there if you get to hot as well

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in fact anyone who feels threatnd by the heat hit me up I got guys that handel stuff like that... I love everyone on the board and don't get offended easy... we all need to work together.... but as far as NWA giving out shit.... I hope we don't get fucking spam snail mail now.....
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in fact anyone who feels threatnd by the heat hit me up I got guys that handel stuff like that... I love everyone on the board and don't get offended easy... we all need to work together.... but as far as NWA giving out shit.... I hope we don't get fucking spam snail mail now.....
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we are talking flight security

here are the 2 options, either simply scan and spread arabs on different flights etc. or put real security on each flight.

remember a us terror guy will be hard to detect by simply running his name, you will need real humans on planes to stop these fucks.
so you're really suggesting screening every arab? so they will be able to live in the same country but when it comes down to "national security" their rights will be stripped from them. hopefully i'm just reading too much into your comment but if i did read it right then this is fucked up. if "they" are really that much of a burden then why not put them in concentration camps, oh wait thats been done before. arabs in this country have it the worst right now and this is coming froma black man who is scared shitlist whenever i see a cop behind me. sucks that that a race of people have to suffer for the actions of others in this country

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Thanks. I'm not too worried. We have a community called Dyker Heights in Brooklyn where a lot of NY guys with bigtime money live free from persecution... or so I've heard.
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you well know that if somethin happens again 99.9% it will be arabs
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so you're really suggesting screening every arab? so they will be able to live in the same country but when it comes down to "national security" their rights will be stripped from them. hopefully i'm just reading too much into your comment but if i did read it right then this is fucked up. if "they" are really that much of a burden then why not put them in concentration camps, oh wait thats been done before. arabs in this country have it the worst right now and this is coming froma black man who is scared shitlist whenever i see a cop behind me. sucks that that a race of people have to suffer for the actions of others in this country
I agree it sucks but you would think different if you where minutes away from the trade centers and you had friends that got burned alive.
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There's no chance anything is going to happen on a plane again. Think about it... if anyone tried something on a plane now most American men will fight hard to stop them. Everyone knows this. Terrorists are 99% more likely to drive another bomb filled u-haul into a big building than try omething on a commercial airliner. If they really wanted to do something like that they would probably use a corporate jumbo jet anyways.

I don't really think securing the air is the true motivation behind the added security.
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I agree it sucks but you would think different if you where minutes away from the trade centers and you had friends that got burned alive.
you think so? Q: where was the building that tim mcveigh blew up? A: check my location
i dont' use terrorism for a reason to take the rights of people who have done nothing wrong. i really don't even want to imagine what arabs in this country are going through, especially in places where i'm currently located with redneck's who think their being patrotic by fucking with someone they have a hunch is a terrorist. what is it like not to be a minority?
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There's no chance anything is going to happen on a plane again. Think about it... if anyone tried something on a plane now most American men will fight hard to stop them. Everyone knows this. Terrorists are 99% more likely to drive another bomb filled u-haul into a big building than try omething on a commercial airliner. If they really wanted to do something like that they would probably use a corporate jumbo jet anyways.

I don't really think securing the air is the true motivation behind the added security.
The only way to really secure the air is have marshals on every flight.

We dont know what they will do and how, who thought they would take planes and crash them in buildings.

And who says they cant payoff some 8 dollar an hour worker at the airport and get access to different things.

Onboard security is key
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Old 01-19-2004, 01:57 AM   #40
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you think so? Q: where was the building that tim mcveigh blew up? A: check my location
i dont' use terrorism for a reason to take the rights of people who have done nothing wrong. i really don't even want to imagine what arabs in this country are going through, especially in places where i'm currently located with redneck's who think their being patrotic by fucking with someone they have a hunch is a terrorist. what is it like not to be a minority?
There are 3 options:

Check the people who are more likly to be part of a crime

Check everyone

Dont check anyone

Everyone has their own view on whats best
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take me for what? don't you think all my sites have been aproved by the proper people I am doing nothing but making good porn.... I don't do illlegal porn... if you want to get technical about everything read the laws if you have a site that show's CUM thats a bodily fluid and the way the obcenity law is written that is illlegal so if thats the case were all dirty mo fo's....
Dirty, back in the 80's we had our phone sex services get nailed just for having girls moaning and growning on the phone. No visuals at all. They said we were broadcasting obscene material.

What I had compared to what the visuals are today, makes my stuff they came after look like a Disney movie.
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There are 3 options:

Check the people who are more likly to be part of a crime

Check everyone

Dont check anyone

Everyone has their own view on whats best
no doubt. i wasnt trying to step on your toes or anything nor was i showing disrespect towards you. just sticking up for the little guy that is usually unaccounted for. i really don't have a clue as to what they should do because 1 side of me agrees with the point that "they" should be scanned then another side reminds me that i'm still with "them." just interesting conversation at 3:00 a.m. while im working
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Dirty, back in the 80's we had our phone sex services get nailed just for having girls moaning and growning on the phone. No visuals at all. They said we were broadcasting obscene material.

What I had compared to what the visuals are today, makes my stuff they came after look like a Disney movie.
oh boy, where will we be in 5 years from now
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People forget there are about 4 Million Arabs in the US. That's one out of every 75 people living here.
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no doubt. i wasnt trying to step on your toes or anything nor was i showing disrespect towards you. just sticking up for the little guy that is usually unaccounted for. i really don't have a clue as to what they should do because 1 side of me agrees with the point that "they" should be scanned then another side reminds me that i'm still with "them." just interesting conversation at 3:00 a.m. while im working
fully understand you, I have tons of african american friends here in NY.
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you well know that if somethin happens again 99.9% it will be arabs
What a stupid statement.

Let me make a bold statement too:

You're jewish so you're biased towards arabs.

Correct?
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What a stupid statement.

Let me make a bold statement too:

You're jewish so you're biased towards arabs.

Correct?
Uh Oh Here we go . . .

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What a stupid statement.

Let me make a bold statement too:

You're jewish so you're biased towards arabs.

Correct?
when oh when will you get banned already?

that was very bold wow
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Dirty, back in the 80's we had our phone sex services get nailed just for having girls moaning and growning on the phone. No visuals at all. They said we were broadcasting obscene material.

What I had compared to what the visuals are today, makes my stuff they came after look like a Disney movie.
is there still money to be made in phone sex lines?
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