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50 Time Travellers

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blackmonsters

If you could travel in time then you would travel to the location of Earth at that time so the increments aren't needed anyway.
You are not thinking.


Don't give up your porn job for time travel.

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StuartD

Uhmm... have you ever checked into just how very rarely the Earth comes back to the exact same point in space as it was once before??

Want a hint??

THE SUN IS MOVING TOO!!!

The entire universe is in constant motion... the Earth going around the sun doesn't mean that when the Earth comes full circle that it'll be in the exact same spot... it won't be.. cause the sun won't even be either.

It's all moving!!! NEVER EVER in the history of the galaxy passed or future will the Earth be in the same point as it is at this very moment.

Who's the one who shouldn't give up the day job?

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arial

I'd go back and buy every good domain name there is!

Ironhorse

I would become his college buddy and make sure he stays a druggie

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tootie

I'd go back to 1991 and call my boyfriend on time. He was shot and killed that night and if I'd called him 30 minutes earlier, when I was supposed to, he would have been on the phone with me and he'd probably be alive today. (True story.)

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blackmonsters

Oh, and not being able to determine where the Earth is going to be at a particular time is why the astronauts that went to the moon could not locate Earth on their way back and crashed into the sun.

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NoCarrier

Hahahah you got owned man.. If go go back in time, you will know the exact position of the earth because it's propably calculated somewhere in a database ;)


Example : I want to go back in 1991, I'll know where the earth is located because it's already been done


Your theory does not apply in the future. But in the past, blackmonsters is right

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arial

Nah I take mine back, I'd go back and find out who really killed JFK.

blackmonsters

We're all full of shit!!

Every single one of us would go back to the OJ murder and see it all happen just to prove our side.

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Ironhorse

Of course you don't really know this for a fact.

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Paul

Thats actually a good one

bhutocracy

ahhahah you know I was thinking THE EXACT SAME THING last week, while I was watching back to the future 3 on tv. It kinda popped in my head that the delorean wouldn't meet up with the tracks as the earth was spinning as well as orbiting around the sun

necoeds

my thoughts exactly

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bhutocracy

no it's not, scientists aren't actually recording every last detail about the earth's position somewhere in a database, there are no measurements fine enough to calculate it. You guys aren't thinking in the right terms, it's as though you think somewhere a scientist is writing "x=35, y =78, z=134, spin equals 24" and thats enough to go back to time on lol.
Sure we're taking some measurements.. but in relation to what? the sun? the WHOLE SOLAR SYSTEM IS MOVING! the earth changes shape..
sure you'll know where abouts it is and ROUGHLY where abouts you'd come out at but not fine enough to not end up in a wall or a mountain. think of it like drawing two perfectly parallel lines on a piece of a4 paper.. sure they look absolutely perfect, but now extend those lines by 1000 miles and you'll see that at the end they're several football fields apart.. those are the sorts of measurements you're dealing with only several more DIMENSIONS to worry about.
We can't even get stuff to land on mars properly! or we calculate stuff in inches and centimeteres and things blow up.
The only way it could be done is by trial and error, looking for old news articles of feet suddenly appering sticking out of national monuments and then sending someone back in time to stop yourself from doing the experiment until you get it right..

it won't happen anyways until sentient super computers are built and enslave the human race.

bhutocracy

the earth spins at 464 metres a second.. so even a split second's difference can put you into the next suburb! and the process better take less than a millionth of a nanosecond otherwise there will be a trail of blood and organs for a couple of metres as your body gets transmitted and the parts that arrived a nanosecond earlier are moving with the earth as opposed to the parts arriving a nanosecond later at the original xyz/time co'ords
now factor in slight changes in the earth's shape not forgetting that a metre or two metres at this level is important, changes in the solarsystem, changes in our ability to measure time over several years, slight changes in earth's spinning speed because ALTHOUGH EVERY THING IS IN CONSTANT MOTION it's NOT IN CONTINUOUSLY MATHEMATICALLY PREDICTABLE MOTION.

and there you have it.. pretty fucking hard to do if not weighing on impossible, and when you have the ability to do it will time travel even be a priority or will killing the machines?

Donny

Go back and buy a winning ticket to Powerball Jackpots over $200 million.

Invest in Microsoft when it first went public.

Etc...

bhutocracy

we don't even HAVE THE TOOLS to take the measurements we need to make the calculations needed. But anyways.. It could be trial and errored extensively with a extremely small success rate... probably sub .01% although the odds would get better the more tials done and the more data recorded to rule out or confirm certain co'ords. and even then you're relying on the passage of time not disturbing certain documents that have to withstand 50 years of upheaval so the future people know it's successful, as well as everyone not dying of horrible strains of future viruses as soon as the future person breaths.

Donny

Shit. Now I see the "no money" rule.

In that case...

Tell Pete Rose not to bet on baseball.

NoCarrier

You just lost the last remaining credibility about your theory. Sorry you lose.

Next!

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NoCarrier

If you lived 120 years ago, you'be the kind of stuborn scientist saying that it's impossible for a plane to fly and that the possibilty was like 0,00000000000000001% after 10000000000000000 plane crashes

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Wasn't there already working planes 120 years ago?

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NoCarrier

At 10:30 A.M. on December 17, 1903, Orville Wright achieved the first piloted, sustained, controlled and powered flight. His brother, Wilbur Wright, stood by and timed the flight with a stopwatch. The first flight lasted twelve seconds and the aircraft flew 100 yards

http://aviation-history.com/early/wright.htm

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SoundMan

I would go to Roswell area 51 with all the best Digi Video-Cam stuff and file the space aliens and UFO's.

NoCarrier

Yeah! Nice! I'd like to know about that one as well!

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TurboTrucker

Time travel is possible. I'm traveling forward through time as I type.

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Chapter7

Not talking about manned flight. I know the egyptians had modelled airplanes that when built today with their design, actually fly.

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bhutocracy

it was a joke you tard, I'm sorry you can't comprehend fully the enormity of the undertaking and have to resort to bland "we didn't think we could fly either". I win.

Za Ha

I would stop 911.

bhutocracy

plus I never said is was 100% impossible just insanely hard compared to idiots thinking that the earth 50 years ago from right now is in the same spot "because we orbit the sun".
Also there was a large element of truth in my joking about sentient machines, time travel and this sort of breakthrough will only be made possible by using the sort of sentient super machines that will be made possible in several decades time.

bhutocracy

on the contrary, you'll already see how im thinking of ways it would be possible to work around the huge odds, it's just you can't fully appreciate the difficulties and prefer to exist in a trite "we can do anything" universe without comprehending the task.

bhutocracy

ok to remove my snides remarks to nocarrier : to know how it is possible you first have to know why it is impossible.

Chapter7

"Did anyone actually build a large version of this thing? Well, no one could have come this close to the real shape of flight without working on a larger scale. This little wooden model could hardly exist unless someone had worked with large, light models, or even with man-carrying versions."




http://www.uh.edu/engines/epi328.htm

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NoCarrier

LOL! Open your dictionary, and search for "sarcasm".

'nuff said.

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NoCarrier

Look.. I understand fully your theory about the whole point of origin and destination in time and space. Trust me, once they figure out a way to break that barrier, your problem will be a thing of the past. No pun intended.

In theory, time travel is possible. That doesn't mean our civilization will ever gain the technology to do it, but the problems you are talking about will be solved once they find a way to do it.

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bhutocracy

sarcasm is sometimes hard without a sarcasm smiley

NoCarrier

Oh really? I didn't know we had one on GFY!?

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bhutocracy

I already stated the problem is only one of degrees of difficulty and lack of knowledge, not theorectical impossibility. It' not a "theory" it's just one of the reasons why it's not easy.
I also suggested how to get around it. And how the initial low success rate would get higher as more data was collated.
And wasn't even operating on a simple "the time machine" time travel ability others were using I was thinking in terms of plotting destination co'ords that weren't just "this spot here, 50 years ago".

maxjohan

http://freespace.virgin.net/steve.preston/time1.html

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NoCarrier

Thanks, but like I mentionned many times in this thread, it was about a "what if" scenario. Not about theories and problems of time travel possibility.

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fuelcell

that's just plain moronic...you are presuming that space and time are separate or that time is even a thing at all...it's not

time is a concept used to describe our own perceptions of progress....and thus you have people conceiving of time as a river, one that you could possibly travel "backwards" on or jump forward

trust me, there is only now, it is a constantly changing now but past and future are strictly human concepts -- until you can prove me wrong

if you didn't have memory you wouldn't even be aware of a past and it wouldn't matter - you'd only be aware of the constant now...kinda like a dog

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StuartD

Uhmm... ok, the whole tomorrow doesn't exist thing... that can be argued until... well, tomorrow.

I agree, it doesn't exist, the past doesn't exist... the future... what ever. But just because humans gave names to them, doesn't mean that it didn't happen or won't happen.

Time is happening.. time is mother nature's way of keeping everything from happening at once.

In some form or another... time has existed, and will exist for ever... to say that it's a human concept is kind of an egotistical way of thinking. We mean nothing to the grand order of things. To think we could come up with something like a past or future is kinda overstating our capabilities.

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corvette

this is the most intelligent thread i have read on this board

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pr0

I'd go back & kill every bastard that:

Wrote a "hate crime" into law
Made the interstate speed limit "55"
Ever started a war
Killed an innocent person
Killed a Native American
Started a relegion
Started a cult
Instilled the fear of god in man
Imprisoned a man for his/her political beliefs
Dumped nuclear waste into the ocean
Killed a whale
Killed a Dolphin (not the fish)
Beat up a retarded person
Knocked over or tripped a blind person
Let women into professional golf
Let women into professional basketball
Let women into professional tennis
Brought African American slaves to America
Brought Mexican Slaves to America
Brought Chinese Slaves to America


Then i'd fuck the following people in the ass years prior to their fame:

Marylyn Monroe
Susan B. Anthony
Mrs. Jack F. Kennedy (And all their daughters)
Mrs. George Bush Sr. (And all their daughters)
Mrs. George Bush Jr. (And all their daughters)
Billy Jean King (That dyke tennis player)

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SoundMan

Here read this post from this guy that says he is from the
41ST Century.


BB BORIS 41 Century man


Will keep ya busy for hours .

chodadog

I think it was Robin Williams that said:

"I would buy some of his paintings"

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Rictor

I can dig it.

phogirl69

I would go to the time of my conception and be born into a family with a lot of wealth and prestige. Or I would want to be born into someone who was going to be rich and famous, preferably a pop singer/star. I'm getting too old, so doesn't look like it's going to happen in my lifetime. Or at least born into a rich family and be a socialite without ever having to work in my life ever. It seems like money makes all problems go away, if I was rich I could buy Manolo Blahnik shoes, Louis Vuitton purses, expensive clothes, get everything that I dislike about my body fixed and be 1,000 times happier. It seems like all of my problems I have are things I want that only money can buy and things about my body I want to fix that require money, but unfortunately I don't have enough of it. If I had millions I could be anyone I want and look any way I want. Celebs look so good because they spend shitloads of money on veneers, personal trainers, stylist, thousand dollar makeup artists... etc.. If I was a millioaire my life would be perfect, My problems all revolve around money, or lack thereof.


Or at least go back in time so that I would obtain the genes to be a little bit taller with more curves, and be more mixed looking.

Sorry but I don't want to make monumental changes and change history or anything, I don't have time to worry about other people, I got my own problems!

MegaPussy

The only tangible, and scientifically possible method of time travel is to create a wormhole in space. However that means you can only go back in time as far as the point where you started the wormhole. So if we created one tomorrow, we could theoretically travel back to that point, but no further. However, there may be other cosmic entities that are the equivalent of wormholes, who knows.

Philadelphia fans could relive the Monday press conferences ad nauseum!

- Titus

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bhutocracy

100 time travellers not as cool as michael j fox.