Hooper

http://www.idownload.com

Paying $15 - $20 per signup on hot software titles.

Not processed through a 3rd party (better conversions)

Paying via credit card and check.

Fantastic CFTrack Stats.

Tons of Ad Tools.

Featuring the following great titles:
http://www.hushware.com
http://www.interboost.com
http://www.popupblocker.com
http://www.securefavorites.com
http://www.uninstaller.com
http://www.wmkiller.com

If you work toolbars, tgps, search engines, cj's, exit consoles, are a paysite owner looking for upsells, or are a mailer looking for a good nonadult product to send to then http://www.iDownload.com is for you!

If you have any questions, or if you need any help promoting the products please contact me directly.

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chodadog

I can't believe you charge 30 bucks for that WMKiller shit. It takes about 20 seconds to find and remove the service.

But i guess if people are stupid enough to pay for it, then more power to you.

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Hooper

several hundred people a day are stupid enough to pay for it.

although the best converter is by far and away popupblocker.com

hey, ie is gonna introduce a popupblocker, so you might as well make some money off of ours while you still can

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Chris

Looks good

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mrthumbs

looks great dude

Chris

can ya show us some stats?

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mrthumbs

add this post to your testimonial section ;)

Hooper

well for the last 2 week period (and we're not talking about a few clicks here folks) the conversions for my favorite 3 are:

popupblocker - 1:83
secure favorites - 1:109
windows messenger killer - 1:128

the rest are all close, but i'll let you figure them out yourself :D

two more products coming in the next couple weeks, one that NOBODY will be able to copy, and one that you'll want to use yourself.

this is the future folks, get on teh wagon while the gettin is good.

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Number1Thumb

got my wagon rollin :see sig

r0oster

Un-fucking-believable

You're just as bad as Atherton.

http://www.wmkiller.com

Download software for $29.95

T & C hidden right down the bottom (that no one's going to read) converts this one time sale into a monthly membership for $24.95 and adds $4.95 for shipping a CD they didn't ask for.

So - what does the customer receive each month?

funkmaster

... here we go again.

Hooper

i hardly think that selling software titles where the customer receives a physical copy of a legitimate product puts me on par with a scum bag ripping off poor surfers by screaming "free", not providing the product promised and nailing them for 199 (at least) each.

our customer satisfaction level is huge. we've been doing this for almost 8 months now making sure we have it all i place, we have $40k in physical inventory of disks and boxes, a toll free support line, and a very honest billing process.

dont playa hate.

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stocktrader23

don't sugar coat. Exactly how do you measure customer satisfaction? Why don't you send em all an email and ask them if they knew beforehand if they were going to be paying monthly? Better yet, ask them if they even noticed the charges coming through every month. Or hey, how about putting the terms somewhere on the page that is going to get read and making the down button scroll down instead of skipping over the recurring charge part?

I could care less how you bill your customers but quit trying to tell WEBMASTERS that you weren't trying to hide your terms. Good grief man.

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"I try to make a habit of bouncing my eyes up to the face of a beautiful woman, and often repeat “not mine” in my head or even verbally. She’s not mine. God has her set aside. She’s not mine. She’s His little girl, and she needs me to fight for her by keeping my eyes where they should be."

mrthumbs

agree

chodadog

Why do customers get a recurring bill? Seems.. silly..

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r0oster

Compared to adult - Reasonably.

Compared to mainstream - Certainly not.

stocktrader23

Why were you banned anyhow?

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"I try to make a habit of bouncing my eyes up to the face of a beautiful woman, and often repeat “not mine” in my head or even verbally. She’s not mine. God has her set aside. She’s not mine. She’s His little girl, and she needs me to fight for her by keeping my eyes where they should be."

r0oster

I'm not rooster.

After reading his dozens of racist posts, I got annoyed and decided to become the "anti rooster".

Didn't last. ;)

mrthumbs

pretty shady.. specially when users dont expect to be rebilled
for a software purchase..

r0oster

Look, I don't really give a fuck.

Such billing practices are rampant in adult.

You're basically taking adult billing and moving it into mainstream.

Not clever.

Oracle Porn

I signedup by my account is not activated.

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Number1Thumb

ya the recurring is bogus, good luck though

Hooper

Our t&c are very clearly disclosed.

Our software is top notch, our billing practices are straight forward, and bottom line is that there are things involved in the billing process that none of you will ever even catch onto that make this a solid method of making the most of a customer.

Regarding customer satisfation, good question: How do we measure customer satisfaction? with metrics, like # of support requests per sale, # of refunds per sale, #of chargebacks per sale. According to those numbers we are doing very well.

Now go sell some software. You'll be suprised how much easier it is to sell than porn

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Hooper

you receive an email. you have to click the link in the email to activate your account. hit me up directly if you dont receive the email.

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Spunky

Intresting concept

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Hooper

rhino, i've heard good things about your program, but no need to come step on my toes just because you feel threatened.

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Oracle Porn

o ok got it after a couple of minutes...

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quiet

i've been selling a little bit of software on the side, i'll definitely take a look at what you're offering...

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Number1Thumb

no Im just reading termas and still wondering whats the recurring all about? Sorry but we update the software and send emails to the prevous customers welcoming them to download the upgrades, no recurring at all. Im reading the T&C and trying to find out the advantage of this Idownload club?
Oh and not threatened as most of the affiliates are mainstream guys. But we have a few adult affiliates and the software will be in some very large program owners members area. Sorry no disespect meant

r0oster

You do a clever job of offering jFuse. It's especially nice with the free trial.

How's that working out?

49thParallel

Hopper....be sure to let us know when you introduce the latest version of snake-oil.

Damn, if Bush ever does find his weapons of mass destruction, I will be the first to recommend that they be tested on the lyin' and cheatin' "businessmen" (used loosely) that feel that they have to pull one over on the consumer to make a buck.

So, why exactly does the billing for your software recur monthly?

Hooper

the sotm club is advantageous to the consumer becuause they receive titles at great discounts over the online prices, and they also receive a great discount over the prices of those same titles in retail stores like compusa, best buy, microcenter, office depot etc..

thats right, you'll be seeing these titles in your local retail stores very soon.

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funkmaster

... don't be so fucking stupid, you can answer that question by yourself.

I think I should put our pills on reccuring and we could pay webmasters $200 per average sale/join. so far I have to leave it at $72, hope this is ok with you ??

mrthumbs

lol

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JimmySlits

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...pagenu mber=3


Ahhhh the irony of life.....

r0oster

What's confusing is that when a customer joins a club or agrees to recurring billing, they understand EXACTLY what they're receiving.

If I signed up with you, even after reading the T & C I still don't know what to expect at month 2, month 3 ...etc.

And - US customers get a CD each month. Right?

What do international customers get - an email with a download link?

What if the email bounces - do they keep getting billed?

These questions need to be answered.

49thParallel

It may be advantageous...but only if the customer is willingly joining your little SOTM club. If it is such a great bargain...seems like a strange place to advertise the benefits...hidden in your T & C;s.
Slice and dice it how you want...in my neighborhood we call your sales tactics sleazy and a scam.

49thParallel

And Funkmaster, I am anxiously awaiting the FDA clinical studies that show that your little pills do anything more then make your wallet grow in size.

Your parents must be proud of their little snake-oil saleman.

xxxdesign-net

The question is not why... he can charge per month if wanted.. The question is why the Fuck its not mentioned at the top of the page that there's a $24.95 recurring fee.... (which is hidden in Term & conditions text... which "used" to be legal formalities that nobody reads...)

THe web is a great place tp try new scam... I mean... is there an internet police? Will the media expose you make a story on your scam... no... The question is how long will it last... The Paris Hilton site seemed to have made good money with that....

Alienating and scaring even more internet customers...

funkmaster

... I am the best example, my cock was less than 2" a couple of month ago, today my balls have grown to a size, big enough to take on any cocksucker here.

... and just to let you know, I come from a very wealthy background, my parents have been very proud of me since day one.

Hooper

k, you can call it what you want.

i'll call it profitable with full and clear disclosure. the sotm club is the first thing listed on the t&c and the customers have to manually agree to the t&c.

so if somebody checks the "i agree" box but havent even read the first few lines of the t&c then they deserve what they get.

but the truth is that most people are like you, they arent fools, they read the t&c and they call up and cancel within the first few days.

either way, sign up, promote the products, make great money, stop whining

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49thParallel

Hopper...No thanks...I think you missed the part where I called your business tactics sleazy.

And Funkmaster...oh to hell with it...you wouldn't understand...

r0oster

Well?

BlackCrayon

yeah it looks good aside from the recurring charge. sure its a good way to make money but that software is not worth paying 25 bucks a month for.

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Hooper

i'm not going to go into the details of our customer policies, but yes, usa customers receive a physical disk every month.

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funkmaster

... what wouldn't I understand, my balls are bigger than yours, my purse is ready to explode, my family is fucking educated and extremely wealthy. go and read a book.
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49thParallel

I wouldn't walk into a strangers house and steal from their wallet... And that's all you are doing..with the internet as your front. Any way you cut it, you're still a weazily little crook. And don't worry funkmaster...that includes you as well.

49thParallel

And here's the short version of the "customer policies".

"SCAM"

lEricPl

The things people will do for money.

It's fucking sickening.